ok, well to continue, he got the payment and the form and assured me hed get it taken care of, once again citing personal issues...
hey havent heard back from you did you get my last email? thx -ryan
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:15 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
didnt really find what i was looking for at the show, was babies babies babies. im gonna send a M.O. for $350 on monday should get us to the half way point, ill also send out this bill of sale with it for you to send back to me if i get a chance to print it out covering the genetics ect, the one thing is it needs to be signed in front of a notary but they pretty much have one at any post office and a ton of other places, should only cost like $15 but let me know the amount and ill send it with the next payment.
thx -ryan
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:38 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Man I wish you would have told me you were looking for a large normal female. I just sold 14 of them I think and half were proven breeders only once or twice so they were all still in their prime for breeding. I just saw a woma pastel lesser male on KS that I think was reasonably priced, that was a wicked snake. I just can't convince the wife that it's a good idea because we have all those morphs already, just not all in one snake.
Good luck at the show.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:19:49 -0700
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shows this weekend actually, only thingset in stone is a big normal female bp im getting to add to my breeders but im gonna be on the look out for a double codom male, maybe a lesser bee. yeah lol the emerald tree boas and the tree pythons are always really nippy in my experiece, good display animals though.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:27 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sounds good to me, your guys aren't going anywhere so you're fine.
When is the Anaheim show? What are you looking at getting into? Just curious and need to live some what vicariously as the wife put a kibosh on me buying any new snakes for the time being. I want to get into Emerald tree boas but the wife read that they have the largest canines of any constrictor and don't have the best reputation when it comes to disposition.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:37:11 -0700
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memorial day weekend got me messed up and didnt get payment out as planned, sending it out tomorrow so youl have it by the weekend. thx -ryan
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:23 AM, eben horn <
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Completely understandable, I love the bigger shows. There is always something at them that I gotta have though and that's the problem.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:39:37 -0700
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sending out another M.O. tomorrow or wed +will probly send larger payments in a few weeks just gotta hold onto some $ for the anahiem show coming up in case i see something i gotta have.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:13 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx sounds good to me, i get a kick out of feeding off the tongs so thats all good lol
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:29 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sounds good. I got your male to take a frozen thawed rat off of the tongs last night for the first time!!! He was real ginger about it and just kind of smelled it then opened his mouth slowly then when he had the rat head in his mouth he threw a loose coil around it. I am sure he will still take it off the floor in the middle of the night if that's what you prefer, I just don't like doing that in case they don't eat it and I forget to check everyone early the next day. They are doing great, that female is going to break my wrist with how hard she hits the rat off the tongs.
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:16:44 -0700
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thx was actually quicker than i expected, ill send next one after this weekend. -ryan
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:20 PM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
I got another M.O. today, $450.00 so far sent. Just letting you know that it came today in the mail if it helps you gauge how long the mail takes to get across the country.
Thanks!!
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:23:04 -0700
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hi i got the m.o., got it changed and its on the way back, meant to send the next one with it but ill get it out this week so you should be getting it shortly after the 1st.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx, no rush well figure it our later and ill let you know, ill go ahead and get that M.O. out though as soon as i get it to change.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
That works, if you want to write up something and send it over I can sign it or whatever you would like. I could draw something up it's up to you.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:50:02 -0700
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heres what we can do, you just sign a casual letter of intent and send it with the snakes when we do the shipping stating the purchase price and date and that if they dont prove out after 2 succsessive breedings youl take them back for the original purchase and that would do the trick for me.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:21 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
as long as your confident that works for me
. yes ive missed with hetXhet before not fun but happens lol.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:45 PM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
My buddy that bought them originally had the papers but he bought a new house and they got lost some how in the move. After they prove out you will have no problem getting rid of them if you choose to do so. If for some reason they do not prove to be Het Lavs I am a man of my word and since I am selling them as such I would refund you back the money even though I did not produce them, but I would ask that you give them 2 clutches just because hets can sometimes miss a year.
I have lived at this address for years and do not plan on going anywhere plus I have had the same email and cell phone number for something like 8-9 years now, so I won't be hard to get a hold of in the future either.
If they do prove out this breeding season and you get like all visual lavenders keep me in mind about discount snakes for sale!!!
I hope this helps a little bit with the not having papers deal, they did have papers at one point and I saw them, that's why I am 100% confident that they are accurately and honestly represented.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:07:29 -0700
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ok thx, dont suppose you have any verification/sales records for them? i take your word for it, would just be useful if i find myself selling them again at some point lol i remember hets can be a pain. no big deal either way.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:32 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
I got these hets from my friend who got them from Alex Hue, I believe they are from the RDR line. I was going to get them originally but he got to them first, now that I have them my projects have completely changed.
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:35:19 -0700
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oh and i wanted to ask you who you aqquired the hets from originally? ive been out of the ball pythons loop for some time and didnt know if theres so much in regards to 'lines' of the lavenders as say the caramels but was just curious.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx cruise was a good time, was due for a vacation. no big deal, easy for me to change it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:33 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
It is in the mail, thank you for doing this and sorry about not getting you the right info the first time.
Hope your cruise was fun.
Thanks
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:16:32 -0700
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tried taking the reciept to the post office today just for the hell of it see if i could cut a corner but they said thats some long process (60 days) or something so i should just bring them the original and theyl cash and redo it for me so ill do that when i recieve it,
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
ok np send it to: Ryan Leadem 1931 Scimitar Drive, Henderson Nv 89014. ill just cash it and resend.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Alright problem, sorry. I went to my bank and the post office, neither place will allow me to cash it because I don't have the proper ID. They did tell me that I can send it back to you and your post office will cash it or replace it for you no problem. So I have an envelope and everything ready to mail back to you, I just need your mailing address, I can not make out the second digit and be 100% confident its correct. Just let me know where you would like it mailed back to and I will get it out in the mail asap. Your snakes are doing great, the female is aggressive when food is introduced. She hits those rats really really hard, the male is shy and eats off his cage floor during the night. They are really good snakes and my wife wanted to keep them to make a lavender albino ourselves, but she doesn't clean or feed them so.....
