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Bad Guy Sean Kirk and Corina Kirk Vachon BEWARE THEY ARE CROOKS

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I paid 1150.00 for 2 snake from Sean Kirk, the money was sent to Corina Kirk at [email protected] Which were never sent. He has drug it out for 2 years with one excuse after another then finally no contact. I am a patient guy and willing to work with people but this guy is a scammer. I will post the emails and facebook messages but I can't post the phone conversations which would fill in some gaps but you should be able to come to the same conclusion.

From: sean kirk ([email protected])
Sent: Thu 7/15/10 6:45 PM
To: [email protected]

As agreed I will either repay you $1150.00 by cash or a Litter/baby boas of your choice to Equal AT LEAST $1150.00 which ever comes first!!
Sean Kirk

New England Reptile Association

From: sean kirk ([email protected])
Sent: Mon 9/07/09 6:01 PM
To: Kenneth Cloak ([email protected])

Hey man sorry I havent been available. Its been a crazy weekend. I got the money. I will try to call you after dinner. I just got home and the Family wants me to spend some time with them..

From: Kenneth Cloak <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: "sean kirk" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 4:33 PM

I sent you 700 that is what i had in paypal right nowwill square up later in the week is that ok give me a call

Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 05:43:04 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: [email protected]

[email protected] is the paypal addy I have been using till this investigation is over to get my money back from that scum bag.

From: Kenneth Cloak <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: "sean kirk" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 7:58 PM

what is the correct paypal account?

Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:53:29 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: [email protected]

Hey man,

I wanted to catch up with the Hypo with you to see where we are at and offer you the Hypo Motley Het Albino!! My Van broke down the other day, The transmission went. I need some funds Quick. Looks like it will be cheaper to buy new but I need a grand.
I will do the Hypo motley for you for $750 instead of the $975 I was going to list it for. It is about 34 inches and feeding on small rats. This is a time sensitive deal though. I need payment ASAP.

Sean

From: Kenneth Cloak <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: "sean kirk" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:18 PM

wow that suck someone you knew?

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:47:21 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: [email protected]

Ok my paypal changed. I was robbed recently and have some charges being filed. I am using my Clubs paypal for now.

[email protected] use this email for paypal

From: Kenneth Cloak <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: "sean kirk" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:38 PM


ok i'll take him i posted some teeth as soon as that clear i'll paypal you.

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:40:29 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: [email protected]

He is het snow AKA Moonglow when mixed with the Hypo

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:21:18 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hypo het moonglow
To: [email protected]

This is a direct link to my paypal and the pic. Let me know if this works. Im having a terrible day and now night. Let me know a good time to call tomorrow after 3pm.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh257/seansexotics/100_2082.jpg

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: hypo het moonglow
To: [email protected]

Hey man this is the best pic I have right now. Its from a month or so ago. He is in shed now. Sorry I didnt call last night, My boys killed my phone talking to there mom and by time I remembered after it was charged a bit it was late.
100_2082.jpg


New England Reptile Association
http://nera-forum.com/index.php
Sean Kirk C/O Sean's Exotics 518-879-7149



This is the facebook stuff remember there were phone calls mixed in here so I hope you can follow.



October 19, 2009Kenn Cloak
snakesSo when do you think a good day to send them is and by what shipper?

October 20, 2009Sean Kirk
Early next week. Sorry man I have strep throat. Every on ein the house had it a few weeks ago and I thought I was safe.. Bitches.. LOL

October 26, 2009Kenn Cloak
do you still have the address you sent to the last time for me?

October 27, 2009Sean Kirk
Hey man, I will call you tomorrow. What time is good? I just got back from Chest Xrays and its official I hve pneumonia. Fuckin hell!!
I have a follow up with my own Doc at 2 tomorrow but should be home around 4 or so. I can call any time after that.
Give me your addy again.

October 27, 2009Kenn Cloak
Kenn Cloak
1931 N. Main st.
summerville, SC 29483
you can call me anytime..

October 27, 2009Sean Kirk
You got it man.

