Info Seeking Advice on Dan Scolardo

[Temporalis_Enterprises]

DTS herp is one of the rudest most childish breeders I have ever seen. He appals me each time I see him on the BOI. If only he would close up shop!

 

[NeoReptiliac]

DTS herp is one of the rudest most childish breeders I have ever seen. He appals me each time I see him on the BOI. If only he would close up shop!

You may get your wish this time. He may close up shop and get jail time on top of it.

 

[ms_ramie22]

Did you use a credit card to pay the paypal with? If so, you can do a chargeback on your credit card.....

 

[DAND]

Your e-mail response from dan was mellow in comparison to the many already posted by previous unsatisfied customers. I'm just surprised dan was able to spell caiman correctly.

 

[NeoReptiliac]

Your e-mail response from dan was mellow in comparison to the many already posted by previous unsatisfied customers. I'm just surprised dan was able to spell caiman correctly.

He was mellow in that email yes but he sent me another this morning. He is terribly dislusioned. For some reason he thinks that it will get to me what he says in his emails. He sent an even ruder and longer email this time. For some reason he thanked me for posting the email. He was under some impression that it helped him some how. Just for fun lets all look at the most reicent email he sent. If for anything - laughs.

Thanks for posting my side of the issue caiman killer.

Next time don't keep a baby caiman outside in 95 degree temps and keep it inside so no wild animals can get to it and harm it. It was a nice touch that you added those facts to the thread so now folks can clearly decipher that you killed your caiman and are surely not entitled to any extension of the guarantee. Where did you get your GED or is that still a goal? And how many times did you drop the caiman on its head? Who knows what you did to kill that healthy and beautiful animal.

I got a good idea to lift what people think of you by now. Why not post your email about how happy you were to receive such a healthy appearing animal and how you were going to post a good boy thread about it? You are not kidding anyone. I know who you are and what you are all about and knew it long ago and find your tactic comical and a joy to teach you a good lesson. For all I know that caiman is still alive and you are just another scammer I flushed.

Why not blither some nonsense and/or some idiotic explanation as to why you have or feel justified to even blither any request for an extension of the guarantee beyond the terms of sale? You saw that other fellows post about the terms being met so you have nothing to blither about. Why not make some smart response to that? You have not and can not. That's because you are not entitled to any extension. And no one but some jerks I proved to be idiots before will support your stupid complaint. How about post the fact that I offered to get you another for 95 dollars and would ship it and you turned down that extension. Or post the fact that I said I would pursue credits with the supplier and get back in a bit. Sad to say that your idiotic and bogus complaint to paypal did not work huh? It did not work because you are a scammer, nothing more, but perhaps much less.

And stop killing your pets as that might haunt your conscious for a long while.

Dan



=) it truely doesn't stop amazing me - how stupid this guy really is. I did tell him I would post a good guy thread for him if he managed to give me a reason too. And it did look fine when I got it. But then it wouldn't eat and died after 3-4 days (died over night). I love how he keeps me on his email block list while he runs his mouth. I guess he is afraid of hearing anything I have to say on the matter. Afraid of being proven wrong maybe? I spoke with these supposed members of the board that think poorly of me. As he so elegantly put it. And for someone who hates me so much they sure had a lot of nasty things to say about Dan and sympathize with my situation. I also found out from some of the others that Dan likes to sell WC animals out of Florida. Isn't that illegal too? Boy Dan sure likes to be a bad boy doesn't he?

Oh btw, does this look alive to you?

 

[NeoReptiliac]

Did you use a credit card to pay the paypal with? If so, you can do a chargeback on your credit card.....

I used paypal. I already spoke with them about it. I plan on doing so again today.

 

[KelliH]

"GUARANTEE: There is a live arrival guarantee on all animals when delivered on time with express service and a two-week health guarantee on captive born snakes."

Was the above posted in the ad that you purchased the caiman from?

 

[NeoReptiliac]

"GUARANTEE: There is a live arrival guarantee on all animals when delivered on time with express service and a two-week health guarantee on captive born snakes."

Was the above posted in the ad that you purchased the caiman from?

I don't remember seeing one to be honest. But its possible. I get a little scatter brained some times and forget exact details of things.

