>----- Original Message -----
>From: <
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>To: <
[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:08 AM
>Subject: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>
>
> > Interested in tradin all 3 pair for a gas powered rc monster
>truck($500.00 value)or a 1.1 ghz pc?let me know either way
> > Pat
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
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> >
> > Sent 07:08 AM, Jan 06th, 2003 from I.P. Address 24.49.193.179
> >
MY REPLY
>From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
>To: <
[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:41:21 -0500
>
>Hi, sorry but I only have 2 males and 1 female left that were posted.
>I have 2 females that are small I would be willing to trade the 5 for the
>monster truck
>Let me know
>Jim
His reply
> > >From: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
> > >To: <
[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:37 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > > How small are the other 2 females?what size crickets are they
>eating.I
> > >am
> > > > very interested and look forward to ur next e-mail
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Pat
MY Reply
> >From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
> > >To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
> > >Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
> > >Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:40:13 -0500
> > >
> > >They are about 1 inch body we are feeding them a 1/8 to 3/16 of a
>inch
> > >the wife says that she does not like the idea of giving them out
>because
> > >she would hate for you to be unhappy with them .
> > > we are waiting for the next batch of eggs to hatch and if you have
>not
> > >found any veileds before then I would then work with you.
> > >Jim
HIs Reply
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>To: <
[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:46 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> > The si
> >
> >
THEN
>From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
>To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:09:59 -0500
>
>your message did not come in
>Jim
THEN
>From: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>To: <
[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:09 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>
>
> > Jim,
> > the size is no problem i have raised baby veilds before.I am game if you
> > are.either way if i was not happy i would just ship them back
>anyways.let
> > me know.
> > Pat
THEN
>From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
>To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 20:53:17 -0500
>
>Well tell me about the car
>Jim
THEN
>From: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>To: <
[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>
>
> >
> > Its a 4 wheel drive monster truck.It has electric start.I high torque
> > steering servo and a k&m air filter.It is in running condition with less
> > than a gallon of fuel run through it..It has a 2 speed auto transmission
> > with reverse on the controll.It goes about 35 mph .when you get it
>charge
> > the starter and off you go.requires 12 aa batteries(i use dollar store
> > batteries but recomend rechargeables.Its definently worth $300.00 but i
> > dont mind talkin a bit of a loss(paid over 500.00 new)i understand it
>being
> > used its not worth what I paid but to me its worth 5 veilds.How big are
>the
> > larger ones?Thats about it on the truck
THEN
>From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
>To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 22:28:00 -0500
>
>It seems that you are wanting the veileds and I think what you are asking
>in trade is not that fare and I try to be a fare person so I will make a
>better offer The 2.1 veileds are 3 to 4 weeks old and are about 1.5 inches
>and the other 2 females are the smaller ones I would be willing to give you
>the 5 veileds now shipped. with also the offer to make it worth your while
>because of the size I would give you 3 more veileds after the next batch
>hatches if you would pay the shipping on the next hatch. Also I do not ship
>first on trades
>If that is good for you you can ship the truck to
>Jim Scharphorn
>12390 136th Ave.
>Grand Haven Mi 49417
>after I recieve it I will then ship the veileds over night with airborne
>express
>And does the truck come with everything I need to make it run ( minus the
>gas and baterries for the controler ? And is there extra glow plugs with
>it ? and what size motor does it have ?)
