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Bad Guy Ripped off by Lisa Apramian in San Diego

Final reply...Rob et all, he/you did NOT get a refund for any other reason except that you behaved very very badly and you do not deserve this beautiful innocent snake. I told you it was an unfortunate DELAY. That was all. I asked you to stop assuming the worst, stop panicking and to just trust me and let the next shed cycle resolve. I was not going to ship him until his next shed cycle resolved since you said a bad shed would make a snake blind for life!!!! Well, his new shed is about to resolve and he will go to a kind person who does not expect me to ship a live animal on a Thursday. I would have loved a chance for any authority to contact me so I could have discussed my perfect innocence. You would have lost Rob, as there was NO fraud, NO rip off. Just an unfortunate delay that some people could have handled, just not Rob. I was not threatened by your efforts to lynch me, nor afraid of any repercussions, nor guilty of anything. And I am VERY VERY proud of my integrity and animal ethics. I simply will not be bullied, nor will I rush a snake. The title of this forum was 100% bogus and filled mostly with clueless people who try to trump up their egos as if they are some superior court judge and jury. YOU CANNOT be a jury unless you truly know both sides and this was not the case here. Most were not interested in anything but bashing me. Proven by a few who tried to share positive sales or who actually have seen my collection. So it actually showed more about the people judging and the hysteria they love to keep stirring up. That is one of the tragedies of human civilization; perpetuating hate and creating drama and blowing it up to make things worse. They invented a cause. If you insist on only wearing one negative set of glasses to view a phenomenon then all you can see is negative and all you can do is more negativity: perpetuating hate, fear and aggression. Therefore, I now dismiss and disintegrate all of your untrue words, hate, ignorance and cancel your words. I reinstate love, forgiveness and compassion and move on to my love for animals and a life focused on integrity, exchanges with mindful humans and continual focus on cultivating consciousness.
 
spiralawakening said:
Therefore, I now dismiss and disintegrate all of your untrue words, hate, ignorance and cancel your words.
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Uhhhh, not how it works.....unless you're a wizard. Which you may very well believe yourself to be, based on the rants you've gone on.

I reinstate love, forgiveness and compassion and move on to my love for animals and a life focused on integrity, exchanges with mindful humans and continual focus on cultivating consciousness.
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Don't forget your love of inmates as well.
 
spiralawakening said:
Final reply...Rob et all, he/you did NOT get a refund for any other reason except that you behaved very very badly and you do not deserve this beautiful innocent snake.

Right. I think he got a refund because you were outed.


. . . . my perfect innocence.

LOL! Some of the most dangerous people I've ever met are those who are convinced that they don't make mistakes, and are never wrong.


You would have lost Rob, as there was NO fraud, NO rip off.

There was attempted fraud, and attempted rip off. It took a 10-page thread, exposing your lies and inconsistencies to persuade you to refund his money. The only thing Robert lost was that time spent dealing with you.


And I am VERY VERY proud of my integrity . . .

Yeah, that's why your professional license was surrendered for inappropriate conduct.


The title of this forum was 100% bogus and filled mostly with clueless people who try to trump up their egos as if they are some superior court judge and jury. YOU CANNOT be a jury unless you truly know both sides and this was not the case here.

Well, I truly know both sides of dealing with you, and have all the documentation to back it up. And your texts calling me "dear" (twice) in such a condescending manner was nauseating. Do you scold all of your customers, as if you're speaking to a child?

Therefore, I now dismiss and disintegrate all of your untrue words, hate, ignorance and cancel your words. I reinstate love, forgiveness and compassion and move on to my love for animals and a life focused on integrity, exchanges with mindful humans and continual focus on cultivating consciousness.

Apparently, the University of Daffodils & Unicorns doesn't teach business ethics, or manners.
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Once again, buyer beware!
 
And everyone on the BOI collectively googled "borderline personality disorder." No really you should, I think you'd find it enlightening.
 
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What a bunch of baloney. You've spent most of your posts having tantrums and criticizing. As far as I'm concerned the lack of proof about 'multiple vets' means to me that you lied about your claim, and the lying seemed to come easily to you.

