Bad Guy Sellers Beware Nick James of Indiana

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I will be attaching all emails. In short this guy bought a group of baby snakes from me in October. At this time he has managed to kill most of them by overheating them despite being told they are being kept too hot. It has just came to my attention he is on Facebook claiming the snakes are sick. I do not have good internet here at the farm so I will not be able to check back constantly so be patient if you have questions. I will have to attach the emails in sections as Fauna will not allow all in one post.
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Sun 12/22/2024 4:35 PM

One of the female black milks didn’t make it and lost the 1 mbk. Not sure if it’s just bad luck or what not had any other issues. I’m probably sol just letting you know. Maybe you’ll have some stuff this year I’ll be interested in and get a deal not your fault either but they had great care not even in the same rack or same side of the room so just bad luck. I assume they were eating fine before hand
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On Dec 11, 2024, at 12:18 AM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

The temps are too high for the black milks. I keep themin the uppers 70s to low 80s max. They come from higher elevation. I just saw this email. I will email you tomorrow from my computer.
Sam

On Dec 9, 2024 9:34 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Hey quick question I haven’t kept the black milks 2 of them still haven’t eatin the other is doing fine. I’ve read the can go off food this time of year just not sure if I should try something or just wait and they will get back to feed. Normal temps hit spot in rack is about 87 cool side 78-80 normal temps for colubrids. Also had 1 Mexican black king not eat and finally die the king snake is whatever it happens but I do want these milk snakes to thrive they seem healthy otherwise and I don’t think it’s anything
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On Nov 28, 2024, at 7:53 AM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

They are a mix of several locations from different states. The original stock were picked from captive bred animals that were the darkest then bred to each other. We found the offspring from those to be darker and grow faster than direct locality animals. Kind of a hybrid vigor situation.
Sam

On Nov 26, 2024 4:41 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Hey curious if you know what locality the black rat snakes you had were ?
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On Oct 16, 2024, at 6:06 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Glad to hear you're happy with them. Have a great night.
Sam

On Oct 16, 2024 4:47 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Those are awesome but I need to hold off till I find the perfect falsies and giant hogs lol but got my snakes all healthy and awesome tyvm
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On Oct 15, 2024, at 7:34 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Aberrant moellendorffi just hatched today. We also work with normal, hypo, and hopefully our pair of het albinos will prove out next year.

On Oct 15, 2024 6:12 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Got tracking tyvm been very easy to work with
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On Oct 15, 2024, at 4:10 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes planning to ship today. Getting them packed now.

On Oct 15, 2024 2:20 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Paid
407 broadway st Milltown Indiana 47145
Nick James
8124048833
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On Oct 15, 2024, at 3:11 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

That is correct. $1410 plus $80 for FedEx priority overnight shipping. Please email me the shipping address as well.
Thanks Sam

On Oct 15, 2024 1:08 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

I will double check the math in a few minutes. Elbows deep in a truck right now.

On Oct 15, 2024 12:10 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Okay let me do
2.3 mbk
2.3 scaleless Texas rat 2024
1.2 black rat
1.2 black milks
$1410+?
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On Oct 15, 2024, at 12:56 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Man I really can't go any lower on the scaleless rats. They blow out at shows down here. Unfortunately for me I do not have any near me until after the first of the year.

On Oct 15, 2024 11:47 AM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry your 2023 Texas scaleless I know sometimes they can breed at 2 years debating on getting a a couple more 2024 baby’s or grabbing the 2023 to get a little more ahead any deal if I got the 1.2 2023 and still get the 2024 baby scaleless
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On Oct 15, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

Okay awesome. So your 2023 baby’s could possibly breed next season? Or probably 2026? I’m debating on the 2023 group just it’s a little tight and want to put some snakes on my table I would keep the 2023 pair most likely also Venmo or PayPal is easiest for me if either of those work
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On Oct 15, 2024, at 12:20 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

I can do all of the above. I have a friend that breeds falsies. I could probably help you out next season. I can sex the scaleless texas. I just hadn't bothered yet. Too busy cleaning and feeding.
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On Oct 15, 2024 11:00 AM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

2.3 mbk
1.2 2024 Texas scalesss rats? Or they come not sexed?
2.1 black rats
Also if you would do 600 for your trio of black milks?
Was really trying to find some giant hognose and wanted juvie black milks if possible also interested in false water cobras
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On Oct 15, 2024, at 8:54 AM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Here is my list updated as of today.
Thanks Sam

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From: Nick James <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 11:13 PM
To: Sam Day <[email protected]>
Subject:Re: Mbk

That would be awesome. Tyvm
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On Oct 14, 2024, at 10:50 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Yeah I have more stuff. I can email you a full list of what I have here in the morning. It will take me probably until 9 central time to get it done.
Sam

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From: Nick James <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 10:46 PM
To: Sam Day <[email protected]>
Subject:Re: Mbk

Ok I want the 6 mbk. Do you have anything else? My wig and I just started vended reptile expos a couple months ago with hognose we produced and some shows we don’t get so much interest in hogs so trying to get a little more variety to hope help so maybe we can leave all the shows with some sells if a hognose doesn’t. Mostly just interested in colubrids
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On Oct 14, 2024, at 10:38 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

The hogs have sold. I just sent them out earlier today.
Sam

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From: Nick James <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 10:34 PM
To: Sam Day <[email protected]>
Subject:Re: Mbk

Okay. I’m interested in your tri color hog trio. At 1100 shipped and 6 mbk can we fit that together
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On Oct 14, 2024, at 10:24 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

