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Info Sierra73 Using my photos

Received payment :) I should be able to ship tomorrow. I will let you know when I have sent her out!

Thanks! :)

Subject: Re: Mojave female
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:45:42 -0600
To: [email protected]

Just sent money. If you could ship Tuesday for Wednesday arrival that would work better because my wife will be home. Thanks again

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Sierra Dolata <[email protected]> wrote:

If it is convenient for you, I can ship her Wednesday for Thursday arrival.

Subject: Re: Mojave female
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:37:11 -0600
To: [email protected]

Ok and when do you think you will ship?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Sierra Dolata <[email protected]> wrote:

You may send payment to [email protected] . The payment may come up as "Jeffrey McDaniel" (I'm not 100% positive if it will or not, however.) My boyfriend and I share that same Paypal account, and his name is on the actual account itself (although obviously it is my name on the email, so who knows?) Just wanted to give you a heads up on that!

If you could include shipment info on your purchase through Paypal that would be great; if not, you can email it to me. :)

Thanks!

Subject: Re: Mojave female
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:26:33 -0600
To: [email protected]

If I could get your Paypal info that would be great. Thanks

Sent from my iPhone
 
I contacted the seller as well right after the ad was placed. We talked for a while and agreed on a price. She sent me the paypal address and I sent the payment that night. She told me she received the payment and would ship the snake on tuesday. Safe to say, it's thursday and I never received the snake. I've tried to contact her multiple times with no response. Essentially we've both paid for the same nonexistent snake.
 
Here are the emails. If you check the time, it was made the day before the other "purchase."
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Mojave female
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:24:37 -0400
> To: [email protected]
>
> Is she on f/t or live? How is her temperament? What year is she?
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:31:29 -0400

She eats F/T, her temperament is extremely calm (except during feeding time, she can get a little excited - she eats a lot better than most balls!) and she is an 09.

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:50:16 -0400

Shipping will be $37.50

:)

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:53:07 -0500

Through ship your reptiles? I have a couple of questions if thats alright. Do you know what her exact weight is? Is she eating f/t rats? Is she healthy and mite free?
Did you ship her yet? What's up? You have me worried

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:37:28 -0500

Do you think you are going to ship her today?

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:20:10 -0500

I really appreciate that!

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:18:57 -0400

I most certainly will! If you have any questions in the meantime, please don't hesitate to let me know:)

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:17:23 -0500

Thank you as well! Just let me know when you are going to send her so I can be waiting :)

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:15:32 -0400


Sounds great! I really appreciate the consideration, and I will definitely take you up on that offer. It's always nice to hear how the animals are doing !

Just got your payment as well. Thanks! :)


From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:07:17 -0500

That works great! I'll send it now, either day works, just let me know which you would like. If you would like to stay in the loop after I get her feel free to email me anytime. I maintain contact with most of the people I have bought my animals from, and I want to make sure you are comfortable as well.

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:05:16 -0400

If you are paying via Paypal, you may send the payment to this email address. I will be able to ship her Tuesday for Wednesday arrival if that works for you?



From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:02:56 -0500

I'll take her! I genuinely care about my animals, and she will be going to a great home. Where can I send the payment, and when can you ship her?

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:57:45 -0400

Questions actually make me happy - it shows that you care! :)

I will ship via SYR. Her exact weight (as of this past Tuesday) was 1106g. She does eat F/T. No health problems/mites at all; she had a fecal done in June and it was negative. (It was a routine fecal; I give all of my reptiles one every 6 months. Can't be too safe!)

:)

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:02:56 -0500

I'll take her! I genuinely care about my animals, and she will be going to a great home. Where can I send the payment, and when can you ship her?
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:05:16 -0400

If you are paying via Paypal, you may send the payment to this email address. I will be able to ship her Tuesday for Wednesday arrival if that works for you?
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:07:17 -0500

That works great! I'll send it now, either day works, just let me know which you would like. If you would like to stay in the loop after I get her feel free to email me anytime. I maintain contact with most of the people I have bought my animals from, and I want to make sure you are comfortable as well.
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:15:32 -0400


Sounds great! I really appreciate the consideration, and I will definitely take you up on that offer. It's always nice to hear how the animals are doing !

Just got your payment as well. Thanks! :)
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Mojave female
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:17:23 -0500

Thank you as well! Just let me know when you are going to send her so I can be waiting :)
 
Tito have you received a snake this morning?

