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Cold hearted!
What the heck do you think you guys are?
Ive said it once and Ill say it again.......Judge and F'in Jury!!
I dont care if you all think Im an A$$ Hole. I research a crap load on dragons and I dont give a darn what you guys think you have learnt! When ANY of you have done the research on as many reptiles as I, question me! Untill then, do more research before you go off looking like a$$es. There are a lot more people reading this then you think. ( I tried watching my mouth for Walker)

Not one of you are in postion to judge. A red dragon is an under par dragon! A yellow dragon is an under par dragon. Ask around. Where did it all start? Where is it now? Read and ask before you voice an opinion.

Jim
 
JimD said:
Cold hearted!
What the heck do you think you guys are?
Ive said it once and Ill say it again.......Judge and F'in Jury!!
I dont care if you all think Im an A$$ Hole. I research a crap load on dragons and I dont give a darn what you guys think you have learnt! When ANY of you have done the research on as many reptiles as I, question me! Untill then, do more research before you go off looking like a$$es. There are a lot more people reading this then you think. ( I tried watching my mouth for Walker)

Not one of you are in postion to judge. A red dragon is an under par dragon! A yellow dragon is an under par dragon. Ask around. Where did it all start? Where is it now? Read and ask before you voice an opinion.

Jim
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There is absolutely nothing cold hearted about caring for the health and welfare of these animals.
As far as who I "think" I am, I'm someone who cares enough about the animals in my care to try to protect and preserve this species.
You're a good little soldier Jim, you do any research necessary to preserve your income, but god forbid someone question you.
Back to genetics Jim. What exact marker of the DNA is altered to create this animal and what other natural traits does it affect? Until you can answer that question, you simply know nothing except you think it looks "cool". Not exactly a sound scientific conclusion.
 
JimD said:
Cold hearted!
What the heck do you think you guys are?
Ive said it once and Ill say it again.......Judge and F'in Jury!!
I dont care if you all think Im an A$$ Hole. I research a crap load on dragons and I dont give a darn what you guys think you have learnt! When ANY of you have done the research on as many reptiles as I, question me! Untill then, do more research before you go off looking like a$$es. There are a lot more people reading this then you think. ( I tried watching my mouth for Walker)

Not one of you are in postion to judge. A red dragon is an under par dragon! A yellow dragon is an under par dragon. Ask around. Where did it all start? Where is it now? Read and ask before you voice an opinion.

Jim
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Well, I can assure that there are only four people interested in this subject that are cold-hearted enough to post what you just did. You take the cake. Got first prize. Proud of yourself?

Maybe you should have researched and found out how badly manipulated and brainwashed you are, and how you're bought and paid for?
 
Came back negative!!!!!!!
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They came back negative? Really?

Well, I guess then we should be asking you the way Denise was asked.....where's the proof? Who did the testing? Now don't lie to us, where did you get that test done at? Why won't you tell us where you got your tests done.......

This should be another thread....even a
BOI if he doesn't let us know....it's our God given right to know, right???
 
JimD said:
Cold hearted!
What the heck do you think you guys are?
Ive said it once and Ill say it again.......Judge and F'in Jury!!


Jim

When one loses a pet or two from adeno and recently btw yes it is a tad cold hearted of you...

As far as research I shall continue on my own but I do be,ieve that denisebeme as asked You very good questions that you have not answered.

So can and will you answer these you may have to go back and re read some posts
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Again you guys are showing me you dont read or pay attention.
I love reptiles of all kinds. If an anole dies I feel bad. I spend a lot of money on ALL of my wife and my dragons. We own dragons with half tails because of tail rot, dragons with one eye because of abseses behind the eye and have had necropies done on any dragon that may have died.
To call me cold hearted because I have strong views, fine. When any of you can say you have done more for your reptile pets or researched more into reptiles of all sorts. I will concede. Untill you really know what my wife and I are about, dont judge.

Jim
 
JimD, you don't have a clue as to what we've researched and we certainly don't know if you've researched anything at all...so put your ego away and quit ASSuming anything. :rolleyes:
 
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They came back negative? Really?

Well, I guess then we should be asking you the way Denise was asked.....where's the proof? Who did the testing? Now don't lie to us, where did you get that test done at? Why won't you tell us where you got your tests done.......

This should be another thread....even a
BOI if he doesn't let us know....it's our God given right to know, right???
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LOL! I wish they had asked so nice. Isn't it funny that the only one of the people who thought it was such a good idea to drag my name through the mud over a very long weekend, only to find out later that I was completely truthful all along was Bobby Hill?
Believe me when I say that you only saw the tip of the iceberg on the BOI, what went on behind the scenes was way more vicious.
In the end, they are going to try to turn this into another AV thread, and it isn't even close to the same thing. Hopefully we'll be able to get a mod paying attention to this thread soon to end the nasty personal attacks.
 
