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Bad Guy Ritchie Luna aka HerpVenue

Will0W783 said:
This is insane...this thread is really immature, as everyone else has said. I do think Ritchie could have been more polite in the situation- maybe just not reply after being told he could not get a public picture...rather than post PMs pubicly. HOWEVER, I think that both Ritchie Lune and Zachery Curtis handled the issue poorly, and you are both on my do-not-buy-from-or-sell-to list because of your petty bickering back and forth. Both of you need to grow up.
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Absolutely Correct!

I hate to see the BOI used for the purposes of the two threads involved here! Neither one is productive or adds ANYTHING other than illustrating how the two people involved deal with other individuals.

I haven't seen two people :shootfoot so blatantly in a while.
 
Pish and tosh I say.

Ritchie is solidly in the good guy category. He always has been.

Here's the thing about PMs. Just because you send someone a Private Message does not in ANY way obligate them to keep it between the two of you. You seem to have missed this lesson while you were taking Shoot Myself in the Foot class.

If you want someone to keep something to themselves, ask before you commit internet suicide. You know, like you're doing here.

And you really should have just written it off and let it go.

You still could, well, I mean if you did that would be good, whether you can or not is sort of up to you, let it go.

You will NOT make yourself look better by keeping this argument alive. You will NOT make him look bad. In fact, if he never posts in this thread I wouldn't be surprised at all. HE knows when to walk away.

Learn from The Ferret. If you don't know who that is, do a search.

Kids these days....
 
Trying not to :deadhorse but really?? all i get from this thread and the previous one is that both of the Op's need to be put on ignore asap. what a mess , how old are we all here?
 
Wilomn said:
Pish and tosh I say.

Ritchie is solidly in the good guy category. He always has been.

Here's the thing about PMs. Just because you send someone a Private Message does not in ANY way obligate them to keep it between the two of you. You seem to have missed this lesson while you were taking Shoot Myself in the Foot class.

If you want someone to keep something to themselves, ask before you commit internet suicide. You know, like you're doing here.

And you really should have just written it off and let it go.

You still could, well, I mean if you did that would be good, whether you can or not is sort of up to you, let it go.

You will NOT make yourself look better by keeping this argument alive. You will NOT make him look bad. In fact, if he never posts in this thread I wouldn't be surprised at all. HE knows when to walk away.

Learn from The Ferret. If you don't know who that is, do a search.

Kids these days....
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Spoken ike a true friend ?? It was in poor taste to post hose on the OP's ADD
they were NOT posted on a BIO inquiry, and if Ritchie feels he needs pics in a certain way, then great !! But still was NOT right to put pms on add. He had nothing to go on at that time to warrent questionable behavior by the seller.
 
bullies&balls said:
Spoken ike a true friend ?? It was in poor taste to post hose on the OP's ADD
they were NOT posted on a BIO inquiry, and if Ritchie feels he needs pics in a certain way, then great !! But still was NOT right to put pms on add. He had nothing to go on at that time to warrent questionable behavior by the seller.
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You living in Ritchie's back pocket now, you know what he's thinking and doing so well then?

If Ritchie thought it was worthy, it was.

What you think in poor taste is not what anyone else must think is in poor taste. Your opinion is yours, the ops is his, Ritchie's is his but it also that of a few others.

And how can it not be right? You're seriously going to tell me that anything you get in a PM from anyone in the world you'd never divulge? BS boyo, BS.
I'm pretty sure that we each get to decide what's right and wrong for ourselves and while you may not agree in this instance, yours is merely an opinion, not law. Or so my opinion urges me to write.