Not only do I hope that anyone from the reptile community think carefully before buying from you, I'm hoping this thread will help others decide, who may be thinking of involving themselves in your other enterprises, which in my opinion are mere money traps set by someone who has no real interest in 'love, forgiveness and compassion'.
 
A few more details relative to your experience with Lisa would be helpful, Michael.

Seeing as she has announced she is done with this thread and we are all clueless and simply here to perpetuate our hate and ignorance (yes, she is that educated and enlightened, but cannot break up one very long run-on sentence into at least a couple of paragraphs, lol) and she has now dismissed, disintegrated and cancelled all words, then further insight from you would be helpful and might save future buyers some unnecessary grief.

The more people who know the truth about dealing with her, the better, Michael.

Kathy pretty much summed it up in her last post. Nicely done, Kathy. LOL, University of Unicorns and Daffodils ... you forgot rainbows and puppy dogs.

Oh, and Ms. PhD ... the term is "et al", not "et all".
 
Character example

So this is just another testament to her horrible attitude, here is a message thread correspondence between us. I messaged her in the morning along with a few other messages I sent that day and this was her reply. Keep in mind I had sent a few messages that morning and didn't recall which animal She was responding which wasy fault but to She gave me about 5 minutes to reply to her message before she blocked me. Notice the time stamps..
 

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I asked you to stop assuming the worst, stop panicking and to just trust me and let the next shed cycle resolve. I was not going to ship him until his next shed cycle resolved since you said a bad shed would make a snake blind for life!!!! Well, his new shed is about to resolve and he will go to a kind person who does not expect me to ship a live animal on a Thursday.
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Three months time is a bogus time frame for a snake to complete a shed, also it is okay to ship a snake while it is in shed. A "bad shed" will NOT blind a snake for life. I've rehabbed a few very neglected (multiply stuck sheds with horrid looking eyes) on a few snakes and I am happy to say not one of them in this condition was left blind. If this "truth of yours" was actually true, people would be talking A LOT about blind snakes.
 
Maybe she doesn't want to deal with locals because she possibly doesn't even have the snakes she says she has, or those she produced? Over all I find that odd but it doesn't surprise me since she wasn't going to repay the guy above and said so herself until BOI came to light.
 
So glad that this worked out for everyone. The fact that the seller scolds the customer for requesting a refund after literal MONTHS of waiting with no response and wouldnt post conversations about informing the customer about anything is just horrendous. I've gotten better service from teenagers
 
Lisa, I rarely post on the BOI, although I read it regularly. You inspire me to post. Your mystical "I'm the victim, and I'm the goddess of snakes" is crap. YOU messed up. You left your customer hanging without communication or a plan for 3 months. It doesn't matter if you didn't "intend" to rip him off, and it doesn't matter if you have the cleanest snake colony on the planet, you messed up and you are trying to avoid taking any responsibility for your actions.
The more you come on here and cry victim and how innocent and pure you are, instead of admitting that you were in the wrong, and apologize and make it right, the more shady you look. I truly hope that anyone considering giving you money in any one of your various endeavors finds this thread and runs the other way.
Taking responsibility when we mess up is the right thing to do. You are not a victim here.
 
Really, I urge everyone curious and shocked by this behavior to google borderline personality disorder. Seeing some classic indicators here and it explains a lot. They are ALWAYS the victim.
 
lizardsister2 said:
Really, I urge everyone curious and shocked by this behavior to google borderline personality disorder. Seeing some classic indicators here and it explains a lot. They are ALWAYS the victim.
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I was thinking narcissistic personality disorder, or borderline myself. Her behavior and responses seemed really blown out of proportion, given the reasonable questions being asked. Or, maybe she's just an a*****e in general.

Robert, you were supposed to have funds released to you today. Did the refund go through? Again, I'm sorry that I didn't say anything earlier; maybe you wouldn't have attempted a purchase from her.

Kathy
 
Insomniac101 said:
Lisa, when you read this, how about sending Robert's money back?! And I wouldn't refuse payment of $28 either.

You had to be sure I knew you were a "professional", a psychologist. How about acting like one, and return the money?

Kathy
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You mean Psy-chologist lol that part threw up red flags for me.
 
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