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Bad Guy Ryan Trude

RyanT said:
Make that going back and forth for DAYS. I just looked at it again.
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Back and forth. That means you continued the conversation. You could have gracefully bowed out at any time. There is never a reason to talk to a customer the way you did. Some customers ask a lot of questions, some more than others.
You can gain a lot of goodwill by talking to customers and while they may not buy this time, they may remember your help at some future time.
If you really feel that the questions or emails were excessive, as I said you could have graciously ended the conversation.
 
I'm not sure why I read any of these anymore. They give me a headache. Way too much drama and immaturity.
 
Ryan,
I am done with this thread and the others. I made my point. The rest of our conversation was pleasant, YES. You're Animals are Top Notch and Look Great.

The way you handled the end of our conversation is what I thought was unprofessional and I did not care for it. That's just my opinion. You have your own opinion and even though I disagree with it, I respect it.

Enough Said on my part.

I am certain you will sell your animals quickly, as they are all very nice. Good Luck to you and I wish you nothing but the best.

Take Care,
Karl
 
I didn't make it to the messaging part. I was interested in a few of his snakes and have cash ready until I observed his posts ranting about lowball offers. I went another direction to say the least. I refuse to do business with anybody that can't conduct themselves in a professional manor.

I did luckily find a heck of a deal with a professional breeder a short time later, but that's another BOI post when the transaction is finished.
 
RyanT said:
Make that going back and forth for DAYS. I just looked at it again.
Do you people really hold this crap in any regard whatsoever? Petty. Pointless. Pathetic.
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dturner100 said:
I didn't make it to the messaging part. I was interested in a few of his snakes and have cash ready until I observed his posts ranting about lowball offers. I went another direction to say the least. I refuse to do business with anybody that can't conduct themselves in a professional manor.

I did luckily find a heck of a deal with a professional breeder a short time later, but that's another BOI post when the transaction is finished.
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The above post pretty much proves people do hold the BOI in regard. If you are referring to this actual post itself I wouldn't doubt it. Even though no business transaction was made & the post is just a strangers opinion, impressions can be made from a response & lack of care displayed in presenting one's case. I believe that also goes for the poster of some threads such as this one.
 
Just looked at this because Ryan is selling a very pretty Dark Texas Indigo. Maybe he is ok, maybe he's not. I have enough doubts about him now with the responses I saw him make here without even being aware of the actual events in person.

Thanks for publishing the BOI.
 
I've never dealt with Ryan, nor have I even spoken with him. But I do have one thing to add. In the past, I have purchased some amazing reptiles, from not so friendly individuals. The animals came in extremely healthy every time, with no complaints.

In regards to Ryan Trude, if I was in the business of purchasing BP's or whatever it is he's selling, I wouldn't hesitate to do so. Ryan's past ratings make him out to be a "good guy", and I wouldn't be worrying about getting scammed, or anything of the sort.

The OP never did post the full conversation that Ryan referred to a few months back. Just because Ryan blew steam off at Karl doesn't make him out to be a bad guy who's going to scam you, at least in my eyes.
 
I agree with TeguBuzz, mostly.

RyanT said:
Hey Karl, I just finally paid enough attention to your whining to notice something...How bout you show them the WHOLE thread of us going back and forth for hours. You requesting all kinds of pics. Going this way, going that way. You know...the way it actually went. You wanna shine a light on what a good little ball boy you are, you should get ALL of the credit. So where's the rest, sweetie? Is there enough room to post it? I'd do it but I couldn't care less. I'll let you handle it.
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I have an issue with the above statement. It is saying, you have reason for your actions but you don't care what your potential customers may think.
 
mr. trude simply cannot be trusted to follow through on his word. His animals are not in question, but he, personally, is. Why buy from a guy like him when you can get the same quality from people who are not as he is?
 
Hey Wes, I CHANGED MY MIND and decided not to buy your False Water Cobras 10 years ago.
Get over it, sweetie. :crying::notallthe
 
You're probably right Tegubuzz. It's just money.
No need to take note of the way he spoke to Ken Foose and John Schmidt at Suncoast in earlier posts on other threads. He seems like a nice guy.
 
Robert, where in my post did I state Ryan Trude was a nice guy? I stated my opinion based on this thread. I've dealt with individuals with attitudes much worse than his.

As far as the Ken Foose and John Schmidt incident, I'd have to look into it as I haven't heard of it seeing that I don't frequent the BOI too often unless I'm posting a thread or looking an individual up.
 
RyanT said:
Hey Wes, I CHANGED MY MIND and decided not to buy your False Water Cobras 10 years ago.
Get over it, sweetie. :crying::notallthe
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You see potential customers of his? He made a deal, confirmed it was a done deal, then backed out and got all butthurt when I brought it up. Apparently he's still all butthurt over it or he would not be so irritated over it now.

There are MANY people with what he's got so again I ask, why do business with a guy like this when you can find a genuine nice guy to buy from?

Do you go to a grocer with this attitude or the nice guy down the road? Do you go to a mechanic with an attitude like this or the nice guy down the road?

We get to choose who we give our money to. I choose, and recommend that others follow suit, to give it to the nice guys not the guys like mr. trude.
 
Tegu buzz,

Sure there are isolated situations where regular decent people have a bad day. We are all human.

I don't know Ryan from anyone, but when you see his posts in response to folks like Ken Foose and John Schmidt who have excellent reputations you have to take note, these are not just disgruntled nobodies.

Any doubt I had about the way Mr. Trude treats people was decided by his PM to me. It seems pretty on the money with his reactions to others.

He at a minimum needs to work on his people skills, at a maximum he needs to be avoided based on the history presented here, most of which centers on his responses to people even when you know nothing about the situation with others they are referring too.

Mr. Trude you sound like a young guy who needs to take stock of himself and decide if you're going to address your concerns and try to do better and redeem your reputation or you're just going to stay angry at folks finding out about past mishaps.
I hope you choose to address your concerns and have a happier life and enjoy the hobby.
 
I have zero concern with being a "nice guy". It's not my job to change the diapers of grown "men" who like to cry on their keyboards. Such pathetic, needy behavior. Grow up. I mean what I say and say what I mean and I couldn't care less how it affects your delicate little feelings. We're all here because we have a shared interest in the same animals, THAT is ALL that matters. You boys with your mommy issues should save it for your therapists, that's what you pay them for. Thanks for bringing my name back up for no reason whatsoever, Bobby, this is definitely the thread you belong on. You're literally old enough to be my father. My immediate impression of you is that you're a tire kicking wannabe. Not worth my time. Good day, "sirs". (I use that term very loosely.)
 
Ryan,

Look at what you wrote. It says more about you than me. You have no idea of who I am or who I'm not but you have much to say.

You're not going to get anywhere in life blaming other folks for your actions and having that anger inside you vent at anyone who crosses your path.

Don't stay where you are, it's not good for you.

Regards,
 
I am glad I read this thread. How a customer/potential customer is treated is a large part of the business we are all in. Regardless of the health of the animal, the behavior and conduct of the person I am purchasing animals from is very important. It ensures repeat customers as well as potential future customers. Imagine how Ryan would treat a customer who questioned the health or appearance of one of his animal? What if someone claimed they received an unhealthy one? Then how would Ryan behave?Being available to the customer after a transaction is equally important, as demonstrated in other areas of this BOI. I will obviously not deal with Ryan based on his own words and actions in this thread. I'm sure I will soon be insulted as well for my opinion.

Bill Stewart
 
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