I'll not be keeping any secrets until I know what they are. I suspect others here would agree with me on that. Just because you and the OP are ignorant of how promises are made and privacy kept does not make it wrong to post unasked for PMs. Pictures were requested, not more verbiage.
 
zach_24_90 said:
Watch out for this guy. If he posts on your ad dont try and PM him he will just post the PM on your ad and keep spamming your ad then eventually jsut post a BOI thread on you and KEEP bashing you for no reason calling you a liar and this and that and He will keep going and going and going until he has run your name into the ground all cause he is having a bad day or "his child is sick" or whatever other reason. he does it for no reason and just does it to see people with decent names trying to enjoy the hobby have a tough time selling their snakes. and dont try to contact him directly and have a talk man to man he hides behind the BOI and spamming. he will not contact you to have a real talk he will only fight with you on the BOI. to that i say grow up guy. be an adult. hope nobody ever has to do any business with this guy. have a nice day.
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Hello,
Today is a wonderful day. I got 100% on my Rules of Evidence Final and I got my first ever BOI bad guy thread. I am just elated. I am quite happy having this this type of bad guy thread as my one and ONLY.(as far as I know). Thank you.

Now I would like to address issues.

SPAM - don't know where it is. can't see it. the OP deleted it (how convenient) and before you all crucify me for "spam" ask the OP for definitions and proof.

LIAR- I don't see where I called the OP a liar. Perhaps he was mistaken. Or perhaps he "mis spoke"

Hiding- Hello everyone. Here I am

Posting BOI INQUIRY thread- GUILTY. I did an inquiry. I wanted to know who this guy was. I am shopping for an enchi. And now I might have to shop for a fire as well. Some questioned if I had alterior motives. I did not have any motives at all until he started asking me what my problem was. That is when I started thinking that perhaps something is not quite right with the OP. And here we are.

Acting like 5 year old - Guilty. I never claimed to be perfect. But I always try to work on it whenever I remember.

Thanks for the post. :)
 
I expect the OP will be posting a bad guy thread against me, next, Ritchie. :rofl: He didn't like me posting on his own thread, apparently. Even called me a liar and I purposely falsified emails and PMs.... :laugh: :laugh:
 
Ritchie is a good guy, and he referred me to this forum. I also gave me some great advice as well. He is a good guy, and honestly, He would not do anything to heart someones business for fun. I know him and he just speaks from his point of view. I understand where he comes from because he has been around the business for a long time!!!

Ritchie if you read this thank you buddy! You helped me out!
 
Wilomn said:
Pish and tosh I say.

And you really should have just written it off and let it go.

You still could, well, I mean if you did that would be good, whether you can or not is sort of up to you, let it go.

You will NOT make yourself look better by keeping this argument alive. You will NOT make him look bad. In fact, if he never posts in this thread I wouldn't be surprised at all. HE knows when to walk away.

Learn from The Ferret. If you don't know who that is, do a search.

Kids these days....
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Wilomn said:
You living in Ritchie's back pocket now, you know what he's thinking and doing so well then?

If Ritchie thought it was worthy, it was.

What you think in poor taste is not what anyone else must think is in poor taste. Your opinion is yours, the ops is his, Ritchie's is his but it also that of a few others.

I'm pretty sure that we each get to decide what's right and wrong for ourselves and while you may not agree in this instance, yours is merely an opinion, not law. Or so my opinion urges me to write.

I'll not be keeping any secrets until I know what they are. I suspect others here would agree with me on that. Just because you and the OP are ignorant of how promises are made and privacy kept does not make it wrong to post unasked for PMs. Pictures were requested, not more verbiage.
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Wes,
Sounds like you think you and Ritchie's words are law. My opinion urges me to write that your words are like a belly button, everyone has one! And they are not LAW, like your trying to make it out to be(Based off of your words and your down talking approach to your posts like you are right).

What does PM stand for again? Last time I checked they didn't change it PRIVATE message to PUBLIC message.
 