Thanks again
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 13:39:24 -0400
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ok just let me know if they give you any trouble
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
I did get it, thank you. Hope you are having fun. i know this might sound weird but I use an alias on my email. Our names are Eben & Shannon Glick, I am going to go to the bank and or post office on Saturday to make sure we can cash the money order, shouldn't be a big deal.
Again be safe and enjoy the cruise.
Thanks again
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:35:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Message about: Pairs and groups
From:
[email protected]
To:
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in the bahamas at the moment but i get back soon
. i sent out a M.O. on monday morning so you should be getting it soon i would think. its a postal M.O. so you should be able to cash it instantly at any US post office but also at most banks i believe.
On 8/3/10, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote: Sounds good to me. Where are you headed on your criuse?
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:34:50 -0700
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thx im sending the M.O. out today, ill be out of touch for a few days after though as ill be taking a cruise.
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:18 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
My mailing address is 1466 Lincoln Ave Lakewood, Oh 44107. What is your mailing address as well so that I have it for the records.
I am asking that on this payment plan that the $250.00 be nonrefundable the rest of it would be refundable if you are unable/don't want to finish it out for any reason. The $250.00 can be switched over to another snake I have if you would like if that does for some reason happen, I am not trying to keep your money if something goes wrong, but I do need something permanent to take them down.
Does this work for you?
Thanks
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:01:15 -0700
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oh i forgot ill need a mailing address to send, thx
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx sounds great to me ill send out the $250 on monday by M.O.
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:46 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
the payment plan on those guys is fine by me, no need to worry about the extra $ for food, I am a hobbyist and only want the best for any animal. I would in no way stop feeding them or feed them sparsely just because they are for sale, all my snakes get fed an appropriate rat once a week, in fact the female het nearly took my hand off yesterday while feeding, good thing I had a large rat on long hemos.
I accept paypal (to the email address you are responding to me at) or check or money order.
Well actually now that I think about it that extra $50.00 will be for the shipping to you.
Just let me know if you would still like them at these terms.
Thanks
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:16:56 -0400
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or just over rather.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:16 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
how would 250$ down then 200$ week for the remainder be? so would be paid up in just under 2mo. +i would include an extra $50 to keep pumping the food to them during that time.
let me know thx -ryan
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:31 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
The het lavs are still available. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Both of the hets eat frozen thawed rats, the female eats them with gusto off of tongs the male eats them off of his cage floor during the night.
i would consider payment plans depending on the time frame, what were you looking for as far as that is concerned?
Thanks
Shannon
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Sorry I did not check my email until today, step son was deathly ill (coughing up blood and horrible throat ulcers) and the wife broke her foot all in the last 4 days.
I work for a law firm so I should be able to find a notary around here somewhere.
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:58:21 -0700
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soon after he stated a date which hed be sure to get it done by, keep in mind im sure as hell not making payments while hes giving me this runaround...
eben horn to me
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I got both of the MOs. We are at the half way point. Have not had a chance to read the agreement but will read it soon.
Thanks
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:52:09 -0700
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ok next money order should be raching you soon, its only $150 but should bring us to the 50% point of $1000, also i slipped in the paper to sign for the genetics ect...the line at the bottom got a little messed up but basically theres a lone for you and/OR your wife to print and sign sincve i wasnt sure which of you would be more convienent for as well as a line for a notary to print/sign/and write id number. its only one page so its easy to miss but its inthe envelope. let me know when you get it and feel free to make a copy for your records ect and just send it back this way when your able to get it done. thanks -ryan
oh after this ill be trying to get this thing knocked out in the next 4 weeks or less if all goes as planned so probably be doing $250 weekly then the +$50 on the end for shipping, thanks
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:46 AM, eben horn <
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Sounds good, hope all is well on your end.
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700
Subject: Re: Message about: Pairs and groups
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just cheking in with you to tell you the last payment i sent with the form was returned, wrote address wrong. theres one in the mail right now though which you should get within a few days and ill just send out another one on monday with the form to sign so you should be getting 2 envelopes/payments pretty close together in the next couple days, thanks, -ryan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:15 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
yikes, when it rains it pours
. sorry for your misfortune, ill get that out to you. thanks, -ryan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry I did not check my email until today, step son was deathly ill (coughing up blood and horrible throat ulcers) and the wife broke her foot all in the last 4 days.
I work for a law firm so I should be able to find a notary around here somewhere.
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:58:21 -0700
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hey havent heard back from you did you get my last email? thx -ryan
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:15 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
didnt really find what i was looking for at the show, was babies babies babies. im gonna send a M.O. for $350 on monday should get us to the half way point, ill also send out this bill of sale with it for you to send back to me if i get a chance to print it out covering the genetics ect, the one thing is it needs to be signed in front of a notary but they pretty much have one at any post office and a ton of other places, should only cost like $15 but let me know the amount and ill send it with the next payment.
thx -ryan
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:38 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Man I wish you would have told me you were looking for a large normal female. I just sold 14 of them I think and half were proven breeders only once or twice so they were all still in their prime for breeding. I just saw a woma pastel lesser male on KS that I think was reasonably priced, that was a wicked snake. I just can't convince the wife that it's a good idea because we have all those morphs already, just not all in one snake.
