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This was intended to initially be an info thread but after repeatedly being treated like a liar when I have been cordial is silly. I would like to say Rowdy has been quick to respond and hasn't ignored me.
3/14: I pursued a 2010 Albino Spider ball python from from Rowdy. We agreed on a price and payment was made. Below are the pictures I received of the BP:
We discussed back and forth about shipping, temps and using a heat pack (text messages are below). Transaction was going smooth and nothing pertaining to the snakes health was mentioned.
3/21: the snake was shipped out from Dallas/FW area in Texas. Weather that day in DFW was:
She was picked up early that morning and I assume was on the truck all day. She arrived the next day at my house and upon opening the box, I noticed the heat pack was laying directly on the snake who was tightly wrapped in a bag. I pulled her out of the bag and she appeared lethargic, starved and dehydrated. She had a nose rub from what I can only assume she developed from trying to escape the heat pack. Her nose was raw but the least of my concerns. I placed her in her new tub and she had her head assisted to the water bowl where she drank as much as she could. Below are the pictures within 20 minutes after she arrived. Bones sticking out, flimsy skin, and lethargic. This is a snake that hasn't eaten in "9 days":
Here is the video of me unpacking her (this is only a portion of the video because I had to upload it via cell. If my integrity is questioned, I can provide more):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Socydqg1dak&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I left her alone until that night and she was still lethargic. I could hear slight popping but it was random and kind of hard to hear. I double checked her conditions and let her sleep.
The next day I went to work and left work at 10am to check on her. I get home and she is whistleing and wheezing ever so lightly. I used vacation time for the rest of the work day and scheduled the soonest vet appt I could. The whole time I was keeping Rowdy informed. I explained I was not laying blame but he remained defensive.
2pm arrived and I transported her to the vet and made sure my brother came to verify what went down and what the vet said. He said she had an RI and pulled mucous from her nose. We checked her throat and she was not drooling and her "throat veins" seemed fine (can't remember the name). After 24 hours and plenty of drinking water, this 2010 weekly eater weighed in at 183 grams. He prescribed her 0.1 cc's of enrofloxacin orally each day for six weeks and after the meds and exam, came to $79.05
I informed Rowdy and cordially requested that he split the vet bill with me. I have many doubts in my head, none of which were relayed to him, that this snake was sick before it arrived. 48 hours after drinking water she still doesn't appear to be a healthy eater. I feel splitting an $80 bill and ending this transaction was more than acceptable but I was wrong. I got more out of the trip in education than just treatment alone so that's why I justified splitting the bill but the blame was pretty much shuffled on me because I didn't see a problem with using a heat pack (texts below explain everything). Return shipping would have been more than this bill so I do see why this was an issue.
This thread is not about reimbursement, nor the packing, nor the health of the snake, nor who is at fault. This is about making the buyer at fault and suggesting I sell the snake to someone else and put it back in a box and ship it with an RI so it can be sold to someone else.
My losses here are 5 hours of work, $80 vet bill, 6 weeks of treatment and extreme quarantine for longer but his replies suggest I am making this stuff up to recoup a measily $40 when I have already lost so much more. I don't understand his logic behind it but oh well, the snake is back on the right track, I feel much better and she is a total sweetheart.
Vet bill:
Packaging:
Texts:
3/14: I pursued a 2010 Albino Spider ball python from from Rowdy. We agreed on a price and payment was made. Below are the pictures I received of the BP:
We discussed back and forth about shipping, temps and using a heat pack (text messages are below). Transaction was going smooth and nothing pertaining to the snakes health was mentioned.
3/21: the snake was shipped out from Dallas/FW area in Texas. Weather that day in DFW was:
She was picked up early that morning and I assume was on the truck all day. She arrived the next day at my house and upon opening the box, I noticed the heat pack was laying directly on the snake who was tightly wrapped in a bag. I pulled her out of the bag and she appeared lethargic, starved and dehydrated. She had a nose rub from what I can only assume she developed from trying to escape the heat pack. Her nose was raw but the least of my concerns. I placed her in her new tub and she had her head assisted to the water bowl where she drank as much as she could. Below are the pictures within 20 minutes after she arrived. Bones sticking out, flimsy skin, and lethargic. This is a snake that hasn't eaten in "9 days":
Here is the video of me unpacking her (this is only a portion of the video because I had to upload it via cell. If my integrity is questioned, I can provide more):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Socydqg1dak&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I left her alone until that night and she was still lethargic. I could hear slight popping but it was random and kind of hard to hear. I double checked her conditions and let her sleep.
The next day I went to work and left work at 10am to check on her. I get home and she is whistleing and wheezing ever so lightly. I used vacation time for the rest of the work day and scheduled the soonest vet appt I could. The whole time I was keeping Rowdy informed. I explained I was not laying blame but he remained defensive.
2pm arrived and I transported her to the vet and made sure my brother came to verify what went down and what the vet said. He said she had an RI and pulled mucous from her nose. We checked her throat and she was not drooling and her "throat veins" seemed fine (can't remember the name). After 24 hours and plenty of drinking water, this 2010 weekly eater weighed in at 183 grams. He prescribed her 0.1 cc's of enrofloxacin orally each day for six weeks and after the meds and exam, came to $79.05
I informed Rowdy and cordially requested that he split the vet bill with me. I have many doubts in my head, none of which were relayed to him, that this snake was sick before it arrived. 48 hours after drinking water she still doesn't appear to be a healthy eater. I feel splitting an $80 bill and ending this transaction was more than acceptable but I was wrong. I got more out of the trip in education than just treatment alone so that's why I justified splitting the bill but the blame was pretty much shuffled on me because I didn't see a problem with using a heat pack (texts below explain everything). Return shipping would have been more than this bill so I do see why this was an issue.
This thread is not about reimbursement, nor the packing, nor the health of the snake, nor who is at fault. This is about making the buyer at fault and suggesting I sell the snake to someone else and put it back in a box and ship it with an RI so it can be sold to someone else.
My losses here are 5 hours of work, $80 vet bill, 6 weeks of treatment and extreme quarantine for longer but his replies suggest I am making this stuff up to recoup a measily $40 when I have already lost so much more. I don't understand his logic behind it but oh well, the snake is back on the right track, I feel much better and she is a total sweetheart.
Vet bill:
Packaging:
Texts:
Thanks 