 

[Seamus Haley]

"GUARANTEE: There is a live arrival guarantee on all animals when delivered on time with express service and a two-week health guarantee on captive born snakes."

Was the above posted in the ad that you purchased the caiman from?

That is and has been Dan's standard guarantee for quite some time.

Note the glaring loopholes that allow him to avoid responsibility for sending mislabeled, dying, dead, missexed animals. And even if there was a problem at the time of arrival, the arrival was on schedule and it was a captive born snake, he'd just drop back and claim that it wasn't his animal and that he was merely a broker (it's happened before) so he's not giving you anything.

When a sale goes well with Dan, people get nice animals.

When a sale goes poorly with Dan, people just plain get ripped off. He's as big a responsibility ducking liar as they come.

My advice on the situation... take whatever reasonable steps you can to get your money back through sources other than Dan. If Paypal won't work with you though (and they rarely do on animal issues), then just chalk it up as a lesson learned- because trying to argue anything with Dan is just futile.

And in the future, check people out before sending them money.

 

[Uroboros]

"GUARANTEE: There is a live arrival guarantee on all animals when delivered on time with express service and a two-week health guarantee on captive born snakes."

Was the above posted in the ad that you purchased the caiman from?

That doesn't matter. Dan will say "There is a guarantee, on snakes. Is a caiman a snake? No, it's not you liar scammer liar idiot." So, that statement doesn't matter.

GL from a fellow liar scammer liar idiot snake murderer scammer idiot.

 

[NeoReptiliac]

That doesn't matter. Dan will say "There is a guarantee, on snakes. Is a caiman a snake? No, it's not you liar scammer liar idiot." So, that statement doesn't matter.

GL from a fellow liar scammer liar idiot snake murderer scammer idiot.

Well Karma is going to catch up with him this time. I think he got too comfortable with getting away with ripping people off. According to the WFC he is in a heap of trouble.

 

[NeoReptiliac]

Er I mean the FWC - >.< lol

 

[KelliH]

That is and has been Dan's standard guarantee for quite some time.

Note the glaring loopholes that allow him to avoid responsibility for sending mislabeled, dying, dead, missexed animals. And even if there was a problem at the time of arrival, the arrival was on schedule and it was a captive born snake, he'd just drop back and claim that it wasn't his animal and that he was merely a broker (it's happened before) so he's not giving you anything.

When a sale goes well with Dan, people get nice animals.

When a sale goes poorly with Dan, people just plain get ripped off. He's as big a responsibility ducking liar as they come.

My advice on the situation... take whatever reasonable steps you can to get your money back through sources other than Dan. If Paypal won't work with you though (and they rarely do on animal issues), then just chalk it up as a lesson learned- because trying to argue anything with Dan is just futile.

And in the future, check people out before sending them money.

I know Seamus but the "guarantee" is right there in black and white... he ONLY guarantees live arrival on that caiman. There is no health guarantee. I'm not saying it's right, hell no, but that is Dan's policy. If someone wants more than a live arrival guarantee they should shop somewhere else.

 

[KelliH]

That doesn't matter. Dan will say "There is a guarantee, on snakes. Is a caiman a snake? No, it's not you liar scammer liar idiot." So, that statement doesn't matter.

GL from a fellow liar scammer liar idiot snake murderer scammer idiot.

It does matter because the buyer in this case should have read those terms and decided if he wanted to take a chance on buying an animal with no health guarantee. He decided to take that chance and sadly he lost. He needs to take responsibility for that loss himself and consider it a hard lesson learned. I know most of you won't agree with me but that is how I see it. Take away everything else we've read here about Dan Scolero and focus on this transaction by itself, then perhaps you will see it as I do.

 

[Seamus Haley]

I know Seamus but the "guarantee" is right there in black and white... he ONLY guarantees live arrival on that caiman. There is no health guarantee. I'm not saying it's right, hell no, but that is Dan's policy. If someone wants more than a live arrival guarantee they should shop somewhere else.

Ohyeah, no argument there. Dan didn't guarantee that animal.

I was just making a more generalized statement about the quality of the guarantee itself- it's worded in such a manner that Dan doesn't take responsibility for much of anything.

 

[KelliH]

Ohyeah, no argument there. Dan didn't guarantee that animal.