Good luck at the show.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:19:49 -0700
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shows this weekend actually, only thingset in stone is a big normal female bp im getting to add to my breeders but im gonna be on the look out for a double codom male, maybe a lesser bee. yeah lol the emerald tree boas and the tree pythons are always really nippy in my experiece, good display animals though.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:27 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sounds good to me, your guys aren't going anywhere so you're fine.
When is the Anaheim show? What are you looking at getting into? Just curious and need to live some what vicariously as the wife put a kibosh on me buying any new snakes for the time being. I want to get into Emerald tree boas but the wife read that they have the largest canines of any constrictor and don't have the best reputation when it comes to disposition.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:37:11 -0700
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memorial day weekend got me messed up and didnt get payment out as planned, sending it out tomorrow so youl have it by the weekend. thx -ryan
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:23 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Completely understandable, I love the bigger shows. There is always something at them that I gotta have though and that's the problem.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:39:37 -0700
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sending out another M.O. tomorrow or wed +will probly send larger payments in a few weeks just gotta hold onto some $ for the anahiem show coming up in case i see something i gotta have.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:13 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx sounds good to me, i get a kick out of feeding off the tongs so thats all good lol
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:29 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sounds good. I got your male to take a frozen thawed rat off of the tongs last night for the first time!!! He was real ginger about it and just kind of smelled it then opened his mouth slowly then when he had the rat head in his mouth he threw a loose coil around it. I am sure he will still take it off the floor in the middle of the night if that's what you prefer, I just don't like doing that in case they don't eat it and I forget to check everyone early the next day. They are doing great, that female is going to break my wrist with how hard she hits the rat off the tongs.
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:16:44 -0700
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thx was actually quicker than i expected, ill send next one after this weekend. -ryan
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:20 PM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
I got another M.O. today, $450.00 so far sent. Just letting you know that it came today in the mail if it helps you gauge how long the mail takes to get across the country.
Thanks!!
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:23:04 -0700
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hi i got the m.o., got it changed and its on the way back, meant to send the next one with it but ill get it out this week so you should be getting it shortly after the 1st.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx, no rush well figure it our later and ill let you know, ill go ahead and get that M.O. out though as soon as i get it to change.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
That works, if you want to write up something and send it over I can sign it or whatever you would like. I could draw something up it's up to you.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:50:02 -0700
Subject: Re: Message about: Pairs and groups
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heres what we can do, you just sign a casual letter of intent and send it with the snakes when we do the shipping stating the purchase price and date and that if they dont prove out after 2 succsessive breedings youl take them back for the original purchase and that would do the trick for me.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:21 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
as long as your confident that works for me
. yes ive missed with hetXhet before not fun but happens lol.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:45 PM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
My buddy that bought them originally had the papers but he bought a new house and they got lost some how in the move. After they prove out you will have no problem getting rid of them if you choose to do so. If for some reason they do not prove to be Het Lavs I am a man of my word and since I am selling them as such I would refund you back the money even though I did not produce them, but I would ask that you give them 2 clutches just because hets can sometimes miss a year.
I have lived at this address for years and do not plan on going anywhere plus I have had the same email and cell phone number for something like 8-9 years now, so I won't be hard to get a hold of in the future either.
If they do prove out this breeding season and you get like all visual lavenders keep me in mind about discount snakes for sale!!!
I hope this helps a little bit with the not having papers deal, they did have papers at one point and I saw them, that's why I am 100% confident that they are accurately and honestly represented.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:07:29 -0700
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ok thx, dont suppose you have any verification/sales records for them? i take your word for it, would just be useful if i find myself selling them again at some point lol i remember hets can be a pain. no big deal either way.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:32 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
I got these hets from my friend who got them from Alex Hue, I believe they are from the RDR line. I was going to get them originally but he got to them first, now that I have them my projects have completely changed.
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:35:19 -0700
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oh and i wanted to ask you who you aqquired the hets from originally? ive been out of the ball pythons loop for some time and didnt know if theres so much in regards to 'lines' of the lavenders as say the caramels but was just curious.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx cruise was a good time, was due for a vacation. no big deal, easy for me to change it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:33 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
It is in the mail, thank you for doing this and sorry about not getting you the right info the first time.
Hope your cruise was fun.
Thanks
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:16:32 -0700
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tried taking the reciept to the post office today just for the hell of it see if i could cut a corner but they said thats some long process (60 days) or something so i should just bring them the original and theyl cash and redo it for me so ill do that when i recieve it,
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
ok np send it to: Ryan Leadem 1931 Scimitar Drive, Henderson Nv 89014. ill just cash it and resend.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Alright problem, sorry. I went to my bank and the post office, neither place will allow me to cash it because I don't have the proper ID. They did tell me that I can send it back to you and your post office will cash it or replace it for you no problem. So I have an envelope and everything ready to mail back to you, I just need your mailing address, I can not make out the second digit and be 100% confident its correct. Just let me know where you would like it mailed back to and I will get it out in the mail asap. Your snakes are doing great, the female is aggressive when food is introduced. She hits those rats really really hard, the male is shy and eats off his cage floor during the night. They are really good snakes and my wife wanted to keep them to make a lavender albino ourselves, but she doesn't clean or feed them so.....
Thanks again
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 13:39:24 -0400
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ok just let me know if they give you any trouble
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
I did get it, thank you. Hope you are having fun. i know this might sound weird but I use an alias on my email. Our names are Eben & Shannon Glick, I am going to go to the bank and or post office on Saturday to make sure we can cash the money order, shouldn't be a big deal.
