Sean Kirk any info.

[Sledgehammer]

Hey Jim O,
I would much prefer to be accused of being Shrillomn then to be accused of being Jim O!

 

[Jim O]

Here's the difference. You aren't me...

 

[lanceheads]

Dang Ben, you have 8 more post than warning points!
What does that say about your creditability?

Randal

 

[seansexotics]

ok one last time, i can not believe the reaction, it has been great publicity but getting redicolous, so what if i use wholesalers list, they are in the market to sell there reptiles, it is not just xtremes list but 3 others as well. the prices are marked up 10-30% but i guess that is what pisses some people off. i do not get a 30 day guarentee but i still offer a 30 day guarentee on CB animals and 15 days on W/C animals.. alwasy have and always will.. this is exactly why i havent dealt with the public in so long.. i do not lie if i post ads i say if i produced it or someone else but i still offer the same guarentees. now if you buy albinos from whoever and you produce babies and when selling people ask where did these come from you say there from "whoever", i have several snake morphs from several big names but i got deals on these from pruvate peole like your selves not them.. i will buy all your clutches just make me an offer...... as far as sarah, she is my neighbor and sitter, she did piss me off, she used my laptop at my house, i work during the day.. i only founbd out about this because friends/customers told me about this,, hell jnj some of them are your customers or where, kind of pissed off that you dont even know me, and talk smack.. thats the way of the world... enjoy folks,

 

[Jim O]

Well there's a shock. "Ben" shows up and then shrilly shows up.

 

[hhmoore]

OK - here's the easy way to deal with this. Since Sara is in Ballston Spa (NY), shares the same IP address, and is "very close to him" (meaning Sean), it would stand to reason that Sean is no further from me than Sara is. He claims to have replaced all his hets with "pure morphs this year" - I would be willing to waste a little time and make the drive over to see them & then confirm (or deny) that statement.
What say you, Sean??

 

[Cat_72]

I'm still curious as to how he bred a cinny het hypo to a cinny het hypo, and got a whole clutch of normals?

Oh wait, I forgot, genetics is an inexact science.

Or how he produced the hets himself in one ad, and then he bought them all for a cheap price in another post.

I don't care if he's reselling, I just care that he's a LIAR.

 

[Otter_23]

Do you people buy some kind of hand book. Your sitter got on your computer and typed on your forum? Are you kidding me? Do you often live in a world where everyone is dumber than you? Anyone who buys your story and takes a chance on your hets almost deserves to be ripped off. Just go back to not selling to the public (I'm not sure you who sold to before) trust me we won't miss your great deals.

 

[hhmoore]

He hasn't been back on (at least not signed in) since I posted my offer. Instead of continuing to take potshots at him, why not wait to see if (and how) he responds. I am relatively local, been actively involved with reptiles for a long time - including the local herpetological association, back when the Albany Chapter actually did something - and have never heard of him...but I HAVE pretty much kept to myself over the past 8-10 yrs, so it is feasible. I'm not going to bother running his name past other people I know in the area - I'll wait for the invitation to meet him in person and view some of these morphs...see if that talk of networking and getting to know other local breeders is more than just talk.

 

[Otter_23]

I for one won't hold my breath. I'm about 99% certain you will not be invited to see his collection.

 

[Jim O]

Do you people buy some kind of hand book.

Pretty much...

 

[THEREALMIKEMOORE]

Liar

This dude is a liar. I was thinking about getting something from him. But me and him have talk thru emails and alot of ish what he says doesnt make sense. Sean you are wrong and I have emails from you of you saying things that doesnt match up

 

[David Reid]

WOW

Everytime I read a post or thread and think to myself, this has to be the dumbest person ever, trying to become the next Reptile Millionaire, someone even more ignorant shows up. I have said it once, and will say it again. If you do not know reptile genetics, do not try and sell morphs.

Dave

 

[ReptileEmpire]

Mike, which is it?

Yea I get those same emails every darn day. I don't know the guy and I have no idea how he got my email address. But he has a site now: http://seansexotics.tripod.com/index.html

But me and him have talk thru emails and alot of ish what he says doesnt make sense.

Did you recently email him about something? Just curious if he is still sending some of his "great deal" emails, I have blocked his address as spam so I don't get them anymore.

 

[THEREALMIKEMOORE]

Mike, which is it?




Did you recently email him about something? Just curious if he is still sending some of his "great deal" emails, I have blocked his address as spam so I don't get them anymore.

