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Bad Guy Scott @ CV Exotics gets JAIL TIME!

The fake hets have something to do with the simple fact that while Scott was working for me he would replace hets with normals and exchange eggs with other eggs he had from his breedings.

I never knew any of this until we caught an employee named Dan stealing a few snakes and he rolled on Scott and said if I think he is bad he has done nothing compared to what Scott had done. This I find out after Scott was done working for me.

Pete Kahl went throught stuff like this as well as some other breeders...


Kevin
 
NERD said:
The fake hets have something to do with the simple fact that while Scott was working for me he would replace hets with normals and exchange eggs with other eggs he had from his breedings
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Do you have any proof of this? Besides what you were told by an employee who was caught for stealing and might have just been trying to cover up their own thievery?

Also unless you have proof that all of the "fake hets" came from Scott's doings that does still not explain why nothing was done to make the situation right.
 
I just wanted to throw my opinion in here as someone from the outside not even having heard of either party until a couple months ago.

As far as the fake hets go I would say if someone actually has evidence of them being sold and it not having been made right, they should start a new thread so it doesn't get lost in this one.

Well Scotts lawyer who often took his cues from the states lawyer cause he had absolutely no substance to Scotts defense said "We are an INCESTUOUS community" HA!!!!:
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That statement actually does work if he intended it to be taken in this manner:
being so close or intimate as to prevent proper functioning: an incestuous relationship between organized crime and government.
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from dictionary.com

Now I don't know if he meant it that way or not and given the other things I've read and heard about Scott's lawyer, I'm not so sure he did.

Which brings me to the actual case and my worries about it. Did Scott buy a stolen animal? Obviously. Did he know who it was stolen from? Almost certainly. Did he know exactly what morph it was? More than likely. But there's a few problems with this case that I'm afraid a good lawyer would be able to take advantage of.

Please correct me if anything I state is incorrect. The victim of the crime was used as an "expert witness" in the trial. Now from what I understand is that this was allowed because the victim was one of the only people with full knowledge of this morph, yet it was contended at trial that since Scott saw it on Nerd's website that he knew exactly what he was buying. I'm sorry but I don't think you can really have that both ways.

Then two of the witnesses that helped convict him don't exactly appear to have pure motives. One was the person that actually committed the theft and received a lesser sentence for pleading out and testifying. Please stop saying that he admitted to doing something wrong and felt bad about it, he only feels bad that he was caught. Let's be honest if he hadn't been caught on tape I highly doubt he would have admitted to anything. Then the second witness, a former employee of Scott's that from what I understand received a job from Nerd before Scott was even convicted. I'm not saying he did anything wrong at all or that he isn't a good guy but it just doesn't look good.

Then there's Scott's lawyer. All I will say is if you are happy that Scott was convicted, I wouldn't talk about how his lawyer contributed nothing to his defense. Ineffective council is as good a reason as any to have a conviction set aside.

I am positive Scott is guilty of something but as is almost always the case, I don't think either side is being completely honest.
 
Someone get that man some toilet paper cause that was a bunch of verbal diarrhea. I can't believe this is being rehashed again!!!! This is a thread about what SCOTT SEAVEY of CV EXOTICS did NOT anyone else. NOBODY else here should have been or be put on anyones personal trials.
Cindy Ent
 
I love posts that not only contribute nothing but also state things that are untrue.

NOBODY else here should have been or be put on anyones personal trials.
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That is exactly what happens when you are a witness. When all we have is your word that what you say is true, your character, credibility, and motives are just as relevant as what you are saying. It's called impeaching your testimony.

Now that being said I wasn't putting anyone on a personal trial. I was simply stating that there were some problems with the way this case was handled and that unfortunately they may be used to actually help Scott in the future. In fact I'm pretty sure I stated a couple of times that Scott was guilty of something.

Obviously you have some personal investment in this matter and you aren't willing to accept anyone looking at this case in a way other than your own. I'm not sure if you didn't read what I said or just don't have very good reading comprehension but I await another witty "verbal diarrhea" comment.
 
Video Surveillance a must........

Kevin do you use video/DVD recording in your shop/facility? I have a 24-7 system and its proved its effectiveness over the years:thumbsup:.....
 
nerd does employ cameras through out thats how the thief was caught. there is no doubt that he bought a stolen snake so as far as appeals go there is no leg to stand, on that one.
now if you are talking wether or not he told the kid to steal the snake that is one persons word against another. either way he should pay the price for buying stolen goods it makes other people think twice before trying it. and one other thing this thread is about scott not wether kevin sold hets that did not prove out, start another thread if you want to, but has no merit on this one.
 
My post was about Kevin at NERD selling me a pair of Het Caramels back in 1998 for $10,000that never proved out. But, that'll be for another post on the BOI on it's own. Kevin has refused over the last 12 years to come good on the deal.........
 
Nerd addressed this issue a couple pages back Corey; I was shocked by his response? Sounds familiar to BHB and their response to a het that hasn't proved as well... It seems the "well I got ripped so are you" response is becoming commonplace? Scary really? IMO.
 
Corey Woods said:
My post was about Kevin at NERD selling me a pair of Het Caramels back in 1998 for $10,000that never proved out. But, that'll be for another post on the BOI on it's own. Kevin has refused over the last 12 years to come good on the deal.........
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If you make a new thread involving this topic, it can't get lost. Please do so, else your revelation may be lost in this thread.

I would ignore further attempts to keep your topic buried in this thread. 10K is a lot of money, I have brought Het Caramels for less than that, so you are out a lot of potential profit.
 
caramel hets

way irresponsible of any breeder not to up-hold there gurantee in hets , becuz of a disgruntle employees actions !!! so that means there could be more people out there that paid a boat load of $$$ 10-12 yrs ago for hets that didnt prove out !!! i think corey definitely deserves a refund or compensation of some kind !!!
 
Picture ID works for one individual or family-owned operations where no employees are in touch with the animals. As with this case, hetero snakes could have been switched by a dishonest employee. For a business such as NERD which sells expensive, high-end snakes it is worth to use microchips. Snakes should be read before they are sold to make sure the right animal is going out. Claims will only be honored once the snake is returned and read. Similarly, the collection needs to be read often to make sure all hetero animals are accounted for.
 
Yes, I'll put everything together in it's own post just as soon as I get a chance to write everything up.

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Corey Woods
 
So because your employee was switching out hets for normals you are not responsible for them? I would say that is a pretty shitty response, I understand it sucks for you getting screwed like that but it was still YOUR employee.
 
Exactly! I don't care if your employees decided it would be fun to hide your eggs for an Easter Egg Hunt and then put them all back in the wrong tubs. You are still responsible for giving your customer what they paid for, PERIOD!! If any customer got the wrong genes, you should make it right!!!
 
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