Again be safe and enjoy the cruise.
Thanks again
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:35:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Message about: Pairs and groups
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To:
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in the bahamas at the moment but i get back soon
. i sent out a M.O. on monday morning so you should be getting it soon i would think. its a postal M.O. so you should be able to cash it instantly at any US post office but also at most banks i believe.
On 8/3/10, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote: Sounds good to me. Where are you headed on your criuse?
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:34:50 -0700
Subject: Re: Message about: Pairs and groups
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To:
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thx im sending the M.O. out today, ill be out of touch for a few days after though as ill be taking a cruise.
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:18 AM, eben horn <
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My mailing address is 1466 Lincoln Ave Lakewood, Oh 44107. What is your mailing address as well so that I have it for the records.
I am asking that on this payment plan that the $250.00 be nonrefundable the rest of it would be refundable if you are unable/don't want to finish it out for any reason. The $250.00 can be switched over to another snake I have if you would like if that does for some reason happen, I am not trying to keep your money if something goes wrong, but I do need something permanent to take them down.
Does this work for you?
Thanks
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:01:15 -0700
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oh i forgot ill need a mailing address to send, thx
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx sounds great to me ill send out the $250 on monday by M.O.
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:46 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
the payment plan on those guys is fine by me, no need to worry about the extra $ for food, I am a hobbyist and only want the best for any animal. I would in no way stop feeding them or feed them sparsely just because they are for sale, all my snakes get fed an appropriate rat once a week, in fact the female het nearly took my hand off yesterday while feeding, good thing I had a large rat on long hemos.
I accept paypal (to the email address you are responding to me at) or check or money order.
Well actually now that I think about it that extra $50.00 will be for the shipping to you.
Just let me know if you would still like them at these terms.
Thanks
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:16:56 -0400
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or just over rather.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:16 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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how would 250$ down then 200$ week for the remainder be? so would be paid up in just under 2mo. +i would include an extra $50 to keep pumping the food to them during that time.
let me know thx -ryan
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:31 AM, eben horn <
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The het lavs are still available. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Both of the hets eat frozen thawed rats, the female eats them with gusto off of tongs the male eats them off of his cage floor during the night.
i would consider payment plans depending on the time frame, what were you looking for as far as that is concerned?
Thanks
Shannon
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eben hornI got both of the MOs. We are at the half way point. Have not had a chance to...
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ok thx
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RyanE Leadem to eben
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let me know when you send that thing out ill keep an eye open b/c i get so much dam junkmail i miss things sometimes lol
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
ok thx
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:27 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
I got both of the MOs. We are at the half way point. Have not had a chance to read the agreement but will read it soon.
Thanks
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:52:09 -0700
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ok next money order should be raching you soon, its only $150 but should bring us to the 50% point of $1000, also i slipped in the paper to sign for the genetics ect...the line at the bottom got a little messed up but basically theres a lone for you and/OR your wife to print and sign sincve i wasnt sure which of you would be more convienent for as well as a line for a notary to print/sign/and write id number. its only one page so its easy to miss but its inthe envelope. let me know when you get it and feel free to make a copy for your records ect and just send it back this way when your able to get it done. thanks -ryan
oh after this ill be trying to get this thing knocked out in the next 4 weeks or less if all goes as planned so probably be doing $250 weekly then the +$50 on the end for shipping, thanks
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:46 AM, eben horn <
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Sounds good, hope all is well on your end.
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700
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just cheking in with you to tell you the last payment i sent with the form was returned, wrote address wrong. theres one in the mail right now though which you should get within a few days and ill just send out another one on monday with the form to sign so you should be getting 2 envelopes/payments pretty close together in the next couple days, thanks, -ryan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:15 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
yikes, when it rains it pours
. sorry for your misfortune, ill get that out to you. thanks, -ryan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry I did not check my email until today, step son was deathly ill (coughing up blood and horrible throat ulcers) and the wife broke her foot all in the last 4 days.
I work for a law firm so I should be able to find a notary around here somewhere.
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:58:21 -0700
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hey havent heard back from you did you get my last email? thx -ryan
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:15 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
didnt really find what i was looking for at the show, was babies babies babies. im gonna send a M.O. for $350 on monday should get us to the half way point, ill also send out this bill of sale with it for you to send back to me if i get a chance to print it out covering the genetics ect, the one thing is it needs to be signed in front of a notary but they pretty much have one at any post office and a ton of other places, should only cost like $15 but let me know the amount and ill send it with the next payment.
thx -ryan
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:38 AM, eben horn <
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Man I wish you would have told me you were looking for a large normal female. I just sold 14 of them I think and half were proven breeders only once or twice so they were all still in their prime for breeding. I just saw a woma pastel lesser male on KS that I think was reasonably priced, that was a wicked snake. I just can't convince the wife that it's a good idea because we have all those morphs already, just not all in one snake.
Good luck at the show.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:19:49 -0700
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shows this weekend actually, only thingset in stone is a big normal female bp im getting to add to my breeders but im gonna be on the look out for a double codom male, maybe a lesser bee. yeah lol the emerald tree boas and the tree pythons are always really nippy in my experiece, good display animals though.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:27 AM, eben horn <
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Sounds good to me, your guys aren't going anywhere so you're fine.