I was just making a more generalized statement about the quality of the guarantee itself- it's worded in such a manner that Dan doesn't take responsibility for much of anything.

I hear ya my friend, and agree wholeheartedly.

 

[KNOBTAIL]

This whole thread

seems to be an after the fact situation... I really think the fault lies with the buyer here... Its your responsibilty to know what permits are required if you live in a state that may require permits... I am sure Dan is smart enough to have whatever permits are required to sell these caiman. Live delivery is exactly what was offered, beyond that the seller has no further obligation unless he feels there may be extenuating circumstances, but its his call... Boxes that are shippped are not required nor advisable in many instances to describe on the outside what is on the inside.... FedEx does carry Reptiles and Amphibians, but it also requires a waiver or release from a variety of potential problems that can arise from shipping live animals... As long as the shipper follows the guidlines that FedEx requires, where is the problem...

What you seem to be doing, and I think moreso because of the name Dan Scolaro is fueling this entire post by threats of notifying everyone or anyone who would listen to you and expect some kind of sympathy for your own actions that may have led to the death of that Caiman... Had the animal arrived DOA, I dont think there would have been a problem with Dan in replacing it providing the carrier made the delivery as paid for !

I took a look at the ad, and its quite clear in its representation...There are those who will read into these things, but the fact is, had there been a problem when the caiman was received, it should have been at that point to make contact and try to amicably work it out..

If the caiman does not eat after 4 days, yes there could be a problem, but that was NOT nor should it ever be as part of a sale.. It would be fool hardy to think that the animal is going to eat when you want it to.... I dont know how long it may take Caimans to acclimate themselves to new soundingness before they start eating, but to hold Dan respsponsible for that is ridiculous !

So now you have called, FedEx, Paypal, Fish & Wildlife, and whoever else you feel can provide you with some solace about getting some gratification for the monies you lost.... I think had you done your homework before even contacting the buyer, : like starting here ! You could have saved yourself allot of aggravation not to mention the loss of monies.....

 

[Uroboros]

It does matter because the buyer in this case should have read those terms and decided if he wanted to take a chance on buying an animal with no health guarantee. He decided to take that chance and sadly he lost. He needs to take responsibility for that loss himself and consider it a hard lesson learned. I know most of you won't agree with me but that is how I see it. Take away everything else we've read here about Dan Scolero and focus on this transaction by itself, then perhaps you will see it as I do.

I'm all about letting someone learn a lesson. A look at the BOI and they probably wouldn't have wound up in this situation. His "guarantees" are completely ventilated to let anything out that he needs and a light reading on the surface should be enough to dissuade anyone from buying from him.

If scolaro can wind up in a lot of trouble over the permit thing, I'm all for that, though, too.

 

[KNOBTAIL]

The sellers guarantee

in this particular situation is no different then the 100s of other sale guarantees that are made daily on Kingsnake and everywhere else... the concern is to do your homework before spending your money through PayPal which has had its fair share of problems with the Herp Industry... So I am not surprised that they take the position of not getting invovled with animals dying or coming in DOA.... Dan offered live delivery guarantee. His obligation was fulfilled once the delivery was made... Anything beyond that in sofar as some additional consideration could have or should have been worked out prior to the sale being consummated.... The buyer accepted the terms and unfortunately, the animal died within a couple of days...

The animal business has its risks, and one needs to know that before entering into an agreement sight unseen..... The buyer would have been better off in finding one that could have been seen . He chose not to, and that was his choice... I guess thats what these things are always about... Making wise decisions..

 

[Wolfy-hound]

I hate to say it, but Dan did no wrong on this one.
You paid for a caimen, it was shipped to you and arrived alive. I have no doubt he probably has the permits he's supposed to have. Caimen are not native to florida, so he's not "wild catching" them, so that doesn't apply to your sale. Paypal is normally interested only in whether you recieved the item, which you did.

The fact is, you bought an animal, recieved an animal, and it died 4 DAYS later. Since there is no health guarentee on caimens in the ad, or Dan's TOS, it's too bad for you, but you're not entitled to any refunds.

I don't like Dan, and don't like a lot of the things he's done, or posted, but in this sale, I don't see what your gripe is. If you didn't like the caimen, or it arrived unhealthy looking, then you should have returned it, or sent a complaint immediately.