Shrillomn, a brief expose

[Suncoast Herpetological]

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That wasn't a nerve, trust me there.

I see your insane ramblings are rivaled only by your delusions of grandeur, which really is no surprise to anyone who has seen your past behaviour here.

Did I read that right? Wes accusing someone else of having delusions of grandeur based on their behavior here?

We have now seen the ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black

 

[Chameleon Company]

Oh please Rich .... puhhhhhllllleeeeeeeze ...... ...... I can't put them on ignore ........ .... its not fair ........ ....... can you fix it puhhhhhllllleeeeeze .......

 

[DAND]

I see your insane ramblings are rivaled only by your delusions of grandeur, which really is no surprise to anyone who has seen your past behaviour here.

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Hello kettle, this is pot, you are black.

Thanks for the laugh wes.

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Such hypocritical drivel.

Again,

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[Griz]

Bob,
Many are still capable of writing a post with teeth to it, but not the willy-nilly antagonism that Wes still favors. There is a time and a place for such, but it sure isn't most of the time and most of the places. Many of us share the frustrations that seem to have come hand-in-hand with the "new BOI", voiced often enough, and specifically in a few threads such as the Wild Wild West.

With very few exceptions on this board, I think the only people who can walk away from this conversation with a clear conscience are those that were probably lacking one to begin with.

Griz

 

[Chameleon Company]

Maybe. But aside from some discombobulated syntax, rather than debate what is and is not a "clear conscience" or who has one, this thread has engaged the concensus most egregious snipe, and attempted to influence things in the direction in which all others are standing. If "clear consciences" only need apply before anyone offers critiques here or anywhere in Fauna, then everything is instantly both civil and very quiet ....... and its not going to happen.

 

[Griz]

If "clear consciences" only need apply before anyone offers critiques here or anywhere in Fauna, then everything is instantly both civil and very quiet ....... and its not going to happen.

Of course it won't, hence the name Fauna Drama......

It simply amazes me that some people can flip 180 degree's depending upon the wind. You are not who you really are rather you are who you think the board wants you to be at that specific moment in time.

I can remember some of the most vile and pathetic words coming out of a few of this threads participants mouths when the rules were relaxed just a few months ago. And, despite the requests way back when to tone it down, many of the suggesters were quickly spoken over and brushed to the side. Now, some of those very same guilty parties, appear anyways, to have seen the light for the time being. Where the problem lies is when the wind shifts yet again and we get to see a glimpse of who a person really is.

At least with Wes, you know what you are getting right up front. No questions, no doubts, no sugar-coating......... I can respect that a whole lot more than those that are constantly riding the current wave......

Griz

 

[Mike Greathouse]

I’ve pondered whether or not to elucidate on my particulars for quite some time and now with the debacle that is me, I am persuaded that it is perhaps time to “share” some of what makes me who and what I am.

First off, some may wonder what the name Shrillomn means or where it comes from. For those of you to whom Tolkein is NOT a stranger, you may remember a journey taken by Bilbo and several of his dwarfish friends in which they met Tom Bombadil and his friend Old Man Willow. Old Man Willow was a wise but not necessarily friendly tree. One doesn’t mess with Old Man Willow lightly. The dictionary describes "Shrill" as betraying some strong emotion or attitude in an exaggerated amount, as antagonism or defensiveness. Hence Shrillomn.

Now, it seems that some people have the impression that I only want to nitpick and cuss and swear and take advantage of others. Well, you are essentially correct. I do enjoy a good argument, whether the wording be “mom” friendly or not, and it is my sole desire to “have at it” with any and all. There is no method to my madness, but there is indeed a bit of madness to my method.

I do what I do ONLY because I want to or, if the want is not there as it is not on occasion, because I feel I must. The doctors say that the meds will help, but as I already said, I do what I do only because I want to. I seek NO ONES approval. If you happen to agree with me, that’s a bonus and if you don’t agree with me, well, I never asked for your opinion anyway.

Thus endeth the explanation of the motivation of Shrillomn.

Pez Wollock

From it's humble beginnings as an obvious parody, this thread has now graduated to over 200 posts and over 5000 views.

I agree with Richard that Shrillomn has played everyone here.
He jumps in, stirs the pot a little and then leaves. If things start to lag a little, he jumps back in and stirs the pot again. Are all of you really taking this thread seriously? Shrillomn should have called himself the puppeteer.

The effect that this "entertainment" thread is having on everyone here is nothing short of amazing. Apparently, we are lacking any true bad guys to bust right now, (so, let me think), let's go after each other until a better target comes along.

I think everyone needs to take a step back and remember where we are.
This is a forum on the internet. It is not real life and this thread is being directed by someone who has chosen not to identify themself and is simply having fun with us.

Let's keep it fun...

 

[shrap]

It simply amazes me that some people can flip 180 degree's depending upon the wind.