Oh no suddenly when he has been put on the spot he has stop sending out those amazing deals. He says he has sold all his animals already and what i am interested in (100% hets bps) he says their all have been sold and wont have any until about a couple of years or maybe never because he has all true morphs now. Yea right

But yes him and I recently had some coversations via email. I was basically saying prove everybody wrong on fauna and show some pics of your animals and give them a couple of references so that you can prove that you do what you say you do and you are who you say you are. And I got nothing but lame answers. Oh yeah and suddenly he has taken down his website, and I believe in an earlier post Sean said something like s"cammers put up websites then the next day its gone. I'm not like that". But hearing every excuss from this guy through our email conversations. I know do believe this guy is nothing but a 100% LIAR, things he says just doesnt add up at all. To Sean prove me wrong and I will take back everything I have said.

I am only going to post 1 email conversation and I am don with this issue.

From: sean kirk <[email protected]>
To: "Michael M. Moore" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: READ PLEASE!!!
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:44:05 -0700 (PDT)



thanks mike, no i dont think i need to acknowledge anything else on there, several of my customers are the reason i found out about it.. its only a few people talking. i will be posting new pics soon but not on fauna and i really cant give out names unless i have permission, honestly i do about 5,000 dollars in sales a week on average and dont need the extra income from anyone, i was trying to offer perople good deals, trust me i know what it looks like and i expected this from the beginning, especially from other breeders.. i mean come on albinos and pieds have been out forever and there are numerous people who breed so why are these prices still so high, if you want to make real money, save your pennies and buy an albino male and breed him to 4 or 5 normals, all the offspring will be hets, then you try to sel yours at market price and see what happens.. to many people have these... i have made refernces to jane whited at www.mickeysnightmare.com , do your self a favor and check out her site and shoot her an email.. she can open your eyes to a whole lot about this market and the " big timers" you all put your trust in.. back to the pics, my 3 yr old broke a 1,200 dollar camera a whikle back and even then i couldnt take good pics so i am looking into having professional pics done for the website and if everything goes well i will actually get a site going that i am paying big bucks for, i am having it professionally done if all goes well.. i am working on a storefront and having a house built right now.. anyway this is getting long..

as i have said before all someone has to do is talk to me but no one seems to want to take that road , it seems as if these people are just happy targeting people, i have read threads that these people have wrote on before and many many are just goiong after people.. i dont have that much free time..
and as far as scamming, with as much info as i give out, even my NYS I.D number, id be an idiot to scam, id be in prison next week. and trust me im no idiot.. i came from drunk parents and foster homes which i got my self out when i was 16, been on my own ever since.. i now own several homes/apts.. the whole reptile deal, and i still work so i dont go stir crazy being cooped up.. i am 32 yrs old and plan to retire between 45 and 50. look for deals then because i am seling everything and moving to tropical paradise..

sean m. kirk sean's exotics





Okay just 2 comments from this email
1)You do about $5k in sales a week so lets say you do $20k a month. In our earlier conversation you said your pure profit is about 1/3 of your sales. Ok so 1/3 of 20k is roughly $6700. So you telling me if your son broke a camera you can't go buy a $200-$300 camera that will be more than enough to take some pics of yor animals. Even to discredit any of harsh comments made about you and your business. Oh yeah but you sent me some pics of ball pythons this month about 9 days ago..but you say you camera has been broke since a while back and now you cant take pics.

2) Before you took down your website the introduction to your site says you have been in business for 20+ years..hmm Sean Exotics has been in business for 20+ years but you are only 32..

 

[Cat_72]

I like the way he says, "It's only a few people talking"......yet he heard about it from several of his customers.

What folks like this don't seem to get, is that it may be only a few people talking, but there's a whole lot of people reading and learning.

 

[GinoInDaBronx]

pinhead

is there not any update on this imbecile?

 

[THEREALMIKEMOORE]

Mike, which is it?





Did you recently email him about something? Just curious if he is still sending some of his "great deal" emails, I have blocked his address as spam so I don't get them anymore.

Yes he did have a website but now he has taken it down..and yes i emailed him and he also does have a new list here it is:


Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:46:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: "sean kirk" <[email protected]> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: new list 4/20 - 4/27
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "brettwells" <[email protected]>, "Adam Brewster" <[email protected]>, "Larry Briggs" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "dan brownell" <[email protected]>, "Victoria Casella" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "herine chin" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "deb" <[email protected]>, "jessica hope diebold" <[email protected]>, "joseph dubois" <[email protected]>, "lane duvall" <[email protected]>, "Connie Ecker" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Gerald Emerson" <[email protected]>, "eve" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "DOROTHY FRENCH" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Dale Goins" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Stan Griffin" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "big guy" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Markos Hatgipetros" <[email protected]>, "Annabelle Holzbeierlein" <[email protected]>, "lawerence hoover" <[email protected]>, "Maurice Pudlo II" <[email protected]>, "Richard Illari" <[email protected]>, "jane whited" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "jonathon kortes" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Richard Porter Jr" <[email protected]>, "kevin" <[email protected]>, "John Lessiack" <[email protected]>, "KEITH LETOURNEAU" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Tim M" <[email protected]>, "jon mark" <[email protected]>, "LINDA MCBRIDE" <[email protected]>, "Nina Mckinney" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Missy" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Michael Moore" <[email protected]>, "Michael M. Moore" <[email protected]>, "Nathan Morris" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Anne Mullins" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Michele Osborne" <[email protected]>, "peggy" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "rob" <[email protected]>, "r rotarius" <[email protected]>, "Sarah Roth" <[email protected]>, "Scott A. Scherer" <[email protected]>, "neil scofield" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Lucius Serafim" <[email protected]>, "tony setters" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Wayne Stover" <[email protected]>, "jessica strosnider" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Allyson Tokuda" <[email protected]>, "DAVID VENT" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "Brittany Williams" <[email protected]>, "christian wright" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
if you dont see it, ask.. 20% above cost on special orders, my average markup is only 35% above wholesale on retail lists.. i will offer a 30 day guarentee on all CB livestock and a 15 day on all W/C livestock.. my suppliers dont even offer that to me and i know your local petstore would never think of it, we at sean's exotics are for the animal first and customer second, which adds up to great deals and even greater animals for you !!!!
sean/corina sean's exotics
as alway do yourself and animals a favor and check out www.mickeysnightmare.com and make a friend with jane... she's awesome for what she does, any sick or injured animals ask her about... she can either help or point you in the right direction.. sean kirk