When is the Anaheim show? What are you looking at getting into? Just curious and need to live some what vicariously as the wife put a kibosh on me buying any new snakes for the time being. I want to get into Emerald tree boas but the wife read that they have the largest canines of any constrictor and don't have the best reputation when it comes to disposition.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:37:11 -0700
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memorial day weekend got me messed up and didnt get payment out as planned, sending it out tomorrow so youl have it by the weekend. thx -ryan
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:23 AM, eben horn <
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Completely understandable, I love the bigger shows. There is always something at them that I gotta have though and that's the problem.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:39:37 -0700
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sending out another M.O. tomorrow or wed +will probly send larger payments in a few weeks just gotta hold onto some $ for the anahiem show coming up in case i see something i gotta have.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:13 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx sounds good to me, i get a kick out of feeding off the tongs so thats all good lol
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:29 AM, eben horn <
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Sounds good. I got your male to take a frozen thawed rat off of the tongs last night for the first time!!! He was real ginger about it and just kind of smelled it then opened his mouth slowly then when he had the rat head in his mouth he threw a loose coil around it. I am sure he will still take it off the floor in the middle of the night if that's what you prefer, I just don't like doing that in case they don't eat it and I forget to check everyone early the next day. They are doing great, that female is going to break my wrist with how hard she hits the rat off the tongs.
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:16:44 -0700
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thx was actually quicker than i expected, ill send next one after this weekend. -ryan
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:20 PM, eben horn <
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I got another M.O. today, $450.00 so far sent. Just letting you know that it came today in the mail if it helps you gauge how long the mail takes to get across the country.
Thanks!!
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:23:04 -0700
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hi i got the m.o., got it changed and its on the way back, meant to send the next one with it but ill get it out this week so you should be getting it shortly after the 1st.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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thx, no rush well figure it our later and ill let you know, ill go ahead and get that M.O. out though as soon as i get it to change.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, eben horn <
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That works, if you want to write up something and send it over I can sign it or whatever you would like. I could draw something up it's up to you.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:50:02 -0700
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heres what we can do, you just sign a casual letter of intent and send it with the snakes when we do the shipping stating the purchase price and date and that if they dont prove out after 2 succsessive breedings youl take them back for the original purchase and that would do the trick for me.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:21 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
as long as your confident that works for me
. yes ive missed with hetXhet before not fun but happens lol.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:45 PM, eben horn <
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My buddy that bought them originally had the papers but he bought a new house and they got lost some how in the move. After they prove out you will have no problem getting rid of them if you choose to do so. If for some reason they do not prove to be Het Lavs I am a man of my word and since I am selling them as such I would refund you back the money even though I did not produce them, but I would ask that you give them 2 clutches just because hets can sometimes miss a year.
I have lived at this address for years and do not plan on going anywhere plus I have had the same email and cell phone number for something like 8-9 years now, so I won't be hard to get a hold of in the future either.
If they do prove out this breeding season and you get like all visual lavenders keep me in mind about discount snakes for sale!!!
I hope this helps a little bit with the not having papers deal, they did have papers at one point and I saw them, that's why I am 100% confident that they are accurately and honestly represented.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:07:29 -0700
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ok thx, dont suppose you have any verification/sales records for them? i take your word for it, would just be useful if i find myself selling them again at some point lol i remember hets can be a pain. no big deal either way.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:32 AM, eben horn <
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I got these hets from my friend who got them from Alex Hue, I believe they are from the RDR line. I was going to get them originally but he got to them first, now that I have them my projects have completely changed.
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:35:19 -0700
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oh and i wanted to ask you who you aqquired the hets from originally? ive been out of the ball pythons loop for some time and didnt know if theres so much in regards to 'lines' of the lavenders as say the caramels but was just curious.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx cruise was a good time, was due for a vacation. no big deal, easy for me to change it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:33 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
It is in the mail, thank you for doing this and sorry about not getting you the right info the first time.
Hope your cruise was fun.
Thanks
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:16:32 -0700
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tried taking the reciept to the post office today just for the hell of it see if i could cut a corner but they said thats some long process (60 days) or something so i should just bring them the original and theyl cash and redo it for me so ill do that when i recieve it,
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM, RyanE Leadem <
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ok np send it to: Ryan Leadem 1931 Scimitar Drive, Henderson Nv 89014. ill just cash it and resend.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, eben horn <
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Alright problem, sorry. I went to my bank and the post office, neither place will allow me to cash it because I don't have the proper ID. They did tell me that I can send it back to you and your post office will cash it or replace it for you no problem. So I have an envelope and everything ready to mail back to you, I just need your mailing address, I can not make out the second digit and be 100% confident its correct. Just let me know where you would like it mailed back to and I will get it out in the mail asap. Your snakes are doing great, the female is aggressive when food is introduced. She hits those rats really really hard, the male is shy and eats off his cage floor during the night. They are really good snakes and my wife wanted to keep them to make a lavender albino ourselves, but she doesn't clean or feed them so.....
Thanks again
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 13:39:24 -0400
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ok just let me know if they give you any trouble
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, eben horn <
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I did get it, thank you. Hope you are having fun. i know this might sound weird but I use an alias on my email. Our names are Eben & Shannon Glick, I am going to go to the bank and or post office on Saturday to make sure we can cash the money order, shouldn't be a big deal.
Again be safe and enjoy the cruise.
Thanks again
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:35:24 -0700
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in the bahamas at the moment but i get back soon
. i sent out a M.O. on monday morning so you should be getting it soon i would think. its a postal M.O. so you should be able to cash it instantly at any US post office but also at most banks i believe.
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:34:50 -0700
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thx im sending the M.O. out today, ill be out of touch for a few days after though as ill be taking a cruise.
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:18 AM, eben horn <
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My mailing address is 1466 Lincoln Ave Lakewood, Oh 44107. What is your mailing address as well so that I have it for the records.