At least with Wes, you know what you are getting right up front. No questions, no doubts, no sugar-coating......... I can respect that a whole lot more than those that are constantly riding the current wave......

Griz

Rock on Bob!! I could not agree more!

 

[Wilomn]

From it's humble beginnings as an obvious parody, this thread has now graduated to over 200 posts and over 5000 views.

I agree with Richard that Shrillomn has played everyone here.
He jumps in, stirs the pot a little and then leaves. If things start to lag a little, he jumps back in and stirs the pot again. Are all of you really taking this thread seriously? Shrillomn should have called himself the puppeteer.

The effect that this "entertainment" thread is having on everyone here is nothing short of amazing. Apparently, we are lacking any true bad guys to bust right now, (so, let me think), let's go after each other until a better target comes along.

I think everyone needs to take a step back and remember where we are.
This is a forum on the internet. It is not real life and this thread is being directed by someone who has chosen not to identify themself and is simply having fun with us.

Let's keep it fun...

Mike, you're taking this wayyyyyyyyy to seriously.

We've all stirred the pot, just as quoting the nameless wonder is also stirring the pot.

If you can't appreciate the humor here, if you take it so seriously that it bothers you, maybe you need to re-think things a bit.

As you yourself have said, it's an internet forum, not real life.

Laugh more, it's good for you. There have been some real zingers here, not all of them mine either, that should have had you laughing out loud. Of course, there have been some pretty pitiful posts by some who really should not be allowed on the net without adult supervision, sometimes myself included there as well but, when all is said and done, this has been pretty friggin funny. Especially the seriousness some have granted to this purely entertaining thread.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

What seems to be most prevalent in the newer relaxed environment is the need for getting in the last word, that last dig, and last good insult. It's not just Wes that participates in this behavior, there are others, some new and some Fauna veterrains.

My greater concern is what the new young up and coming reptile enthusiasts. What are they learning from us? How can we teach others, when we are so busy fighting with each other??

And the best irony of all of this? Pez has achieved exactly what he/she set out to do.....a lesson in self examination. It's a beautiful, priceless, and pay it forward gift. Thank you Pez and Merry Christmas!!!

 

[Mike Greathouse]

Mike, you're taking this wayyyyyyyyy to seriously.

We've all stirred the pot, just as quoting the nameless wonder is also stirring the pot.

If you can't appreciate the humor here, if you take it so seriously that it bothers you, maybe you need to re-think things a bit.

As you yourself have said, it's an internet forum, not real life.

Laugh more, it's good for you. There have been some real zingers here, not all of them mine either, that should have had you laughing out loud. Of course, there have been some pretty pitiful posts by some who really should not be allowed on the net without adult supervision, sometimes myself included there as well but, when all is said and done, this has been pretty friggin funny. Especially the seriousness some have granted to this purely entertaining thread.

Wes,
Did you read my post? That was my point exactly. Everyone is taking this post too seriously. It needs to be recognized for what it is: parody and entertainment.

 

[Griz]

Man.....I still can't find this hierarchical ladder that a few people keep trying to climb. Does it even have a top rung????

Griz

 

[Chameleon Company]

Certainly there is parody, entertainment, stupidity, etc here. Lets not forget that back in most other trafficked forums there is also plenty of aggravation, "rugby" where others did not volunteer, and business reputations being kicked about. So its all just fun, even if the play can be rough ? Amazing !! So put someone's name in an unflattering thead title. Round about post #3 lets just have someone outside the issue, intending "fun and entertainment" jump in with the fun words "liar, scumbag, a$$, theif, etc" when that has not been shown to be the case. Then maybe 20-30-40 posts later we can hope that a few others have thought it worthy to try to create a more accurate and fair picture of things. Not sure why they bother sometimes, having to wade through all the BS.
Google it ! Check up on an old acquaintence including the word "snake" or something if their name was John Smith. Or God forbid you are unfamiliar with the fun and games, researching a vendor, and you find what looks like a train wreck. Google is pretty good and picking up the hooks in this site !
The complaints registered in this thread are not confined to the "parody and entertainment" of this thread. Was the topic of the WWW thread for "parody and entertainment?" Maybe the next time someone outside Fauna tells me that they aren't here because "Fauna is a joke", I can say "yup, that was the vote."

 

[Griz]

Maybe the next time someone outside Fauna tells me that they aren't here because "Fauna is a joke", I can say "yup, that was the vote."

So says the Sam Kenison of Fauna.....

Griz

 

[Lucille]

My greater concern is what the new young up and coming reptile enthusiasts. What are they learning from us? How can we teach others, when we are so busy fighting with each other??

Laura: To address your concern, which is a good one: I (and others here) do try to address questions that we are able to help with in the various substantive forums. Should we do more? Maybe, and if you think so, I'll sure give it a try.

There are some sites (KS for instance) that brook no play; that do not permit one to point out bad guys (as in the BOI) and severely restrict what can be said. I'm not there.

