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guruza said:
The seller clearly labeled the gecko as possibly female.
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Nope. It was labeled as "poss female" in the body of the ad (the ad titled "female chahoua" instead of "possible female"). That one hidden "poss female" is enough for you to overlook all of the other misleading labels, including the title of the ad? What if he thought it meant "possitively female?" I've seen worse spelling errors in ads. If the seller is so honest and forthcoming, why abbreviate and why not make the title indicate that it isn't a guaranteed female? This is the reptile advertisement equivalent of fine print.
 
guruza said:
The seller clearly labeled the gecko as possibly female. There was no need to keep reinforcing it as she obviously thought the buyer actually read the ad. And the seller kept her word by following through with her TOS as many of you guys obviously wouldn't have just to appease to one incompetent buyer. Her TOS are her rules and you cant get mad at someone for following the clear cut rules they made themselves. The seller did not intentionally mislead anyone. She simply referred to the gecko as the gender she believed it to be. She believed it enough to call it a she, but not tenough to guarantee it 100%.
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It was not clearly labeled. The poss female was hidden and easily overlooked. It was in fact overlooked by a reader here.


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If you make your own rules for how you want to do business its only right that you follow them. Its the people that break their own rules that are the ones I wont b doing business with.
 
It was only hidden to those of you who believe the buyer didnt just have a case of buyers remorse. To those of us who are actually looking at this fairly, its there. And making an argument that she shouldnt have abbreviated? really? thats nonsense. Every person whose willing to spend that much money on a gecko knows that poss does not mean positively. Especially since there arnt 2 S's in positively.
 
guruza said:
If you make your own rules for how you want to do business its only right that you follow them. Its the people that break their own rules that are the ones I wont b doing business with.
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People who rigidly, and without considering extenuating circumstances, follow their rules because "lols mah hands is tied" aren't worth dealing with. Things happen. Never taking into account that sometimes :censored: happens and pretending there's nothing you can do is gross.

You won't trust a seller who has enough maturity to understand that sometimes there are reasons that make a TOS bendable? Wow. I have no idea what you even sell but I sure as heck ain't ever going to touch it with a ten foot poll.
 
And if she was trying to be dishonest, why not just guarantee the gecko a female when he asked? Obviously that wouldve made it so this thread never happened. The only reason people think shes a bad seller is because she was honest about how accurate her guess at it being a female was.
 
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This is the ad.


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The buyer didnt want the TOS bent, he wanted them broken completely with a full refund. As iv said before multiple times i believe 150 was too high of an amount but she most certainly should get something for her time.
 
yeah thats the ad. And you circled poss female right on the second line. Its not hidden behind anything, its not an anagram, its not in code. It is right there for anyone who actually read the ad to see.
 
guruza said:
She refunded 150. paypal sided with her on the matter and rightfully so. i agree that 150 is too much but thats not my decision to make. She priced her time at 150$.
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No PayPal sided with her because they don't cover payment plans(at least that is my understanding). Not because they agree with her TOS or her side of the story.
 
If the buyer had taken the time to read the ad, he wouldv inquired about its gender before sending payment. Either that or it truly is a simple case of buyers remorse hiding behind the facade of a misleading ad. Either way this is a case of an irresponsible buyer.
 
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I didnt say i was being bullied i merely stated that its par for the course here. And if you checked on the facebook version of this post, quite a few people agree with my point of view.
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and you would take the viewpoint that farcebook is a more honest medium for credibility than Fauna?
If that is your view why do you keep running up your post count here?
 
No way she should keep $150, I will concede that a simple restocking fee may be appropriate … $30 at the most.


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But i can tell you what the buyer never once said: She never once said it was a guaranteed female. *drops mic*
 
hmm lets do the math
ONE reference to "poss female"
SIX references to female?

Maybe the buyer could have done a better job of reading the ad and asking more questions but I know a lot of people who would have taken ALL of the female references to mean the seller was selling as female and easily overlooked the ONE reference to "poss female"
Not defending anybody here as both look to have made errors but keeping $150?
That is neither ethically or morally correct and tells me she is one to avoid doing any business with now or in the future.
 
guruza said:
It was only hidden to those of you who believe the buyer didnt just have a case of buyers remorse. To those of us who are actually looking at this fairly, its there. And making an argument that she shouldnt have abbreviated? really? thats nonsense. Every person whose willing to spend that much money on a gecko knows that poss does not mean positively. Especially since there arnt 2 S's in positively.
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Financial conditions dictate knowledge of abbreviations? Sorry, not buying it. The only people who don't think it was hidden noticed it wasn't in the title or follow-up pictures or communication with the buyer.

Since you think abbreviations are fine and anyone with $300 must understand them, what am I selling if I offer "def female Rhac. aura.?"
 
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