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Bad Guy Robert Smithe Aka Serpentaria Scammer

Vithaxton said:
That proves that those are 100% your animals! I’ll tell everyone else on Facebook and show pics! Do you have any proof that your not Joseph Califoux? Many administrators kicked you out of various groups claiming that that is in fact who you were. That could set the record straight for them as well! Thanks! :)
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It doesn't prove that they are YOUR animals, just that you have them!
 
Serpentaria said:
"Rude and accusatory" describes the OP and her posts.
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So you react by insulting her and everyone? Making untrue claims about her? Very professional /Sarcasm.

In point of fact, I've addressed everything asked, even going so far as to make signs and post them with the animals.
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Childish and insulting signs. Also it took several people asking you multiple times over several days if you were Joseph before you replied.

Perhaps think about how you'd feel if you came here in good faith, truthfully representing animals you had for sale and within an instant, Vithaxton made the outlandish claims about you that she did about me. Then when you debunk those claims, she then makes yet a new set.
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I wouldn't act like you have. Which makes you look worse.

I've been nothing but attacked mercilessly by this Bithaxton, whom I don't know from a hole in the wall.

I suspect you'd feel the same.
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I wouldn't last out at everyone like you have. I would have stayed calm, professional, and let the truth come out without the insults and petty revenge posting like you have done. But that is just me.
 
Serpentaria said:
And no, I am not him. But from what I hear, Bob Clark and Justin Nichols screwed him over pretty bad.
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That's funny, your hearsay is very different from the rumors others have heard.

I'm having serious doubt as to your not being Joseph C. Your email to a member here has your last name spelled, Smith, while here it is spelled, Smithe. The Bob can be easily explained, but not the misspelling of your last name.

You were quick to address the snake issue, but not your name.

How about you post your DL/ID with all info blacked out except your name & picture.

You did not answer my question about from whom you obtained the snakes from.
 
This guy is a liar and a thief. I can back up what I say and I'll make a point to comment any and every time he comes out from under his rock. You'll have a difficult time suing me, I think. huh Robert?
 
Well then! Considering Bob Clark just showed up THE Bob Clark I totally rest my case. I mean it’s Bob Clark lol
 
Vithaxton said:
Well then! Considering Bob Clark just showed up THE Bob Clark I totally rest my case. I mean it’s Bob Clark lol
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Bob Clark has not provided proof.

Vithaxton said:
Unfortunately they would like to remain annanomous because they are tol scared to stand up to you and make any posts. Due to third party aqusations not being allowed here I can not use them as proof whatsoever. Yes I did jump the gun making this post ahead of when everything was ready.
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I do not know this Robert Smith but I think no one's reputation should be destroyed because of unfounded gossip. Yes, his posts here are rude and atrocious, but that is not proof. Accusing him of something just because you heard it somewhere is not ethical.

Please let's seem some proof backing up what you are saying.
 
Lucille said:
Bob Clark has not provided proof.


I do not know this Robert Smith but I think no one's reputation should be destroyed because of unfounded gossip. Yes, his posts here are rude and atrocious, but that is not proof. Accusing him of something just because you heard it somewhere is not ethical.

Please let's seem some proof backing up what you are saying.
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True! Let me contact the other 4 administrators who banned him as well!
 
Serpentaria said:
EXACTLY AND THANK YOU!!!
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Dude, I am not on your side, don't misread.

Vithaxton said:
Yes I did post that they weren’t your animals originally because a lot of people messaged me saying they had proof that they weren’t so I went ahead and contacted breeders and posted the post and waited to hear back for the proof. When there was none and the breeder finally contacted me back and confirmed they sold the animals to a Joseph Chalifoux. I updated the post saying they had produced them before you ever inquired about it so no I did not lie and fixed the post. Now administrators from many reptiles groups banned you and all your listings claiming that you were in fact Joseph Chalifoux long before I ever made any post. Which I have made screenshots of in this post as evidence. Let me be 100% clear with you. I was never here to attack you. The main reason I made the posts was that there were a lot of people that contacted me with proof that you are in fact Joseph Chalifoux and they have documentation. Unfortunately they would like to remain annanomous because they are tol scared to stand up to you and make any posts. Due to third party aqusations not being allowed here I can not use them as proof whatsoever.
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For the sake of your credibility and trustworthiness, it would be wise to wait for proof next time. I think you realize that now, but it bears mentioning. :)

Vithaxton said:
Yes I did jump the gun making this post ahead of when everything was ready but the reason for that is because in my first year of reptile breeding I was scammed over $4,000 and almost quit this amazing hobby. I never got that money back due to being so afraid of my scammer. I know exactly how that feels. So I have a 0 tolerance when it comes to any scammer and will always stand up to them or posts warnings. That being said I have provided evidence from one of the admins and I am withholding more evidence I will release once I can get with an admin on uploading pictures.
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Who was this scammer? Can you start a new thread detailing that experience?
 
start reading at the bottom. I sent him a snake, he didn't like it (said it was sick and had mites) I sent him a new snake, a label and a box to send the first one back. He kept both snakes and threatened to sue me of "emotional distress". He's a thief, a liar and a snowflake.


Property damage - more technically called Trover or Trespass to Chattel for knowingly sending sick animals and damaging my colony. And now you're swearing at me again, which I told you I'd consider harassment, and further harassment for trying to coerce me under threat into sending animals back after being told not to from PayPal. Negligence, IIED (Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress) and perhaps defamation depending if you defame me publicly.