October 29, 2009Sean Kirk
Sorry man I was eating dinner when you were on. I did find my phone. Im an idiot.. It fell out of the case in the car..

November 1, 2009Sean Kirk
Hey man, I didnt get a chance to do anything today. I will get them packed up when I get home from work and send you tracking info. I need to weigh them before I can pay for shipping, LOL..

November 1, 2009Kenn Cloak

thats kool thanks

November 2, 2009Sean Kirk
Dude you aint going to belive ethis :censored:. Worse :censored: Month ever!!I packed everything up. I setup the box and weighed it and went to throw in the heat packs just before I sealed it and I noticed something crawling on the bag.. It was a mite. I then noticed on the back of my hand 2 mites.. All I did was pull them from the cages and put them in the sacks. They are COVERED!!!! Dude I opened the bag and it was like pepper. I went down and looked at the stack of cages and racks and can see them every where.
Now this is the kicker, The whole time Im flipping out and this chick that helps me is here and hears all this.. She leaves and calls me and says I forgot to tell you my snakes have mites and I meant to get something from you... Now get this...
3 :censored: WEEKS AGO!!!! She has been at my house 3-4 days a week for the last several weeks trying to help me and the wife out getting everything cleaned up and the basement put back together after the flood. She couldnt tell me she had mites in her collection! Now she has mites and I have mites in everything, She also has 2 of the Sunglow Motleys for sale and informed me they now have mites too.. Now I have to put everything on hold and hold everything till I know the mites are taken care of.
Dude if you want a refund Id understand! I dont have any cash now thouhg and would need to sell the damn things. I promise though if you still want them I will continue to feed the hell outta of them. With everything that is going on I didnt notice them. I am just in there cage or rack quick for the animals and then out. Even our geckos are covered, they are a huge pain in the :censored: to fix..
Sorry man, Let me know what ya wanna do.. Im so pissed right now I could :censored: her up. She has a bangin little body and is fun to watch clean but not worth thousands of dollars worth of snakes!!

November 2, 2009Kenn Cloak
I still want the snakes but you keep the mites

November 2, 2009Sean Kirk
LOL, If you insist.. I have been down oiling snakes and spraying cages all night and wont be done till late tonight.. This sucks.

November 2, 2009Kenn Cloak
it will be easier for me to clear it from 2 then your whole collection call me 609-668-3819

November 18, 2009Kenn Cloak
Give me a call I wanted to see if you could mail them next week? 609-668-3819

November 20, 2009Sean Kirk
Dude- Face Book is :censored: up.. I tried to answer you twice today and onec eyesterday and it wont let me. Then I went to reply to this and it kept giving me a pink screen saying error..
Next Wednesday I can do.. I am way over on my minutes this month man. My new minutes start the 21rst.. I have never talked on my phone as much as I have in the last couple weeks. My X wife is in jail so I am trying to et info on how long so I can actually finalize my divorce and marry the new one. LOL
November 20, 2009Kenn Cloak
In jail for what?

wednesday will be great thanks

November 30, 2009Kenn Cloak
you gonna be sending them out tomorrow?

November 30, 2009Sean Kirk
Yeah Man!! Ima be out late tomorrow but will email you tracking when I get back..

November 30, 2009Kenn Cloak
cool thanks

December 1, 2009Sean Kirk
Hey man, I just got home and showered.. I didnt get them out. I will call you some time tomorrow evening. I might just have to get some cash together some how and send you a refund.. You have waited long enough.. They dont look right, I will explain tomorrow but now I am going to diffuse and go to bed. I may have to kill my boss tomorrow..

December 1, 2009Kenn Cloak
your killing me i got rid of my motley male to get yours..

December 2, 2009Kenn Cloak
whats wrong with them give me a call 609-668-3819

December 3, 2009Kenn Cloak
I want the snake let clear them up here. I gave you the money you asked for when you needed it. I need those males motley hypo het albino and the triple het. I will clear the the mites. I gave you the money in good faith please make this right.

December 7, 2009Sean Kirk
Damn Business. LOLI wasnt there at 814 pm, but am now.. LOL
Hey man I should be around for chat most of tonight

December 7, 2009Sean Kirk
Sorry man, My Kid started puking all over the damn floor.. Im going to get them started on there baths and then if not to late I will jump back on..