I am asking that on this payment plan that the $250.00 be nonrefundable the rest of it would be refundable if you are unable/don't want to finish it out for any reason. The $250.00 can be switched over to another snake I have if you would like if that does for some reason happen, I am not trying to keep your money if something goes wrong, but I do need something permanent to take them down.
Does this work for you?
Thanks
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:01:15 -0700
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oh i forgot ill need a mailing address to send, thx
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx sounds great to me ill send out the $250 on monday by M.O.
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:46 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
the payment plan on those guys is fine by me, no need to worry about the extra $ for food, I am a hobbyist and only want the best for any animal. I would in no way stop feeding them or feed them sparsely just because they are for sale, all my snakes get fed an appropriate rat once a week, in fact the female het nearly took my hand off yesterday while feeding, good thing I had a large rat on long hemos.
I accept paypal (to the email address you are responding to me at) or check or money order.
Well actually now that I think about it that extra $50.00 will be for the shipping to you.
Just let me know if you would still like them at these terms.
Thanks
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:16:56 -0400
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or just over rather.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:16 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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how would 250$ down then 200$ week for the remainder be? so would be paid up in just under 2mo. +i would include an extra $50 to keep pumping the food to them during that time.
let me know thx -ryan
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:31 AM, eben horn <
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The het lavs are still available. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Both of the hets eat frozen thawed rats, the female eats them with gusto off of tongs the male eats them off of his cage floor during the night.
i would consider payment plans depending on the time frame, what were you looking for as far as that is concerned?
Thanks
Shannon
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I have not had a chance to read it yet, I have this weekend to myself (family going out of town). I will read it this weekend and let you know when I get it out, hopefully Monday or Tuesday.
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:09:23 -0700
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let me know when you send that thing out ill keep an eye open b/c i get so much dam junkmail i miss things sometimes lol
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM, RyanE Leadem <
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ok thx
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:27 AM, eben horn <
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I got both of the MOs. We are at the half way point. Have not had a chance to read the agreement but will read it soon.
Thanks
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 20:52:09 -0700
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ok next money order should be raching you soon, its only $150 but should bring us to the 50% point of $1000, also i slipped in the paper to sign for the genetics ect...the line at the bottom got a little messed up but basically theres a lone for you and/OR your wife to print and sign sincve i wasnt sure which of you would be more convienent for as well as a line for a notary to print/sign/and write id number. its only one page so its easy to miss but its inthe envelope. let me know when you get it and feel free to make a copy for your records ect and just send it back this way when your able to get it done. thanks -ryan
oh after this ill be trying to get this thing knocked out in the next 4 weeks or less if all goes as planned so probably be doing $250 weekly then the +$50 on the end for shipping, thanks
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:46 AM, eben horn <
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Sounds good, hope all is well on your end.
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700
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just cheking in with you to tell you the last payment i sent with the form was returned, wrote address wrong. theres one in the mail right now though which you should get within a few days and ill just send out another one on monday with the form to sign so you should be getting 2 envelopes/payments pretty close together in the next couple days, thanks, -ryan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:15 AM, RyanE Leadem <
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yikes, when it rains it pours
. sorry for your misfortune, ill get that out to you. thanks, -ryan
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, eben horn <
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Sorry I did not check my email until today, step son was deathly ill (coughing up blood and horrible throat ulcers) and the wife broke her foot all in the last 4 days.
I work for a law firm so I should be able to find a notary around here somewhere.
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:58:21 -0700
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hey havent heard back from you did you get my last email? thx -ryan
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:15 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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didnt really find what i was looking for at the show, was babies babies babies. im gonna send a M.O. for $350 on monday should get us to the half way point, ill also send out this bill of sale with it for you to send back to me if i get a chance to print it out covering the genetics ect, the one thing is it needs to be signed in front of a notary but they pretty much have one at any post office and a ton of other places, should only cost like $15 but let me know the amount and ill send it with the next payment.
thx -ryan
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:38 AM, eben horn <
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Man I wish you would have told me you were looking for a large normal female. I just sold 14 of them I think and half were proven breeders only once or twice so they were all still in their prime for breeding. I just saw a woma pastel lesser male on KS that I think was reasonably priced, that was a wicked snake. I just can't convince the wife that it's a good idea because we have all those morphs already, just not all in one snake.
Good luck at the show.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 15:19:49 -0700
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shows this weekend actually, only thingset in stone is a big normal female bp im getting to add to my breeders but im gonna be on the look out for a double codom male, maybe a lesser bee. yeah lol the emerald tree boas and the tree pythons are always really nippy in my experiece, good display animals though.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:27 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sounds good to me, your guys aren't going anywhere so you're fine.
When is the Anaheim show? What are you looking at getting into? Just curious and need to live some what vicariously as the wife put a kibosh on me buying any new snakes for the time being. I want to get into Emerald tree boas but the wife read that they have the largest canines of any constrictor and don't have the best reputation when it comes to disposition.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:37:11 -0700
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memorial day weekend got me messed up and didnt get payment out as planned, sending it out tomorrow so youl have it by the weekend. thx -ryan
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:23 AM, eben horn <
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Completely understandable, I love the bigger shows. There is always something at them that I gotta have though and that's the problem.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:39:37 -0700
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sending out another M.O. tomorrow or wed +will probly send larger payments in a few weeks just gotta hold onto some $ for the anahiem show coming up in case i see something i gotta have.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:13 PM, RyanE Leadem <
[email protected]> wrote:
thx sounds good to me, i get a kick out of feeding off the tongs so thats all good lol
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:29 AM, eben horn <
[email protected]> wrote:
Sounds good. I got your male to take a frozen thawed rat off of the tongs last night for the first time!!! He was real ginger about it and just kind of smelled it then opened his mouth slowly then when he had the rat head in his mouth he threw a loose coil around it. I am sure he will still take it off the floor in the middle of the night if that's what you prefer, I just don't like doing that in case they don't eat it and I forget to check everyone early the next day. They are doing great, that female is going to break my wrist with how hard she hits the rat off the tongs.
