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Wanted Seeking Blue Spotted Salamander(s)

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Title says it all guys! I'm looking for blue spotted salamander(s) I've had zero luck finding any for sale that are in stock
 
They are rarely offered for sale, and when they are, they are wild caught. They occur naturally throughout Michigan- are they not legal to collect?
 
They're legal to collect but I've been searching for days with zero luck starting to make me think they're just not in my area :shrug01:
 
How long have you been searching? Right now isn't the best time of year. They breed really early, right after the snow melts and that's when I've seen them in large numbers. Outside of breeding season, I think I've only seen them once or twice.
 
If they're legal to collect in your area, then (depending on the weather) January through March is probably your best bet. Warm (40F-55F) rainy nights out at the vernal pools should turn up a few specimens.
 
cgrabarc said:
How long have you been searching? Right now isn't the best time of year. They breed really early, right after the snow melts and that's when I've seen them in large numbers. Outside of breeding season, I think I've only seen them once or twice.
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That might be the problem, I've been searching around 3 months now (I started around mid may) sounds like I'll just have to wait a bit thanks for the help!
 
Jgorsuch said:
If they're legal to collect in your area, then (depending on the weather) January through March is probably your best bet. Warm (40F-55F) rainy nights out at the vernal pools should turn up a few specimens.
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Thanks for the help! I'll take note of that and wait a bit to search some more, sounds like I was just looking at the wrong time of year :face_palm_02:
 
Still searching! Would like to start a breeding effort with these guys so if anyone has any they can ship (legally) I'm more than interested, so far I have what I believe to be a male but I'd like to get a nice breeding group of these guys going :D
 
If I find the time I'll do some searching around here. From what I gather, they're quite common in this area, just very secretive.
 
Your best bet is to wait until the vernal pool season gets started (January-March depending on where you live). Go out to the pools at night during or just after a heavy rain, and you don't even have to look for them. Blue spotted, Jeffersons, Spotted, Tiger, unisexual hybrids (depending on location of course) all come out in the hundreds to breed. Road cruising is a good idea if you don't know where pools are, as salamanders frequently cross roads on rainy nights in fragmented habitats.
 
cgrabarc said:
If I find the time I'll do some searching around here. From what I gather, they're quite common in this area, just very secretive.
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Very cool, let me know if you find any! Double check that they're legal to collect and such I've found some states have them protected from being collected, kept as pets, shipped etc.
 
Jgorsuch said:
Your best bet is to wait until the vernal pool season gets started (January-March depending on where you live). Go out to the pools at night during or just after a heavy rain, and you don't even have to look for them. Blue spotted, Jeffersons, Spotted, Tiger, unisexual hybrids (depending on location of course) all come out in the hundreds to breed. Road cruising is a good idea if you don't know where pools are, as salamanders frequently cross roads on rainy nights in fragmented habitats.
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Yeah, I'm trying to be patient but I want to try my hand at breeding these guys in captivity and I'd love to get some going by next breeding season, worst case scenario I wait until next vernal pool season but it would be amazing to start working at breeding them by 2020!
 
ns_dragons said:
Very cool, let me know if you find any! Double check that they're legal to collect and such I've found some states have them protected from being collected, kept as pets, shipped etc.
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Well, if it's legal in your state, it's legal in mine. We're both in Michigan.
 
cgrabarc said:
Are you still searching? They're just now coming out of hibernation here. Saw one yesterday.
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I just saw this but yes, I've been searching during their breeding season with no luck it's odd I almost suspect they're just nonexistent out here now I'm thinking i might just give up on it I wanted to produce some captive born babies for the pet trade but at this point that's not looking like a possibility
 
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