December 13, 2009Sean Kirk
Sorry DudeHey man-

My buddy didnt get back to me yet. He is hard to get ahold of on weekends though.
Sorry for not being around today.
Ceiling in my basement fell, The idiot before me used 1x3 furring strips and 1 inch nails to attach it to the ceiling, then Glued Ceiling tiles to the furring strip.. I have been fixing it all day. I had to tear down some, Pick up ceiling tiles and re-affix all the lighting they also had nailed in to the furring strips....

December 13, 2009Kenn Cloak
that sucks but i like basements

December 15, 2009Kenn Cloak
any word?

December 15, 2009Kenn Cloak
did you find out from that guy yet?
December 20, 2009Sean Kirk
Hey ManYo Dawg-

Ive been runnin all weekend, Stoppin in time to time. I will catch up with ya tomorrow. Im headin to bed now, Work in the AM..
I havent had any body come through yet and haven a tough time sellin some torts here to get some cash. Only ones buyin are offering Low Ball prices..

December 26, 2009Kenn Cloak
I'm up here in north jersey let see if we can't touch base?

December 28, 2009Kenn Cloak
Lets connect so i can see how bad they are. Please reply

December 28, 2009Sean Kirk
Hey man, Sorry I didnt get the email for the message above this one, Just this l;ast message.. Where in North Jersey? How long are you here?

December 28, 2009Kenn Cloak
vincentown and 3 weeks. I tried to bring the warm weather but it didn't work
January 2, 2010Sean Kirk
Ahhh, I tried to send you a message right after this since I noticed you on.. It kept giving me that pink notice thingy..
I will be out much of the morning and early afternoon tomorrow. I will try to call you When I get home...

January 4, 2010Kenn Cloak
Whats going on?

January 14, 2010Kenn Cloak
week need to touch base here. call 609-668-3819

January 15, 2010Kenn Cloak
I paid the last of the money back on 10/13/09 it just seems like one story after another. I sold my male motley 100% het albino to make room for your 2 males a triple het and a hypo/motley 100% het albino you needed money to fix your van and 700 dollars and then 450 a few weeks later for the balance for these 2 snakes. Then you tell me they got mites, then a nuralogical problem,then a snake to replace that fell through now I got to wait for some sales or something. I set up for a time to meet then thats out. Look at it from my side what would you think? It looks like I'm getting scammed we chatted on paypal alot and you seem cool so I am confused.
January 19, 2010Kenn Cloak
So you just ignoring me now. You got the $1150 when you needed it for the triple het and the triple het mot. Then you give me one story after another. Mite,noralogical then a trade,then when you sell something. Then no reply it fells like you are scamming me. Then the cold shoulder. I was starting to like you but there is a trust issue with these stories. I'm not trying to be a prick but put yourself in my place. It seems like you have no desire to sqaure this up.

January 22, 2010Kenn Cloak
I need you tocall me you work at lowes?

January 23, 2010Sean Kirk
Hey man, Sorry I just hear your message. and seen this. I can call you Sunday.. I work for Lowes, Whats up??

January 23, 2010Kenn Cloak
need to talk on phone for better info


January 23, 2010Sean Kirk
Ok man I will call you Sunday afternoon, Does that work for you
February 2, 2010Sean Kirk
Sorry man I just got back from the E R with Corina.. Im playing hooky tomorrow so I will call you then,..

February 2, 2010Kenn Cloak
K

March 3, 2010Kenn Cloak
hear anything about any good males?

March 5, 2010Sean Kirk
No sorry man. I havent heard much about anything lately.. Pnuemonia has kicked my ass again. Im just wiondering If i am dying young thease days., LOL

March 9, 2010Kenn Cloak
So did you have any boas die last year?

March 9, 2010Kenn Cloak
So did you have any boas die last year?


