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Russell Anderson [Bad guy!]

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bud mierkey said:
He was hopped up on oxycontin when he got bit at 10 at night.
he can dispute this fact all he wants he is a known liar.
fish and game stated the snake did not inject much venom it was his poulluted condition that nearly killed him.
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I am not convinced that any Fish and Wildlife officers or any doctors in North America who are *not* toxicologists or envenomation experts have sufficient expertise in this field to fully separate the symptoms of anapyhlaxis, envenomation and drug reactions in any patient.

The average doctor has little or no clinical experience with any kind of snake bite. Some of our local F&W officers have a bit more experience, but I would not consider any of them qualified to differentiate between the symptoms of alleged oxycontin overdose and black mamba bite. Even a clinical toxicologist would have some difficulty. I have read case histories involving bites to intoxicated people with drugs as a complicating factor. Even the experts writing these cases up for publication won't necessarily be confident in pointing to a single cause for a specific symptom in a patient that is both drugged and envenomated. It's just not that simple.

The only way that antivenom is contraindicated after an envenomation is if the patient is already dead. Delayed administration is not as effective, and it does not reverse damage that has already been done. It is still considered medically advisable.
 
Just to add, drugs and venomous snakes make for a Darwin Award kind of mix. I'd definitely support yanking anybody's license if they were proven to be handling under the influence. That's just plain irresponsible.

I don't know Russ, so I can't make any comments about him personally. But I would like to see the venomous community policing its own and preserving the antivenom supply by strongly discouraging irresponsible handling practices.

Even prescription drugs or over the counter medicines can really alter your judgement and reflexes. My rule is if I'm not safe to drive, I'm definitely not safe to handle. NyQuil is not a snake handler's friend. LOL I've called friends to help with my cages when I've been down with the flu and judged that I was too messed up in the head from being sick or from taking OTC meds to be a safe handler. One of the closest calls I ever had happened at a time when I didn't have the good judgement to do that, and it's not a stunt I plan to repeat.
 
eviction day for mr anderson

Happy day!!!
Happy day!
mr. andersons EVICTION DAY!
sorry for gloating.
he deserves much more but its a good start.
Hope he moves far away.
he kept the snakes he stole from me at his trailer and got busted like the fool he is.:cool:
 
nope

Russ got a visit from faw Dec,23rd he had no snakes they were all relocated by his minions to a russ anderson stolen snake hideout.
He should be all healed from his dance with the mamba.
Ready to con snakes off people at full power.


Definition "MINIONS" Any fool that helps russ :angry:
 
Wow, i didn't think this guy knew anyone

When i met this guy he seemed like a total retard. I was living in Orlando at the time, and through a friend i got introduced to this @#$hole. I had some baby D.polylepis i was trying to move. He asked me if i would give him the snake and let him pay me in a week. I told him to call me when he actually had money. It makes me feel real good that i didn't trust this guy. Not suprisingly i didn't hear a peep from him after that conversation. WHAT A TOOL. Anyone who keeps venomous animals(reptiles or otherwise), should not be doing drugs. I agree with whoever said this guy deserves the Darwin Award. PLEASE, get bit again Russ, we don't need you in the gene pool. Do the rest of humanity a favor and keep playing with venomous snakes. Matter of fact, get some Oxyuranus and speed the process up.
Sorry to hear all you guys got ripped of by this guy. It is sad that so many criminals keep reptiles. It gives the rest of us a bad name.
Jesse Smith
 
He tried to get you

Wow more people coming out of the wood work.
Russ gets around fast if he feels that he might be able to snag
some snakes mambas and forest cobras are his favorites.
he had some taipans but somehow did not get tagged.
now he will be looking to restock his new bedroom with nasties.
People BEWARE!!!

:bluegrab:
 
HMMMM

Florida DOW might be intereted to hear he had taipans. It is my understanding that you have to have documented proof of extensive experience with taipans before you can keep them(more than just your florida VR permit). Matter of fact i believe you have to have your zoological parks permit to keep them. This guy is nothing but a dumb@#$. He obviously should not be keeping hots. Obviously an uneducated piece of trailer trash.
Jesse SMith
 
nope

They can be bought like any other venomous if you have the hours and a license.
Not that I would ever want one.
nice snakes though.
 
There is no species of venomous snake that requires anything except a VR permit to keep except for sea snakes. F&W are pretty determined to keep sea snakes out of Florida because they think they would breed here and ruin the tourist trade. So their list of requirements to keep sea snakes is a bit on the ridiculous side and as far as I know no one has ever been able to meet them including the major parks and zoos. I was offered a chance to set up a colony of them for an overseas venom lab, which I had to *sob* *sniffle* turn down because F&W said no effing way.

It is a nice idea to give people different levels of a VR license, so some idjit who did all of his his 1,000 hours with copperheads and cottonmouths doesn't go right out and buy a king cobra. But they don't actually do that here in Florida.
 
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Could you please contact Florida DOW and prove that to me. I think that is incorrect. I need direct proof from a DOW agent. Not just some VR keeper who thinks he is right. Sorry to step on any toes.
Jesse Smith
 
I have known some keepers over the years who have kept and sold Tiapans. Just like everyone else said, all you need is the FL VR permit. I dont believe there is any other permit for Tiapans.
 
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colubridman88 said:
Could you please contact Florida DOW and prove that to me. I think that is incorrect. I need direct proof from a DOW agent. Not just some VR keeper who thinks he is right. Sorry to step on any toes.
Jesse Smith
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How about one who knows for a fact that he's right? There is no additiotional licensure requirement for any species beyond those of havving a valid VRL.
 
For us non-venomous people: What is special or so bad about the Tiapan? What are they? Please tell us some interesting things about them. Has anyone been bitten right in the face?
 
taipan

Taipan are highly toxic snakes they get real big to.
Somebody gets bit about once a year here and over in the aussie/PNG areas they take lives.
They dont kill as fast as a black mamba but death is near 100% without treatment.
antivenom costs a grand a vial you might need 10 or more.
They cost around 500-600 range
 
I have had my hot permit for several years now and due to the shelf life of most of the rarer anti-venom (Taipan for example) it is harder to come by. The way I do it is simply notify East Pasco Medical Center (its only a 10 minutes from here) of what I have and if I was to get hit they would know where to locate it fast.
 
After re-reading my last post t sounds like I was saying that I have Taipans. I want to correct that , I do not have Taipans!!!!
 
Why not just beat the crap out of him??

I'm sorry but, where I'm from (mexico/texas border) actions speak louder than words. If this Russ guy screwed me over, I'd be at his house right now, beating the living daylight out of him. Snake or no snake, I'd get the total satisfaction of kicking his ass. There are certain people that one can trust, I know a guy who owe's me $100, yeah no big deal, but $100 can pay my phone and cel, and I'm on his ass 24/7. Or also if your worried that Russ will call the cops on you, just get some of your buddies(make sure he doesnt know there you friends), to do it, and as a reward buy them a cold one :D sorry everyone just my .02 cents, and yea I know violence donts solve problems, but for me it does:)
 
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