Lindsey, can you post proof of purchasing this snake.

This situation is bound to suck = /
 
haha posted at the same time Lindsey...if you can grab a screenshot of your paypal to show you paid for her that would be good too.

I'd do a charge back quick at this point
 
Nope still haven't received a snake and don't plan on it either. My wife talked to bank they said the don't do a charge back but I could come in and file a complaint. She has been trying to work with PayPal as well to see what we can do.
 
Both of you need to continue with paypal and make sure the account gets flagged. You can point them to this thread as well. Explain they sold a specific singular item to multiple people.

As for your bank, I have heard this from multiple people that specific banks and credit card companies refusing charge-backs and any help for customers who have been scammed lately. I'd push the issue with them. I deal with a local bank where I have assurances that they value my business and will help in situations like this that may occur.



So far we have

Sierra73
[email protected]
Sierra Dolata
St. Louis, Missouri

The name
Jeffery McDonald

Was the PayPal account verified?

If you can post the full headers from the email exchanges so people can see the ISP in the emails?
 
Wow, I hope everyone can get their money back ok. This Sierra73 name sounds so familiar, I feel like there was an issue associated with that name once before, I'm going to do some digging.
 
I'm sorry I said McDonald when in fact it is Jeffery mcdaniels. PayPal has put a hold on the funds. It looks like Sierra 73 has been viewing this forum. They are going to do some searching and go after the person.
 
There was an issue once before with another member here named Sierra, was a wonky story, but I dont think anyone was actually scammed...at this point I don't believe I am seeing any connections between the two members other then their Fauna user names
 
Ok that might be what I was thinking of then since my digging hasn't turned up anything yet.
 
PMed you =) since I don't want to send this thread into a random direction

I really hope everything gets sorted out here...I will be shocked if we hear from the seller in question. Would be nice tho
 
We are just sorry because ...

...our photo has been used in this scam.
At this point it sure looks like a scam.
The sweet spot of the market. Females with good size and priced cheap.

To help deter this from happening in the future, we are going to start placing a watermark right on the animal in the photo.

We really hope everyone gets their funds back and this person is caught.
 
Did they refund you all of your money or did they just put a freeze on the funds? I have received anything they just said they out a freeze on the funds for now.
 
To all people involved in buying animals online .I personally ask for photos with random items in them (mountain dew cans ,that days paper ,ECT,ect) for a little more peace of mind .Anyone selling a legit animal should have no problem sending a photo with requested items .Anyone who won't is probably a scam..In this day of camera phones almost anyone should be able to send you a photo to your phone or email instantly..I'm not saying it will get rid of them all but will weed out alot of scammers..Ps sorry any of you got scammed in the first place.
 
We are sorry people got scammed.
We are happy a refund has been issued in this scam.
Hopefully the remaining refund will come soon.

We all have to keep an eye out for scammers like this.

When we all share information, it helps everyone.

Thank you for everyones help.
 
Definitely a fraud

I think the evidence is plentiful to ensure this is a scam, so I wont bother posting all of my own proof.

I too purchased this non-existent animal, and of course did not receive it. I went to Chase Bank today and they said they'd be able to return my money. I gave them a copy of my PayPal receipt, email transcript, original post, as well as a copy of this forum thread.

Jeffrey McDaniel is the name on the PayPal account- do not

I feel like a dummy- I knew the price was too good to be true, even did a check of the username before I sent the payment, unfortunately this thread was not up yet. Lesson learned! Props to Chase Bank for having such a kick-:censored: fraud relief program.

-Colin Thompson
Colin Thompson Reptiles
 
yogie2 said:
I think the evidence is plentiful to ensure this is a scam, so I wont bother posting all of my own proof.

I too purchased this non-existent animal, and of course did not receive it. I went to Chase Bank today and they said they'd be able to return my money. I gave them a copy of my PayPal receipt, email transcript, original post, as well as a copy of this forum thread.

Jeffrey McDaniel is the name on the PayPal account- do not

I feel like a dummy- I knew the price was too good to be true, even did a check of the username before I sent the payment, unfortunately this thread was not up yet. Lesson learned! Props to Chase Bank for having such a kick-:censored: fraud relief program.

-Colin Thompson
Colin Thompson Reptiles
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Does that mean Chase will pursue criminal or civil actions against the persons involved?
 
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