>Jim
THEN
Jim,
As far as your questions,it has a .15 motor(i bought it then less than a
week l8r they came out with the .25)It comes with 2 bodies,a couple tanks of
fuel,a few tools you will need,the charger,2 or 3 battery packs.Now normally
if i were trading herp for herp I would ship first.But due to the expense of
the item,the shipping,and the fact that i know my truck will arrive Alive,I
would ask that you ship first.If you did that for me you could leave out
the hatchlings and send me just the 5 we originaly talked about.I have good
feedback on my ebay name.I also have a person I just traded for some
jacksons who could give you a good reference.My only worry is about me
sending truck and then airborne screwin up or missing me and the little ones
being outside in the cold(they dont handle cold as well as my jacksons.)Let
me know and ihope i have not offended you in any way.Like I said if it was
herp for herp we would both take the same chance.But......well anyways Have
a good day and I hope to hear from you soon.My number is 315-269.2012 if you
have any questions(my cell is cheaper if you call me after 9pm est)
Pat
Then
> > >From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
> > >To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
> > >Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
> > >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:44:00 -0500
> > >
> > >Yes that is fine send me your address for shipping and would you like
>to
> > >recieve them friday or tuesday ?
> > >Jim
THEN
Jim,
Friday would be good.My address is
Patrick Renwick
1656 1/2 elm st
Utica NY,13501
Thanks Jim Look forward to seeing them
Pat
Then
Jim,
Just wanted to make sure we are on for friday.Send tracking number Airborne
is around the corner fromme so in case we have a problem i can remedy it on
my end.Also the truckis so heavy i will be sending it as cheaply as
possible(probably still 30.00 or more)Thanks agian and when those babies
hatch let me know i know most the pet shop owners on 1st name basis and may
be able to move a 10 lot or 2 for u.Thanks agian and I am excitedly awaiting
those veilds
Pat
THEN
Jim
Good thing we went for friday cause starting sat night its gonna get colder
here.(teens)We have good temps now(lower 40's)I will ship truck out STAT
after the package arrives.Once agian thanks for everything.
Pat
THEN
>From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
> > > > >To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
> > > > >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:50:15 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >I shipped today, tracking # is 7433975275 with airborne
> > > > >please do not send the gas with the truck I think that would be
> > >illegal.
> > > > >Jim
THEN
>----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
> > >To: <
[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:17 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
> > >
> > >
> > > > I wil be shiping ground so i believe I gan send you a bit.If I cant
>do
> > >you
> > > > have a hoby shop in ur area.I use 15 or 20 % nitro in her but I
>would
> > >use
> > >15
> > > > on a reguler basis unles you race in a league.Hope you have as much
>fun
> > >with
> > > > her as i did.
I Think this is the last I herd from him
I emialed him on friday to find out what the truck name was and the name of the engine I never herd from him
I e-mailed him sat. twice and called once, then again sunday e-mailed twice and called and left a message and told him I was going to post here and then then tried again monday then as soon as I posted here he contacted me and this is his e-mails abck to me
Hello Jim,
Well it seams that now that my road runner is up and runnin you have
slandered my name befor my 48 hour garunteee you posted on ur web site has
even run out.I have called my lawyer and he is checking into if I have any
right to sue you for slander.Also i will be sending ur chams back(hope a 12
hour heat pack works(i ship usps).You never even gave me a chance to get
back to you.I was gonna ship in am due to the fact I had the truck checked
out today to make sure it was ok(didnt run for 2 months so wanted to fire it
up and it needed a part so i bought you one)but instead i get nasty e-mails
and my name posted on a forum(i contacted them with the legality's of
hosting ur thread)I will also be posting shipping info and my side of the
story on that thread.I also will call the irs and see if you have a licience
to run your herp business and also see if they audit you this year.Let me
know what you want to do about this maybe we can resolve this in a fashion
with some cuth.
Pat
THEN
want the truck or ur herps?
THEN
>From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
>To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 06:17:10 -0500
>
>Well look who has jumped on the band wagon !
>send the freaking truck you made a deal and your 48 hours was up sunday by
>noon or so when you recieved the chams Do not give me any stories ! you had
>plenty of time to contact me
>a 12 hour heat pack will not work and the chams will end up dead
>if you send me the truck and finish your deal I will post back on the forum
>that you did so
>you had all kinds of chances to contact me you chose not to
>you also said you would send it out on saturday !!
>so far you have lied
>Just feel lucky that I have not contacted king snake yet or ebay at least
>by
>making this right you will not be banned from those sites.