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:16:44 -0700
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thx was actually quicker than i expected, ill send next one after this weekend. -ryan
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:20 PM, eben horn <
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I got another M.O. today, $450.00 so far sent. Just letting you know that it came today in the mail if it helps you gauge how long the mail takes to get across the country.
Thanks!!
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:23:04 -0700
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hi i got the m.o., got it changed and its on the way back, meant to send the next one with it but ill get it out this week so you should be getting it shortly after the 1st.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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thx, no rush well figure it our later and ill let you know, ill go ahead and get that M.O. out though as soon as i get it to change.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, eben horn <
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That works, if you want to write up something and send it over I can sign it or whatever you would like. I could draw something up it's up to you.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:50:02 -0700
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heres what we can do, you just sign a casual letter of intent and send it with the snakes when we do the shipping stating the purchase price and date and that if they dont prove out after 2 succsessive breedings youl take them back for the original purchase and that would do the trick for me.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:21 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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as long as your confident that works for me
. yes ive missed with hetXhet before not fun but happens lol.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:45 PM, eben horn <
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My buddy that bought them originally had the papers but he bought a new house and they got lost some how in the move. After they prove out you will have no problem getting rid of them if you choose to do so. If for some reason they do not prove to be Het Lavs I am a man of my word and since I am selling them as such I would refund you back the money even though I did not produce them, but I would ask that you give them 2 clutches just because hets can sometimes miss a year.
I have lived at this address for years and do not plan on going anywhere plus I have had the same email and cell phone number for something like 8-9 years now, so I won't be hard to get a hold of in the future either.
If they do prove out this breeding season and you get like all visual lavenders keep me in mind about discount snakes for sale!!!
I hope this helps a little bit with the not having papers deal, they did have papers at one point and I saw them, that's why I am 100% confident that they are accurately and honestly represented.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:07:29 -0700
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ok thx, dont suppose you have any verification/sales records for them? i take your word for it, would just be useful if i find myself selling them again at some point lol i remember hets can be a pain. no big deal either way.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:32 AM, eben horn <
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I got these hets from my friend who got them from Alex Hue, I believe they are from the RDR line. I was going to get them originally but he got to them first, now that I have them my projects have completely changed.
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:35:19 -0700
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oh and i wanted to ask you who you aqquired the hets from originally? ive been out of the ball pythons loop for some time and didnt know if theres so much in regards to 'lines' of the lavenders as say the caramels but was just curious.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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thx cruise was a good time, was due for a vacation. no big deal, easy for me to change it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:33 AM, eben horn <
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It is in the mail, thank you for doing this and sorry about not getting you the right info the first time.
Hope your cruise was fun.
Thanks
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:16:32 -0700
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tried taking the reciept to the post office today just for the hell of it see if i could cut a corner but they said thats some long process (60 days) or something so i should just bring them the original and theyl cash and redo it for me so ill do that when i recieve it,
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM, RyanE Leadem <
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ok np send it to: Ryan Leadem 1931 Scimitar Drive, Henderson Nv 89014. ill just cash it and resend.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:43 AM, eben horn <
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Alright problem, sorry. I went to my bank and the post office, neither place will allow me to cash it because I don't have the proper ID. They did tell me that I can send it back to you and your post office will cash it or replace it for you no problem. So I have an envelope and everything ready to mail back to you, I just need your mailing address, I can not make out the second digit and be 100% confident its correct. Just let me know where you would like it mailed back to and I will get it out in the mail asap. Your snakes are doing great, the female is aggressive when food is introduced. She hits those rats really really hard, the male is shy and eats off his cage floor during the night. They are really good snakes and my wife wanted to keep them to make a lavender albino ourselves, but she doesn't clean or feed them so.....
Thanks again
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 13:39:24 -0400
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ok just let me know if they give you any trouble
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, eben horn <
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I did get it, thank you. Hope you are having fun. i know this might sound weird but I use an alias on my email. Our names are Eben & Shannon Glick, I am going to go to the bank and or post office on Saturday to make sure we can cash the money order, shouldn't be a big deal.
Again be safe and enjoy the cruise.
Thanks again
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:35:24 -0700
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in the bahamas at the moment but i get back soon
. i sent out a M.O. on monday morning so you should be getting it soon i would think. its a postal M.O. so you should be able to cash it instantly at any US post office but also at most banks i believe.
On 8/3/10, eben horn <
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:34:50 -0700
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thx im sending the M.O. out today, ill be out of touch for a few days after though as ill be taking a cruise.
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:18 AM, eben horn <
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My mailing address is 1466 Lincoln Ave Lakewood, Oh 44107. What is your mailing address as well so that I have it for the records.
I am asking that on this payment plan that the $250.00 be nonrefundable the rest of it would be refundable if you are unable/don't want to finish it out for any reason. The $250.00 can be switched over to another snake I have if you would like if that does for some reason happen, I am not trying to keep your money if something goes wrong, but I do need something permanent to take them down.
Does this work for you?
Thanks
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:01:15 -0700
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oh i forgot ill need a mailing address to send, thx
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, RyanE Leadem <
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thx sounds great to me ill send out the $250 on monday by M.O.
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:46 AM, eben horn <
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the payment plan on those guys is fine by me, no need to worry about the extra $ for food, I am a hobbyist and only want the best for any animal. I would in no way stop feeding them or feed them sparsely just because they are for sale, all my snakes get fed an appropriate rat once a week, in fact the female het nearly took my hand off yesterday while feeding, good thing I had a large rat on long hemos.