I do ask questions here all the time (I mean, other than asking about the meaning of life, which sure as heck ain't gonna be answered in this thread; or maybe, for students of human nature, it might be) and I get help, and so can others.

Perhaps I will get a denial, but I venture to guess that if I asked almost anyone in this thread for some info regarding reptiles, because I genuinely needed their experience, they would temporarily come to their senses, help out, and then resume hostilities.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Rich,
These same discussions and "entertainment" had been ongoing in other areas of the site for a long time, and picked up steam in a few specific other threads before coming here. In the other threads, they weren't the main topic, and unfortunately just the diversions, hijacking, and BS that is being complained about here. At least here, it is the topic. The concerns, complaints, rants, etc, are not a new phenomenon.

Feel free to call me Rick, Jim. That's how I sign My posts. We already got a Rich around here. LOL

Yeah, I've read a few post around here. I also am smart enough to distinguish whats going on in this thread, and like mentioned, I think you are being puppeted.

See the real problem is that once an individual takes a disliking to another individual, rarely will the first individual see anything good out of the second. Especially when the first one can't seem to get over the disliking, and starts quipping comments to the second. Of course things will escalate. It's human nature to defend yourself.

I hear a lot of this "grow up" stuff coming from peoples mouths, but in reality, at least Wes tried to walk away from some of it via the ignore feature. Just because someone disagrees with someone elses comment, (whether directed at them or not) is it REALLLLLY necessary to post a comment in return EVERY TIME?

So whats really acting childish and which mature? Personally, I see childeshness on both parts, but again, at least Wes has recognized it and even stated such just a few posts back.


Anyway, that's what I think.
Rick

 

[Chameleon Company]

Hey Rick,
I just looked left to the signature box in grabbing the other handle. A mistake on my part.

I agree with just about all that you say, but with the usual addition. If Wes wants to keep those on ignore that would challenge him, its of no consequence. And if I want to do likewise with him, so be it (I don't). But it doesn't fix the problem, cause stupidity between Wes and I isn't the problem. Wes will take any thread, involving folks we never saw before, and often turn it into a mudfest. Take a look at any of the blowups between Wes and one of the regulars in the last few weeks outside this thread (me, John S., Mike G., Lucille, DAND, etc). The first BS antagonistic post in the thread was by Wes, without fail. Either at some hapless poster, at which time one of us came back at him, or after a post by one of us that was in the normal scope of things, to which Wes decided to muck it up. Doesn't mean he can't have a dissenting opinion, but this is a 54 year old man playing kung-fu keyboard. Putting on blinders is not "walking away". He's still where he always was, "flinging his poo". He just sees less of the regulars posting after him pointing out his stupidity. "Childishness" is fine to self-label the tit-for-tat junk in this thread, but its not getting an award for candor. In all the threads in the rest of Fauna, it may be childishness and immaturity as well, but the same words also give rise to "fighting words" as they are known, libel if anyone had money to get blood out of Wes' turnip, and just plain stupidity that frustrates many here, especially the newcomers out in the forums wondering "WTF is this?". If that's what has to pass for entertainment, "thanks but no thanks". So when you say:

See the real problem is ........

.... we're seeing a different "real problem". BTW, your level-headedness in all threads is appreciated by many. Happy holidays.

 

[Jim O]

I hear a lot of this "grow up" stuff coming from peoples mouths, but in reality, at least Wes tried to walk away from some of it via the ignore feature. Just because someone disagrees with someone elses comment, (whether directed at them or not) is it REALLLLLY necessary to post a comment in return EVERY TIME?

So whats really acting childish and which mature? Personally, I see childeshness on both parts, but again, at least Wes has recognized it and even stated such just a few posts back.

Rick,

You make a very good point. There are some telling data in the attached which shows perhaps exactly what you are saying. The original troll who posted this thread aimed it at Wes. Those two are numbers three and two in post totals respectively in this thread, but look who is number one. That is, of course, if numbers one and three are not one and the same person.

 

[crotalusadamanteus]

Jim
We obviously have different perspectives. I agree, Wes can get out of hand, He has admitted it himself. But he is hardly the bane to this community that you and others seem to think he is. Like mentioned, he aint THAT powerful. Perhaps over YOU and some OTHERS because you LET Him be that powerful, but not over the community as a whole.

Happy Holidays to you too.
Rick

 

[WebSlave]

Hey Rich, it seems that since lucille is still a mod, she can't be put on ignore; same for dandy.

Since they are not REAL mods, is there some way to adjust the program to enable those who wish to, me in particular, place them on the no-read list?

Wes, if you are going to be putting as many people on ignore as you are claiming to do so, why bother even to come here?

And to answer your question, no, I am not going to spend my money to have a programmer modify the code as per your request. Sorry........

There is a real easy way to set it up so that EVERYONE here is on your ignore list, however. It's called "banning you"...... Sorry Wes, I just couldn't resist that one......