All we have online to judge one another is reputation and honesty. Word of mouth is very important. Once, just once that you are untruthful can destroy your credibility.
zach_24_90 said:
oh now webslave is getting involved cause they are all buddies to keep making me look like a joke... those werent my exact PMs and you know it now your editing stuff around to make me look even worse.. thanks... anyone who wants to know my side of the story instead of what the admin edit it to be feel free to contact me my number and email are in the first couple pages.
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That's all I needed to see to know you are untruthful. Nothing else matters now to me. Your original thread proving out one way or another is little consequence now knowing that you are liar. Good luck to you.
 
Coincidence

Did you know that there are at least seven (7) facilities providing mental health services in the Kingsland, Georgia area? This is not a petty personal swipe. It is a serious professional recommendation.

Life is far too short to spend it picking fights that one cannot, and does not really want, to win.
 
Dennis Hultman said:
All we have online to judge one another is reputation and honesty. Word of mouth is very important. Once, just once that you are untruthful can destroy your credibility.


That's all I needed to see to know you are untruthful. Nothing else matters now to me. Your original thread proving out one way or another is little consequence now knowing that you are liar. Good luck to you.
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Oh and that didn't include the fact that today you created a new user account with a different name. Wondering what you are going to do with that?
 
zach_24_90 said:
Watch out for this guy. If he posts on your ad dont try and PM him he will just post the PM on your ad and keep spamming your ad then eventually jsut post a BOI thread on you and KEEP bashing you for no reason calling you a liar and this and that and He will keep going and going and going until he has run your name into the ground all cause he is having a bad day or "his child is sick" or whatever other reason. he does it for no reason and just does it to see people with decent names trying to enjoy the hobby have a tough time selling their snakes. and dont try to contact him directly and have a talk man to man he hides behind the BOI and spamming. he will not contact you to have a real talk he will only fight with you on the BOI. to that i say grow up guy. be an adult. hope nobody ever has to do any business with this guy. have a nice day.
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First off I do not think it is cool for you to bring his kids into this they had nothing to do with you and him. Please watch the morals. That is disrespecting his family. This issue has to do with reptiles, not personal stabs.
 
Tropoddity said:
Second, How is everyone doing tonight?
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this is the BOI, not a discussion forum

I've known Ritchie for quite a while, he's a good guy in my book. I hope people can let this thread drop off the front page since it's basically a waste (needless retaliatory thread IMO).
 
WOW!! What a mess. Before I start, does anyone know of a good lawyer in case I get a lawsuit against me for talking about Zach? Anyways, I think Zach handled this situation poorly. He claimed that Ritchie was the one harassing him but Zach is the one that starts the bad guy thread while Ritchie only wanted to know something about Zach? Wow... I love that logic. I don't know either of them but I think Zach needs to be a man and apologize for everything that he has said to both Ritchie and Rich. Seriously man.... threatening people with lawsuits just because you are mad? Don't you think that is taking things a little too far and being very childish? How old are you? I am only 23 and I would never act that way. I don't even sell reptiles and I am not that disrespectful to people that have been in this business way longer than I have.

Instead of acting like this, you should try and learn from people that are older than you and gain as much knowledge from them as you can. If you would actually take the time and sit down with people and talk to them as adults instead of threatening them with claims that will never happen, you would make it much farther in this world.

Just my .02cents. What do I know though? I am still young and have many years to learn.
 
Are we still talking about this? I am curious as to why Zach called Webslave a liar, but when proof was posted he disappeared?
Webslave can ban you and as far as I can see has not, he's allowed you to say your side of the story, but honestly, I hate when people threaten with lawyers, I have people do it to me all day, I mute the phone and laugh at them. If you want to get a lawyer, do so, don't talk all this big game like you're a real bad ass. A lot of lawyers would take your case, and your money and then say oh well when you lost and then you're out a ton of money and look even stupider than before. Seriously, threatening a lawyer cause he was posting an inquiry about you and posted your own words? Rich is a good guy that I know. I don't personally know Ritchie, but from what I've read, maybe he could have done stuff a little differently, but a bad guy thread? Seriously?
 
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