Reticulated Pythons(Island dwarf) Cb babies Possible calico/Pied $189 produced by calico/pied sibs
Reticulated Pythons(Island dwarf) Cb babies Possible calico/Pied $255 produced by calico/pied
Ball pythons Cb babies Newborns $25 3/$24 5/$23 10/$22 20/$16
Carpet pythons (jungle) Cbb adult male $265
Red Eye Tree Frogs Adults $32 3/$29 5/$28 10/$27
Poison arrow (Blue Azurus) Cbb babies Dendrobates Azurus $65
Poison arrow (Blue and Black) Cbb babies Dendrobates Auratus $55
Poison arrow (Cobalt Blue) Cbb babies D. Tinctoriuos $59
Poison arrow (Green And Bronze) Cbb babies Dendrobates Auratus $45
Poison arrow (Yellow Back) Cbb babies D. Tinctoriuos $59
Kenyan sand boas (Orange) Cbb Babies $65
California king (Hypomelanistic ) Cbb babies banded $59
Pearl River map turtles 1-3" G. Gibbonsi $65
Tucson Banded Gecko cbb adults $35 3/$34
Tomato Frogs Cbb babies D.Insularis $21 3/$20.50 5/$20 10/$19 20/$18.50
Pac Man (Albino) Cbb Babies $18 3/$17 5/$16 10/$15 20/$13
Pac Man (green) Cbb Babies $18 3/$17.50 5/$17 10/$16.50 20/$15
Pac Man (Red) Cbb Babies $19 3/$18.50 5/$18 10/$17.50 20/$13
Vietnamese Centipedes Adults $15 3/$14.50
Vietnamese Bird eating spider Adults $17 3/$16.50
Amazon Milk Frogs Cbb babies $39 3/$38 5/$37 10/$36
Colombian red tail boas cbbMed $135
Colombian red tail boas cbb adults 4-5ft $155
Colombian red tail boas cbb yearling fancy $135
Green Iguanas (Colombian) Cbb babies $10.00 5/$9.75 10/$9.50 20/$8.25 20/$7
Green Snakes Adults $15
Texas Banded Gecko Adults $24
Tiger Salamanders small-med $24 3/$23 5/$22
Tiger Salamanders Med-Adults $24 3/$21 5/$22
Texas Night snake Adults $23.00
Ribbon Snakes Adults $15
Rosy Boas (coastal) cbb adults $155
Mississippi map turtles 4-6" $14 5/$13.50 10/$12 20/$10.75
Leopard geckos (Patternless) CBB babies Leucisitc $35 3/$32
Green Iguanas (Blue Diamonds) Cbb babies Best quality $12.00 5/$11.50 10/$11 20/$10.50 new borns
Red Ear Slider 4-6" 50/$3.75 $10 3/$9.50 5/$8 10/$6.50 20/$6
Egyptian Lizard Adults latastia longicaudata $8
Fire lacertas Adults A. Pardalis $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6
Spotted Lacertas med eramis olivieri $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6 20/$4.75
Elegant Gecko Adults Stenodactylus sp $10 3/$8.50 5/$8.25 10/$8
Petries elegant gecko Adults Stenodactylus petrii $10 3/$8.50 5/$8.25 10/$8
Rock Gecko Adults Cyrtopodion Scaber $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6 20/$4.75
Sand Gecko Adults tropiocolotes nattereri $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6
White spotted gecko Adults tarentola annularis $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6
Ocelated Skinks Adults $8 5/$6.50 10/$6 20/$4.50 50/$4.25
Egyptian toad adults Bufo regularis $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6 20/$4.75
Egyptian Leaf nose med-adults lytorhynchus diadema $39 3/$38 5/$37
Egyptian racer med-adults coluber florulentus $24 3/$23
False Smooth Snake Med-adults M. Cucullatus $59 3/$57 5/$55
Sand Racer med-adults psammophis schokari $39 3/$38 5/$37
Giant halmahera Gecko Adults Gehyra vorax $59 3/$58 Very cool
Mali Uromastyx sm.- Adults $39 3/$37 5/$35
Bearded Dragons Cbb babies $55
Bearded Dragons Cbb Adults Males $145
Chinese Water Dragons Small $15 3/$14.50 5/$14 10/$12.50 20/$11
Mountain Horn Dragon lizard Adults $21 3/$20 5/$19.50
Anoles (Brown) Adults $3 5/$2.85 10/$2.75 20/$2.50 50/$2
Anoles (Green) Adults $4 5/$3.75 10/$3.50 20/$3.25 50/$2.75
Brown basilisk small $10 3/$9.50 5/$8
Dwarf Fishers two horn Adults $35 3/$34
Flap neck chameleon Adults $32 3/$31 5/$30 10/$29
Four Horned Chameleon Adults $79 3/$77 5/$75 10/$69
Fishers two horn Chameleon Adults $39 3/$38
Giant Spiny Chameleon Adults Furcifer verrucosus $65
Jackson's Chameleon cb small-med $65 3/$62
Jackson's Chameleon Cb adults $65 3/$62
Mountain Three horn chameleon Adult c. Fullebroni $32 3/$31 5/$30
Panther Chameleons adults $245
Senegal Chameleon Adults $29 3/$27 5/$25
Veild Chameleons Cbb babies 1-2weeks $39
Black Throat Monitors med $85
Mangrove monitor Small-med $69 3/$67 5/$65
Savanah Monitors Cb babies $18 3/$17 5/$16 10/$14 20/$12.50
Leopard geckos CBB-babies $26 3/$25 5/$24 10/$23 20/$18
Leopard geckos (albino) CBB babies $27 3/$26 5/$25
Leopard geckos (albino) Cbb adults $49
Leopard geckos (high yellow) CBB babies $28 3/$27 5/$26
Leopard geckos (Hypo) CBB babies $49
Leopard geckos (Patternless) CBB babies Leucisitc $35 3/$32
Leopard geckos(albino patternless) CBB babies $42