>well what are you going to do ?
>Thank you,
>Jim Scharphorn
>
www.coolcrittersbylj.com
THEN
As for kingsnake i have no account so I cant be banned.I called ebay and
they said you can do nothing to me as far as their conserned.I will ship
the chams back usps as soon as the cold snap breaks.(will warm up by
friday.As far as the law suit I have turned you into the better business
bearue.Since you are a business I will be sueing you in ny you will have to
send a lawyer or come yourself.You posting my number on the web without my
express written permission is agianst the law in your state and mine so I
hope you are ready.Also the IRS will be notified wether you pay taxes or not
and airborn will be notified you are shipping lizards wich they say is
agianst their shipping terms and if you have a account it will be
suspended.It will take a few weeks to sopena you so I look forward to
hearing from you.Unlike you fat little bald man I have a job and such I dont
live on the pc like you not hearing from me for 2 or 3 days is no reason to
panic and slander me.I will be sending the chams back since in your e-mail
we discussed me not liking them and me having the option of return as we
agreed you can have them.
Pat
THEN
nothing was ever said about saturday just i would ship stat do a retraction
and i will ship truck no retraction and you lizards go back to you usps
overnight with a 12 hour heat pack never had a problem with usps.as witht
the temps only reaching 15 or so as a high i will wait till it warms up a
bit to send them.Unless you want lizard sicles
Pat
IGuess I was wrong on the stat?? I thought maybe he miss spelled and meant sat. sure looks like a sat, to me
He is e-mailing me as I am copying and pasteing this
>From: "coolcritters" <
[email protected]>
>To: "Patrick Renwick" <
[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Veileds 4 to 5 week old pairs
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:59:09 -0500
>
>Sorry Pat but send the truck or else ! you are not going to send the chams
>back ! your 48 hr guarentee is up as of sunday, you never said anything was
>wrong with them so your loss!and as far as sending them back please
>include
>the $32.00 it cost me to send the chams and I send with airborne and they
>know I send live reptiles Do you actually think I am that dumb ? and e-bay
>will be contacted and king snake so what you do not have a account I sure
>hope you never plan on getting one and I am sure no one will do business
>with you if you screw me, you had every oppertunity to contact me you
>chose not to and thought you could gewt away with this I will be contacting
>the police in your area if I do not recieve the truck by friday !!!!!!!!
>you
>can take that to the bank and if you send the chams back and they show up
>dead I will be contacting the humain services as well
>Give yourself a chance to prove your not ripping me off by sticking to the
>deal that is the only way your going to clear your name with the herp
>community !!!!
>Thank you,
I will send back the chams and thats that i will ship them out taday if you
want to wait thats fine.the police will only get you 5 dead reptiles back
cause all they will do is make me send back you herps or tell you its a
civil matter so i sugggest you let me send them back when the weather is
warmer.If i sent you the truck either way it will not get there till tues
cause i told you i ship by ground.Thats 6 days the package would cost 100.00
to overnight sorry man
Let me know asap i have all the e-mails so if
the cops are called they will make me send you back the chams since the
value is under 200.00 125.oo plus shipping is under 200.00 its a civil
matter and since you are out of state and unable to file a report your herps
will be back with you before they get the report i am sending them back as
in my right to return them.
Pat
I just emailed back to this and said to send the truck
I called my local law enforcement agency and they suggest if i want to avoid
you being able to sue me in small claims court i either send truck or
animals which ever one or the other.So do you want me to send them out when
its cold as hell,like in the single digits or do you want me to wait a
couple days till this breaks.If i dont here from you they go out
tomarrow.usps overnight with a 20 hour heat pack if i can find one if not a
12.your signature on the delivery will clear me of any of this so please
lets be adaults.If you want the truck please e-mail me in a more respectful
tone and we can see if this can be resolved nicely,p[olitly and
professionaly
Pat
there is probably a few e-mails missing from when I was trying to contact him there was so many to try and find if you want them let me know and I will post them as well.