March 9, 2010Sean Kirk
babies? I lost 2 Adults. 1 was 14 yrs old and died from a URI, She was just to old to recover. She wasn't a breeder tho. I had 1 female die about 30 days Pre Birth. I cut her open and found 37 good babies but to late to save them.. Still unsure why she died.
Did you loose any?
Ohh I had a Male Anery eht snow adult breeder just die as well. I found him with his teeth sunk into his side, Not sure why..
That is one of the tough things about live stock, They cant tell you whats wrong and some times they just die..


March 9, 2010Kenn Cloak
just wondering. how are those 2 male still messed up?


March 29, 2010Kenn Cloak
what's going on?

March 30, 2010Kenn Cloak
How is it going any gravids?

March 30, 2010Sean Kirk
Hey man, Yeah I got a few here and some others at a buddies house. Late breeders tho. Damn warm weather screwed things up. LOL Breed so much better when its cool and Rainy/Snowy.. Storms bring loving.. LOL
Sorry man I am using my Cell to Facebook for a bit. I can see your messages but cant reply. I can reply to this and posts VIA email though. I got a Virus from facebook. Got a facebook email from what i thougth was a fiend but there acct was hacked. i found out to late.. bastards. Will have my laptop back tomorrow I think. Killin me without it, I cant watch good porn on my cell. LMAO

April 18, 2010Kenn Cloak
Just give me a call it easier. Checking to see how its going

April 23, 2010Kenn Cloak
HOws it loooking got any thing gravid?

April 24, 2010Kenn Cloak
You going to honor the deal. I'm not hearing anything from you.

April 25, 2010Kenn Cloak
whats going on????

April 26, 2010Sean Kirk
Sorry man, I am on only to screw around a bit and check emails..
Its summer time, I spend more time out doors with my Sons and Fishing then anything else. I threw my back last week and was out of work Thursday and Friday but almost entirely bed ridden. My Dog broke its neck Thursday and I had to put him down Friday morning so this weekend I wasn't talking to anyone.
Were good, I do have some Gravid females but the weather is fucking with breeding and Ovulations.. Up here it is 80+ 1 day and 45 the next. As soon as I get anything your the first to pick!!

April 26, 2010Kenn Cloak
ok kool wasnt getting any feed back

May 16, 2010Sean Kirk
Boas...Yeah I got a couple shitty birthings.. One from Sunglow to Motley, I got 18 babies from this firts time female and only 3 Motleys and 1 Hypo motley and 3 hypos. Rest normals.. I got a litter from a Motley to a Hypo motley and the only got 9 babies and 22 Slugs. 1 Super motley that was kinked soo bad I froze it. Had a friend get a Sunglow litter and he got a bunch of small babies that look like they came from a 4 foot female central american. I swear the weather fucked up everything...
You signed off as I was typing this. LOL

May 16, 2010Kenn Cloak
Anything else on the way?

June 9, 2010Kenn Cloak
Call me 609-668-3819

June 17, 2010Kenn Cloak
call me about this let's talk?

June 20, 2010Kenn Cloak
You have to have something you can send to make this right. I paid 1150 when you needed it. Let's get this done so we can move on.

June 21, 2010Kenn Cloak
So your just going to ignore me. Then you leave me no choice I will be posting on BOI, talking to paypal about that account you used and I will be up in NJ in a month so I will drive up and file a small claims case using all the emails as proof. I will also add the money for the trips up there to the suit as well. I have tried to work with you. you can cover what you owed me with babies.

June 22, 2010Sean Kirk
Not ignoring you.. Ive gogt other shit going on.. I will call you this afternoon. Its 3am now so I doubt your up!!

June 22, 2010Sean Kirk
Hey man! I assume your out diving so give me a time to call.
Your last sentence in your message said give you babies.
My intentions was to give you babies but I dont have any yet. i didnt breed a lot due to the economy now I am regretting. I told ya before I dont want to be stuck with babies and I dont want to be like the Motley guy we were talking about and sell cheap to get ahead.
I was at my sons Birthday party Saturday when you called and in the Emergency room Saturday from 11pm to Sunday at 3pm.
Let me know when a good time for you is. I work at 4am and am free from 4am to 6am if your up! LOL

June 23, 2010Kenn Cloak
What ever happen to the 2 snakes I paid for? What babies are availible let figuere this oyut and get it done.