Leopard geckos(albino patternless) Cbb adults $50
Fat Tail Gecko CR adults $39
Fat tail geckos(albino) cbb sub adult striped $225
House Geckos Adults $3 5/$2.85 10/$2.75 excellent feeders (fat)
Leaf Tail (Spear point) Adults U. Eubenai $69 3/$68 5/$67
Leaf Tail (Linned) Adults U. Lineatus $69 3/$68 5/$67
Mediteranian House gecko Adults $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6 20/$4.75
Corn Snakes (Normals) med $49
Brooks Kings (Hypo) Cbb babies $99
10651 California king (Hypomelanistic ) Cbb babies banded $49
Amazon Tree Boas Adults $35 3/$34 5/$33
Brazilian redtail boas Cbb babies $235
Brazilian rainbow boas Cbb babies $155
Central american red tail boas Cb babies stripe tail $99
Central american red tail boas Cb babies Anerythristic $290
Colombian red tail boas Cbb babies $75 3/$72 5/$69 10/$67 20/$65
Colombian red tail boas(anery) Cbb babies $179
Guyana Red tail Boas small $155 3/$145
Guyana Red tail Boas Med-Adults $155 3/$140
Solomon Island Ground Boa small-med $59 3/$57 5/$55
West African Sand Boas small Gongylophis muelleri $59 3/$57 5/$55 Egg laying boa
Normal Reticalted Pythons cbb babies From tiger parents $99
Ball pythons (fancy) Cb yearlings Guaranteed feeding $69 3/$67 5/$65
Blood Pythons (sumatran red) CB babies $85 3/$82
Burmese Pythons (Albino Granite) CBB babies $325
Bredls Python CBB babies $255 males $305 Female
Asian Forst Scorpion Adults $12 3/$10.50
Emperor Scorpions Adults $10 5/$9.50 10/$8.25 20/$8 50/$6.50
Tanzanian Giant flat rock scorpion Adults $15 3/$14.50 5/$14
Chaco Golden Stripe Tarantula Cbb babies 1/2" G. Auriostrata $22
Chinesse Black earth tiger Cbb babies 1" - H.Schmidti $35
Costa rican Tiger rump tarantula Adults $23 3/$22
Fort hall baboon Adults $10 3/$9.50 5/$8
Goliath Birdeater Tarantula med-adult $65 3/$63 5/$62
Goliath Birdeater Tarantula Adults $65 3/$63 5/$62
King Baboon Cbb babies 1-1.5" $35
Mexican red knee Cbb babies 1/4" $22
Mexican red knee Cbb babies 1-1.5" $35
Mexican red knee Cbb babies 3/4" $29
Mexican Red leg Cbb babies 3/4" B emilia $29
Mexican Red leg Cbb babies 1/4" B emilia $28 3/$27
Rose hairs Adults $10 5/$8.50 10/$8.25 20/$8 50/$6.50
Starburst baboon tarantula small Bright red and orange $14 3/$12 5/$10
Starburst baboon tarantula Adults Bright red and orange $18 3/$17 5/$14
Vietnamese Bird eating spider Adults $19 3/$18.50
Amazon Milk Frogs Cbb babies $39 3/$38 5/$37 10/$36
Big Eye Frog frog Med-adults $14 3/$12.50 5/$12 10/$10.50
Egyptian toad adults Bufo regularis $8 3/$6.75 5/$6.50 10/$6 20/$4.75
Fire belly toads Adults $5.00 5/$4.50 10/$4 20/$2.75 50/$2.50
Painted Chubby Frogs Adults $14 3/$12.50 5/$12 10/$8.75 20/$8.50
Vietnamese Ground frog small $15 3/$12.50 5/$12 10/$8.75 20/$8.50
Tomato Frogs Cbb babies D.Insularis $31 3/$30.50 5/$30 10/$29 20/$28.50
Chinnese Flying Frogs adults RH. Dennysi $29 3/$28 5/$27
Red Eye Tree Frogs Adults $32 3/$29 5/$28 10/$27
Spear leg Tree frogs Med-Adults $29 3/$28 5/$27
Tiger leg Monkey tree frog Adults $29 3/$28 5/$27 10/$25
Whites Tree Frogs (Dumpy's) Adults $18 3/$16
Fire belly Newts Adults 100/$2.25 $5.00 5/$4.50 10/$4 20/$2.75 50/$2.50
Fire Salamanders small-med Bright yellow and Blk $29 3/$28 5/$27 10/$26 20/$25
Fire Salamanders Adults Bright yellow and Blk $29 3/$28 5/$27 10/$26 20/$25
Red foot tortoises Cbb 4"-6" $125 3/$122 5/$99
Red foot tortoises Cbb 6"-8" $125 3/$122 5/$99
Red foot tortoises (hypomelanistic) cbb adults super sale $4,000 3 females
Red foot tortoises Adults $165
Scorpion Mud Turtle Med-adults $29
Indian Black Turtle small-med melanochelys trijuga $199 3/$195 5/$189 10/$180
Mata Mata Turtle Adults $355
Mississippi map turtles 4-6" $13 5/$12.50 10/$12 20/$10.75
Red Ear Sliders CBB babies $10 10/$8.50 20/$6 50/$4 100/$2.50
Red Ear Slider 4-6" $10 3/$9.50 5/$8 10/$6.50 20/$6
Savanna Side neck turtle cb 4-6" Podocnemis vogli $199 3/$189 5/$185 10/$180 20/$170
South American Side neck turtle 5-7" med adults Phrynops gibba $39 3/$37 5/$35
South American Wood Turtles Med-adults Rhino. punctularia $35 3/$34
Giant Monkey tree Frogs Adults males P. Bicolor $18.00 rubbed nose

 

[ExoticsExpress]

Hey Sean,

Post some pictures of your breeders. Also, where in New York are you, im in New York as well and would love 1,000 het for lies....PIEDS****

Anthony Allis

 

[hhmoore]

he lives upstate - presumably in Ballston Spa (since that is where his neighbor/babysitter/alter-ego registered), and has not logged back in since his last post...though that does not mean he hasn't been back as a "guest"