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I would like to state that before I went with Rodent pro I never once saw a parasite in my collection. Then a few months after I start to order from them I had lil worms floating in water dishes. I thought it was from a recent trade and that I just didnt quarantine that guy long/good enough, but after I take these snakes to the vet and get them checked out, the doc says these worms cannot be contracted through the vent of the snake, but only from the prey. Being inside the prey is a necessary step in the development and cannot be skipped. I believe she said they were Pinworms, or trachylides (sp)? So that means that Rodentpros feeders have parasites and they are selling these animals as clean, safe feeders. I will be taking some of these rats/mice of various ages and bring them to her for a fecal exam. We just have to wait until I get paid again or if I have enough after I get the necessary medication to clean my collection. I put this out there as an info thread so that people can not only hold off feeding these rats to their animals, but if they were curious enough themselves to take them to their vet and get them checked out for a second opinion. I will update this thread after we get the fecal smears on the rats done.
 
Are the rodents you are concerned about live, or frozen? Also, have you notified RodentPro about this problem and gotten a response from them? Have you made them aware of this thread?
 
Thank you for the Warning... I personally think breeding my own stock is easier since idont have to worry about external parasites in my colony and its cheaper but your experiance is a good piece of information to share with us.

I hop things work out for you and that everything gets squared away
 
kingsnake1 said:
Are the rodents you are concerned about live, or frozen? Also, have you notified RodentPro about this problem and gotten a response from them? Have you made them aware of this thread?
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yes this is a good step to take also but didnt know how to explain it in my own words... do this stuff and good luck :)
 
Frozen, and no I havent. This isnt a bad guy thread but an info thread, they have no need to defend themselves, yet. This is general info for people who use them to know that this is what I found, and if they feel it necessary to hold off feeding until I have a definite answer. Once I have confirmation that infact it was Rodentpros rats believe me I will contact Casey.
 
Wolfy-hound said:
That sounds bizarre. THe rodents are hard frozen, so how would they still be alive to have your snake contract them?
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I guess there is a chance the eggs can survive dormant and that they will "awaken" when they unthaw. Im not sure how it works but my vet said it was totally possible for them to contract internal parasites from frozen feed.
 
parasites can come from anywhere. i find it hard to believe that they came from frozen rodents.

have you had the parasites analyzed by a veterinarian to identify the species of parasite ??

its like people that ask where did my dog or cat or ferret (or whatever animal) get these parrasites from, they are all over the environment
 
I would contact them anyway with your concern that your snakes became infected with worms after eating frozen rodents from them. If you tell them the shipping date, they may be able to determine which colonies they came from and either treat or destroy the infested rodents.
 
also, i would call rodentpro, and ask how long they keep their prey items frozen before being shipped, and what temp they keep their holding freezers at.

ive been in animal emergency/critical care (and reptile/amphibian) for almost 15 years now, and i have never heard of any parasites being able to survivie 20 degrees (in the feezer) or less, and more than 48hrs in those freezer conditions
 
Correct me if im worng but doesnt RodentPro buy from other breeders and sell as their stock. Could explain the reason most shipments are covered in piss,poop,bedding. I ordered from them once and that was it for me...

Panacur can help you with your pinworms at $9 a tube
 
reticguy76 said:
parasites can come from anywhere. i find it hard to believe that they came from frozen rodents.

have you had the parasites analyzed by a veterinarian to identify the species of parasite ??

its like people that ask where did my dog or cat or ferret (or whatever animal) get these parrasites from, they are all over the environment
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Did u even read what I typed?

Yes I brought actual live parasites I found in my boas water dish this morning before I left.
 
keep in mind also, pinworms arent a big deal in repitles (particularly larger boidae), and generally pass right through the entire digestive tract with very little to no issues
 
RichsBallPythons said:
Correct me if im worng but doesnt RodentPro buy from other breeders and sell as their stock. Could explain the reason most shipments are covered in piss,poop,bedding. I ordered from them once and that was it for me...

Panacur can help you with your pinworms at $9 a tube
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Gotta have the liquid in the bottle, she didnt want me to use the paste in the tubes,

But yes I have been noticing more and more bedding in their fur as well. But hey I guess its a good thing that theres poo int he bags, makes it easier for me to collect a sample.
 
rcpreis3 said:
Gotta have the liquid in the bottle, she didnt want me to use the paste in the tubes,

But yes I have been noticing more and more bedding in their fur as well. But hey I guess its a good thing that theres poo int he bags, makes it easier for me to collect a sample.
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You would need a fresh sample from their live stock to test for any parasites. After so many days frozen they come back negative in test results.



And the paste is just as good as the liquid. Inject the paste into the rodents mouth/throat and feed to the snake. Do this once a week and youll be fine. Vet wants you to buy Rx they prescribe to make more off ya.

I would just look elsewhere for rodents or breed your own and see the difference
 
reticguy76 said:
keep in mind also, pinworms arent a big deal in repitles (particularly larger boidae), and generally pass right through the entire digestive tract with very little to no issues
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I dont really care if they do. I wont sell/trade an animal I know has internal or external parasites. I dont want worms floating in my waterdishes. And I wont let my animals deal with it.
 
rcpreis3 said:
Once I have confirmation that infact it was Rodentpros rats believe me I will contact Casey.
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With all due respect to you, once you called their name here, they should have been notified. I did so.
 
RichsBallPythons said:
You would need a fresh sample from their live stock to test for any parasites. After so many days frozen they come back negative in test results.



And the paste is just as good as the liquid. Inject the paste into the rodents mouth/throat and feed to the snake. Do this once a week and youll be fine. Vet wants you to buy Rx they prescribe to make more off ya.

I would just look elsewhere for rodents or breed your own and see the difference
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Normally I would agree with this, but Im her fiances boss and were pretty cool with each other. She actually didnt want me to spend the 250 a bottle they were asking at the vets and told me I should look online for a reputable seller of such. But she did specificly state she did not want me to get the paste, and since she did handle and exam my snakes, I feel comfortable going with what she told me to do. Thanks for the help!
 
and thats fine, i was simply stating that they dont affect the actual health of the reptile

i admire you for wanting them controlled and gone, which is the proper thing to do.

again though, i would contact them and ask them some questions, maybe things can be dealt with and solved before this goes any further
 
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