June 28, 2010Sean Kirk
Im will give ya a call tomorrow and Wednesday. I am off work Wednesday..

July 2, 2010Kenn Cloak
well you didn't call what a surprise

July 2, 2010Sean Kirk
Seriously Dude are you :censored:ing with me?? Bill?? Whos Bill? If that wasn't you laughing in the background and making me hold for 5 minutes then I apologize but if that was you and a friend :censored:ing with me... Well Not cool!!

July 2, 2010Kenn Cloak
No one was :censored:ing with you. You never called me. I want to get this done with why would I :censored: with you. My phone # is 609-668-3819

July 7, 2010Kenn Cloak
You going to call or what lets get this done it has been 10 months.

July 7, 2010Kenn Cloak
No call so the 19th I will be up there filing in your court house for the money you owe me plus traveling expenses.

July 11, 2010Sean Kirk
emailI cant find your email...

July 11, 2010Kenn Cloak
[email protected] thanks for doing this it will ease my mind

September 4, 2010Sean Kirk
updateno updates man.. sorry been a little crazy this week..

September 18, 2010Kenn Cloak
any word on anything?

September 18, 2010Sean Kirk
Trying some shit out now. Had a couple females ovulate already so with any luck all fem's that I hled in the spring will go late fall..

February 25Kenn Cloak
So what's going on?

April 14Sent from ChatKenn Cloak
your females getting fat?

April 16Sent from ChatKenn Cloak
SO WHAT'S GOING ON, IGNORING ME AGAIN?

May 23Sent from ChatKenn Cloak
You there?

May 25Sent from ChatKenn Cloak
Just trying to find out what's going. So we can bring and end to this to an end. You need to square up or at least bring up to speed if you have something gravid for trade.

June 1Sent from ChatKenn Cloak
So what's Going on?

In those talks you would see where I would start to get pissed on him ignoring me and he would call and spue a line of crap about squaring up, time are tough but he needs to be a man and square up.
 
I must say Kenneth you are an extremely patient man to wait 2 years for a shipment!:eek:

I hope you can get some satisfaction after all this time.
 
Wow. I'm at a loss for words with the amount of excuses this guy comes up with. Isn't it ironic, every time he needs to answer you or come through, some other bad luck hits him. :rolleyes:

Hope that he makes this right, but after two years, doesn't look promising.

Sean - what do you have to say for yourself?
 
I am not going to flame Sean Kirk over a public forum. He is a previous friend of a friend. He lives in Saratoga Springs NY, and is not even close to a breeder. To even call him a flipper does the animals that go thru his house a dishonest injustice.

There is always that one person, or situation in your life that you wish you just never had to experience, walking into this individuals house and basement is my example.

I'm sorry you had to experience this, I wish I could assure you that he will make good on his promises, but sadly that is not going to happen. I have watched this guy scam some of my closest friends, honest to god good people who simply trusted him, over and over again until they give up.

I cannot provide any information on this individual case, other than the fact you will not see any boa's produced by him.
 
July 7, 2010Kenn Cloak
No call so the 19th I will be up there filing in your court house for the money you owe me plus traveling expenses.

I would be backing up my words and planning a road trip. :) Bluffing is useless in cases of this nature (as we have learned through the many experiences documented here).

Looks like the classic delay tactic....

I also see that the money was sent though PayPal (PP)...if you used a credit card though PP then you may still have some recourse (depending on their time limitation policy for filing claims) and can file with the credit card company to recoup your loss.
 
In most cases you can file charges at your local Police dept. if you have already not done so, they will send it up to his Police dept. for prosecution.keep in mind there are statutes of limitations to contend with.

Good luck.
 
Glad to hear you got paid - even if it took filing with the court to make it happen.
 
I also am glad u got paid.
However, never in ny life have I heard of someone going to the emergency room that many times unless there is a chronic condition. I cannot believe you held out that long - your a better man then most.
All I can say is Wow .. I'm at a loss for words.
 
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