I accept paypal (to the email address you are responding to me at) or check or money order.
Well actually now that I think about it that extra $50.00 will be for the shipping to you.
Just let me know if you would still like them at these terms.
Thanks
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:16:56 -0400
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or just over rather.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:16 PM, RyanE Leadem <
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how would 250$ down then 200$ week for the remainder be? so would be paid up in just under 2mo. +i would include an extra $50 to keep pumping the food to them during that time.
let me know thx -ryan
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:31 AM, eben horn <
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The het lavs are still available. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Both of the hets eat frozen thawed rats, the female eats them with gusto off of tongs the male eats them off of his cage floor during the night.
i would consider payment plans depending on the time frame, what were you looking for as far as that is concerned?
Thanks
Shannon
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Reply |RyanE Leadem to eben
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sounds good to me thx -ryan
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keep an eye on the dates...its as if hes stalling as much as possible, and after this is when it gets really bad...also pls note that after both of the next 2 looong gaps in communication, i only heard from him AFTER sending him a letter by mail demaning his attention...
RyanE Leadem to eben
show details Oct 20
just checking to see if you had a chance to get the form done/sent yet, also was gonna ask if you could give me current weights on these 2 when you get a chance since im probably gonna be getting them going right into cycling, thanks -ryan
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RyanE Leadem to eben
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hey walter whats up? still havent heard back from you.
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RyanE Leadem to eben
show details Oct 24
? still havent heard from you walter, if your uncomfortable with the deal let me know, i could switch to another snake if you have anything else available(any adult morph females), or we could just cancel the deal alltogether, i need to get things straightened out for this season so get back to me thx.
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At this point the whole deal has gone sour in my eyes, apparently i dont warrant the attention of 5 mins of his time to check his email, at the same time there potential deals with legitimate sellers who give a $#%^ that im missing out on and my confidence in these being hets by his word is about 0...so i notify him that ill not be completing the sale with him, citing a number of reasons that seem more polite than 'Your totally unreliable and i dont trust you'...big suprise i still dont here from him and send him a letter along with this email of my displeasure, AFTER recieving the nondescript postal letter he gets on and responds with yet another personal issue not even making mention of the form he was suppossed to have out to me weeks ago...
RyanE Leadem to eben
show details Oct 26
unfortunently i dont think im going to be able to finish this plan out...im having alot of touble getting ahold of you, but the truth is im having some issues here i need to resolve locally as well and this just isnt going to fit in with my plans, pls let me know if you have anything else available that i could switch part or all of the balance to, i know we discussed $250 of it being non refundable and only transferable to another snake ect...so let me know what you have, also could be interested in some kind of husbandry supplies if theres no snakes of interest. ill give you a call on wednesday if i havent heard back from you since your not getting/responding to my emails. thx -ryan
RyanE Leadem to eben
show details Oct 28
Walter E Glick and/or Shannon Hensley, I have been unable to contact you on here about our deal and cant find your phone number, I no longer can complete our transaction, the only other things i would be interested in at this time would be adult female visual morphs, if you have none i will need you to return the $1000 balance i have sent you ASAP, however I am willing to keep with our agreement of the $250 having to go towards something else if you have anything at of all of interest to me in that price range, Ive been more than patient with my inability to contact you...please get back to me on here so we can figure something out, I see no reason this needs to get out of hand...thx -ryan
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:31 AM, eben horn <
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his response after gettin my letter...
eben horn to me
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Get out of hand? I have not had a chance to check my email in over a week, I had a death in the family that had me out of town for a while. No one is avoiding you, why are you not able to complete the transaction?
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:42:04 -0700
to which i reply...
RyanE Leadem to eben
show details Nov 1
i truly apologize if you have had issues keeping you detained. aside from this no longer fitting in with my breeding plans and having already started to cycle my collection ive had a number of unforseen expenses pop up that have set be back financially and have already caused me to cancel a trip to see my family over thanksgiving, now it is looking like i may be short on money over the christmas holiday as well. as much as i need the money now i would be willing to change part of the balance ($250 in the least as we agreed upon) to another snake or even some kind of supplies at this point if you have anything that interests me. please get back to me asap, thx.
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...he makes a few halfhearted offers of a resolution but when i follow up on them the animals in question seem to dissapear...
eben horn to me
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The only 1 snake that I have of a $1.000.00 or so value would be a large female Mojave, she eats frozen thawed rats from tongs and almost looks like a Granite Mojave. I also have a Blonde Pastel female close to or at breeding size (depending on how small you attempt them) and a proven breeder male Enchi (together I would value them over $1,000.00 though). All my other individual snakes are either over $1000.00 value or are part of a breeding group. Let me know what you were actually looking for, I might have it and be able to part with it or find it here locally and trade something I have for it ???
I was not avoiding you or anyone and have always gotten back to everyone who emails me as soon as I can, it has just been a rough few weeks for the family. Not to mention our furnace crapped out last night.
If it wasn't for bad luck we'd have no luck at all, did I mention every single one of my clutches from last year went bad? First time ever having a bad clutch and we had 7 of them go bad, only thing different was i tried some "new" containers, they obviously wont be used again.
Let me know
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:13:17 -0700
im now under the impression this was more runaround as ive offered to settle for any other animals multiple times now in the interest of getting this resolved...
he clearly no longer has my $ and not only does he not offer me an alternative for my $250 down he also claims I wont get my money 'untill he sells the hets'...there was NO mention of this contengency in our arangement.
to be continued in a moment...