On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:

> you're so full of shit. what will be the basis for your suit? I'm just trying to give your money back!
>
> On 2/9/2017 5:09 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>> And now I'm suing you.
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> You have provided no additional information. The file has said "awaiting response from buyer" for weeks. I will say this only once. Put the animals back in their boxes and send them back with the label I have provided you. I'll expect them to arrive here Tuesday morning. At that point Paypal will refund the money they are holding on your behalf. I will consider the animals to be stolen if I don't have them here Tuesday morning. There is no valid reason for continuing to delay and obstruct the process of giving your money back.
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>>> On 2/9/2017 4:49 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not going to tell you again. I've spoken to PayPal extensively. I'll be uploading all the additional information that they requested soon. They said I had ten days, and it was two days ago. Further, they have been communicating with me directly. Not that I should even entertain you at this point, but look at what I've attached. What say you now smart guy? So in point of fact you don't have "the whole file". Do not swear at me, and don't accuse me of lying. If you do either again, be advised that I'll consider it harassment. Are we clear? You can blow the situation off all you want but your knowingly sending me sick animals infected my colony. And sending sick animals is illegal. I tried to be reasonable with you but your tone and rhetoric has become increasingly defiant and inflammatory. I'm extremely close to contacting my attorney at this point. And I'll certainly be forwarding paypal your recent emails swearing at me and calling me a liar. I'd also caution you that should you publish any negative comments about me I'll consider it defamation.
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>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the entire Paypal file for this claim. you have lied to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/9/2017 4:13 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>>>>>> It's not, and don't ever talk to me like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's bullshit Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2017 3:43 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PayPal has instructed me not to. It's against the law to send sick animals, and they also said not to send them back because they were sent to me in that condition. The first one you sent me is still in deaths door even after a round of antibiotics. It has an intense case of scale rot too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've provided them all the info and they are making a further determination.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, I'm STILL dealing with the mites transmitted to my colony. How am I able to be compensated for that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please send the snakes back with the label I've provided so that Paypal can refund your payment to you. Monday would be best because the snowstorm in the northeast is disrupting the Fedex system right now. Bob
>>>>>>>>>
 
It's really great to have the opportunity to warn others about this guy! I'll happily recount this story every time I see his name mentioned. I lost some money but this guy has lost a lot more than money. I'll await notice of his lawsuit. What a joke. Come at me bro!
 
Bob could you please post the actual screen shots of the conversation? Also both sides are claiming PayPal info, please post screen shots. I think claims of sick snakes should be backed up.
 
Bob Clark said:
start reading at the bottom. I sent him a snake, he didn't like it (said it was sick and had mites) I sent him a new snake, a label and a box to send the first one back. He kept both snakes and threatened to sue me of "emotional distress". He's a thief, a liar and a snowflake.


Property damage - more technically called Trover or Trespass to Chattel for knowingly sending sick animals and damaging my colony. And now you're swearing at me again, which I told you I'd consider harassment, and further harassment for trying to coerce me under threat into sending animals back after being told not to from PayPal. Negligence, IIED (Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress) and perhaps defamation depending if you defame me publicly.

On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:

> you're so full of shit. what will be the basis for your suit? I'm just trying to give your money back!
>
> On 2/9/2017 5:09 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>> And now I'm suing you.
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You have provided no additional information. The file has said "awaiting response from buyer" for weeks. I will say this only once. Put the animals back in their boxes and send them back with the label I have provided you. I'll expect them to arrive here Tuesday morning. At that point Paypal will refund the money they are holding on your behalf. I will consider the animals to be stolen if I don't have them here Tuesday morning. There is no valid reason for continuing to delay and obstruct the process of giving your money back.
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2017 4:49 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not going to tell you again. I've spoken to PayPal extensively. I'll be uploading all the additional information that they requested soon. They said I had ten days, and it was two days ago. Further, they have been communicating with me directly. Not that I should even entertain you at this point, but look at what I've attached. What say you now smart guy? So in point of fact you don't have "the whole file". Do not swear at me, and don't accuse me of lying. If you do either again, be advised that I'll consider it harassment. Are we clear? You can blow the situation off all you want but your knowingly sending me sick animals infected my colony. And sending sick animals is illegal. I tried to be reasonable with you but your tone and rhetoric has become increasingly defiant and inflammatory. I'm extremely close to contacting my attorney at this point. And I'll certainly be forwarding paypal your recent emails swearing at me and calling me a liar. I'd also caution you that should you publish any negative comments about me I'll consider it defamation.
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>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the entire Paypal file for this claim. you have lied to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/9/2017 4:13 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>>>>>> It's not, and don't ever talk to me like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's bullshit Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2017 3:43 PM, Joseph Chalifoux wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PayPal has instructed me not to. It's against the law to send sick animals, and they also said not to send them back because they were sent to me in that condition. The first one you sent me is still in deaths door even after a round of antibiotics. It has an intense case of scale rot too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've provided them all the info and they are making a further determination.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, I'm STILL dealing with the mites transmitted to my colony. How am I able to be compensated for that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Bob Clark Inc. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please send the snakes back with the label I've provided so that Paypal can refund your payment to you. Monday would be best because the snowstorm in the northeast is disrupting the Fedex system right now. Bob
>>>>>>>>>
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There’s that word “Defamation” again! My anonymous source was right! He used the same word with Bob Clark. I’ve never known anyone in the reptile business to use that word. Technically with forensic linguistics you can literally prove this is Joseph Chalifoux just by that!
 
I believe there is a question about identity that needs to be resolved here.

Akiranar said:
Now, are you, or are you not Joseph Chalifoux? You seem to keep ignoring this question.
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Serpentaria said:
And no, I am not him.
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The solution is extremely simple to resolve this question, I believe.

Mr. Smithe, have any of my moderators contacted you about verifying the ID you are using on this site?
 
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