Salamandra Bernardezi

[Josebalderrama]

I have 1.1 salamandra Bernardezi These are extremely rare so the price is set in stone shipping available this week and next week before it gets too hot 2500$ shipped

 

[Alexandersalamander]

When did fire salamanders get so expensive?

 

[James L]

Different species. Fire is Salamandra salamandra.

 

[Josebalderrama]

**** extremely rare *****

 

[dochawker]

Different species. Fire is Salamandra salamandra.

Same species, different subspecies. Still fires, right?

Salamandra salamandra ssp. bernardezi - Oviedo fire salamander (far more rare in pet trade, esp NA)
Salamandra salamandra ssp. salamandra – spotted fire salamander (common in pet trade)
Salamandra salamandra ssp. terrestris – barred fire salamander (common in pet trade)

 

[Josebalderrama]

Same species, different subspecies. Still fires, right?

Salamandra salamandra ssp. bernardezi - Oviedo fire salamander (far more rare in pet trade, esp NA)
Salamandra salamandra ssp. salamandra – spotted fire salamander (common in pet trade)
Salamandra salamandra ssp. terrestris – barred fire salamander (common in pet trade)

None of the above are common

 

[dochawker]

None of the above are common

I think an important caveat to note would be that their populations are quite healthy in the pet trade (the exception being Oviedo). The perceived rarity of ssp. salamandra and terrestris would be attributed to the 2016 amendments to the Lacey Act which introduced many salamander species to the injurious wildlife list.

With the increased regulation concerning interstate transport of these salamanders, several vendors stopped breeding these salamanders for online sales altogether. Intrastate sales seem to be just fine from my and my colleagues' past experiences.

Edit: Here is a great guide if anyone is interested. https://www.fws.gov/le/pdf/Exporting-Injurious-Salamanders-Factsheet.pdf

 

[JaimeLannister]

There are only a handful of people breeding Fire salamanders and actively selling them to the public for cash $. There are no commercial breeders of them in the USA. They were always mass caught in the Ukraine and imported. They are not common in the slightest. If ball python morphs can sell for hundreds of dollars; something that is actually rare in the trade should command a high price.

I think an important caveat to note would be that their populations are quite healthy in the pet trade (the exception being Oviedo). The perceived rarity of ssp. salamandra and terrestris would be attributed to the 2016 amendments to the Lacey Act which introduced many salamander species to the injurious wildlife list.

With the increased regulation concerning interstate transport of these salamanders, several vendors stopped breeding these salamanders for online sales altogether. Intrastate sales seem to be just fine from my and my colleagues' past experiences.

Edit: Here is a great guide if anyone is interested. https://www.fws.gov/le/pdf/Exporting-Injurious-Salamanders-Factsheet.pdf

 

[Josebalderrama]

Still available 1250 $