I can ship up to 6 in my standard box. That would run $80 FedEx priority to you.
I could ship tomorrow for Wednesday morning delivery.
Sam

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From: Nick James <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 4:52 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:Mbk

Hey how much to ship to 47145 and will sex some? Interested in 5-6 most likely shipped today tomorrow if that’s possible
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Mon 12/30/2024 12:09 PM

I had them off heat in a room temp at 75 since we last talked. From the start the 1 was eating fine even with the lower heat temps still not wanting to eat but he’s very active always moving around just won’t take a meal is all
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On Dec 30, 2024, at 10:34 AM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

All were eating good. I have three here that are waiting to ship after the weather warms up all still feeding good. I'm afraid the temps you had them at stressed them out. They should not get over 82 for a high spot. I keep them in the mid 70's. They come from the mountains where it is cooler. I assume you got my last message explaining your temps were too hot for them. Please make sure to lower their temps. As to the Black king no idea there. They were all pounding ft pinks. I still have several here with no issues. If you want to cover shipping I will send you another black king.
Sam

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From: Nick James <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2024 10:29 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:Snakes

Hey were these black milk snakes all eating? I had the 1 die and I have 1 female who’s eating fine and I have the male who isn’t eating aswell as I lost a Mexican black king snake. I keep a lot of baby colubrids and I don’t have issues very often so I’m just a bit confused is all all of my baby hogs that have ate are thriving I had a few die this year that never would take their first meal. Just sucks I’m a dad of 3 so losing 1 black milk sucks but if a 2nd goes that really sucks just curious what I got myself into
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Wed 2/5/2025 8:31 PM

lol just had another mbk die. I have literally gotten animals from many reputable breeders I have never in my life seen something like this come from 1 single person. This is absolutely insane. 2 black milks 2 mbk and 2 scaleless rats. These are the only snakes that have died at my house since the past 2 years. I haven’t had a single death but some how im supposed to believe it’s my fault? I’m gonna start asking in some colubrid pages about you to see if anyone else has had issues with your animals because this isn’t normal.
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On Jan 22, 2025, at 10:02 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Nick,
I have no idea what you have going on. The siblings to the snakes you got are for the most part still here and doing well. I know you over heated the black milks. We discussed that a while back. I have been breeding and selling snakes for a very long time. Everything you got months ago was feeding a doing great here. To my knowledge you are the only one who has lost any babies from the species you lost. The customer who got the other pair of black milks lives in Arizona and his are doing great. The other trio are going to a guy in Houston once the weather gets better for shipping and are nice and healthy. As far as Mexican black kings. I had 15 total this year. I still have 10 here that are getting shipped as soon as the weather warms up. I tried to help you out when you contacted me about the Black milk. I explained your temps were too high. Not much more I can do for you from across the country.
Sam

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From: Nick James <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 8:06 PM
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So idk what you have going on or what your doing but I will not recommend you to anyone I’ve talked to some people who have also had some issues with you. I have gotten myself a fair amount of snakes this year and literally your snakes are the only snakes I’ve had issues with. I lost a Mexican king a scaless rat and 2 black milks. I keep plenty of reptiles and you can see everything I do on Facebook and how clean my reptile rooms are I don’t hide anything my customers come to my house and pick animals out their self so they can see how well taking care of my collection is. So save the excuses just letting you know it’s very ironic that 3 different species of snakes have died and this isn’t a good way to do business if you want to keep a good name for yourself.
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Wed 2/5/2025 9:13 PM
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You replied on Thu 2/6/2025 3:47 PM

I don’t gain anything from any of this I don’t wanna even have to waste time emailing you if I didn’t have issues. But I’m not new at this sam so my concerns are very legitimate. I can promise you that a 86-87 hot spot for the milks didn’t cause 6 snakes to some how die when I have 35 hognose I produced this year not a single snake died. Not a single animal I won has died but the ones I got from you 6 of them now. I really just wanted to see who else has had issues because I’m sure I’ll find som people I can’t be the only one lol
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On Feb 5, 2025, at 9:03 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

I don’t want you to correct it quite frankly I’m nervous now and don’t want any of your animals in my house. I don’t want money back or snakes I’m looking for a piece of mind because this just doesn’t add up is all just hope I didn’t bring any crypto animals into my house is my main concern
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On Feb 5, 2025, at 8:45 PM, Sam Day <[email protected]> wrote:

Go for it. I have been selling on line for 25 years. All of the siblings to the snakes you got are doing great. Just sent out two scaleless yesterday. I offered to help you out early on. Well past my terms of service. You had the snakes for a good bit before you let me know you were having issues with a black milk. At the time I let you know your temps were way too high. At that time you didn't mention having any issues with any other babies. I have all emails between us.

On Feb 5, 2025 7:30 PM, Nick James <[email protected]> wrote:

lol just had another mbk die. I have literally gotten animals from many reputable breeders I have never in my life seen something like this come from 1 single person. This is absolutely insane. 2 black milks 2 mbk and 2 scaleless rats. These are the only snakes that have died at my house since the past 2 years. I haven’t had a single death but some how im supposed to believe it’s my fault? I’m gonna start asking in some colubrid pages about you to see if anyone else has had issues with your animals because this isn’t normal.
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So in the last email you can see he is still keeping them at 86-87 degrees. At that temp you would need to feed the rats and kings every other day to keep weight on. The Black milks will stress and die at these temps. I am attaching pics below taken this morning of siblings to the snakes he bought. All healthy and waiting to be shipped to their new homes.
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Black Kings

 

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Scaleless Texas Rats