JimD said:
Again you guys are showing me you dont read or pay attention.
I love reptiles of all kinds. If an anole dies I feel bad. I spend a lot of money on ALL of my wife and my dragons. We own dragons with half tails because of tail rot, dragons with one eye because of abseses behind the eye and have had necropies done on any dragon that may have died.
To call me cold hearted because I have strong views, fine. When any of you can say you have done more for your reptile pets or researched more into reptiles of all sorts. I will concede. Untill you really know what my wife and I are about, dont judge.

Jim
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What you wrote to Tere did not come from a man who loves reptiles. You were chiding her in the worst way, when she's had so many losses. And I know for a fact those losses devistated her. You couldn't have said anything more cruel to her. So no, I don't believe that you are a kind hearted man. Far from it.
 
whiskersmom said:
They came back negative? Really?

Well, I guess then we should be asking you the way Denise was asked.....where's the proof? Who did the testing? Now don't lie to us, where did you get that test done at? Why won't you tell us where you got your tests done.......

This should be another thread....even a
BOI if he doesn't let us know....it's our God given right to know, right???
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Maybe we should start calling all the vets and labs in his area, harassing them all so badly, he'll be lucky he has a vet anymore?

But you know what, girls? With his own words, he proved a very good point.

ADENOVIRUS IS NOT IN ALL BEARDED DRAGONS, or his dragons would have it, too, right?

Thanks, Jim.
 
JimD said:
Again you guys are showing me you dont read or pay attention.
I love reptiles of all kinds. If an anole dies I feel bad. I spend a lot of money on ALL of my wife and my dragons. We own dragons with half tails because of tail rot, dragons with one eye because of abseses behind the eye and have had necropies done on any dragon that may have died.
To call me cold hearted because I have strong views, fine. When any of you can say you have done more for your reptile pets or researched more into reptiles of all sorts. I will concede. Untill you really know what my wife and I are about, dont judge.

Jim
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Quit stretching Jim and take responsibility for your posts. You were called cold hearted because you used the death of someones pets to launch a personal attack, not because of your opinions.
Don't expect any of us to have opinions that are LESS strong than yours. You might not like it, but we have every RIGHT to be concerned about these animals, it could even be argued that as serious hobbyists, we have a RESPONSIBILITY to be concerned and to voice those concerns.
Now, do you have the answers to the questions I asked about genetics or NOT?
 
So all I need is some proof that I had a dead dragon tested for Adeno along with other tests you all may take me serious!
Good Lord! Please just one of you say yes and Ill have it up tomorrow!
If my character is in question I will be happy to apease you.
Jim
 
Your character is no longer in question.




Denise asked you a question about genetics....as for me, you've answered all the questions I care to read.
 
JimD said:
So all I need is some proof that I had a dead dragon tested for Adeno along with other tests you all may take me serious!
Good Lord! Please just one of you say yes and Ill have it up tomorrow!
If my character is in question I will be happy to apease you.
Jim
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No, your character will always be in question after what you said.

But please do feel free to post those results, Jim. It's my understanding that the researchers are looking for negative colonies. Somehow, they got the impression none existed.
 
JimD said:
So all I need is some proof that I had a dead dragon tested for Adeno along with other tests you all may take me serious!
Good Lord! Please just one of you say yes and Ill have it up tomorrow!
If my character is in question I will be happy to apease you.
Jim
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I have absolutely no questions about your character, you have already gone out of your way to prove you lack any.
It was nice to see that you finally have all the evidence you need to know that AV is not something that all dragons have, its just sad it took the death of one to prove that to you.
Don't worry about appeasing me. I'm pretty content that if people really have questions about who you are, they can come right here to fauna and find out for themselves.
Now, back to those questions about genetics.....
 
Now, do you have the answers to the questions I asked about genetics or NOT?
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Hey Jim

Can you answer these questions OR continue to stall
 
We have all losts pets. Some more than others. No matter how many you may lose it doesnt make it easier.
I do know a Zooligist. He is finishing his masters as we speak. I also deal with friends of his in the bioligy lab.
As for my Vet, Im sure if you called in a nice way she would be happy to speak with any of you. She would also back the way my wife and I take care of our animals and the animals we sell.
Im glad you caught the fact that I had a dragon that tested negitive for AV. You all had a great time bashing those who accepted the fact that they had or felt they had AV. Just shows that no one can feel safe because I even stated in other posts I felt I had it.

Jim
 
Ladies Ladies Ladies!
Ive never had so mush attention.
Im not a Biologist.
No I can not answer all you questions on this. I can for sure ask someone to answer them. Make a list and I will be sure to get you answers.
As for you all thinking that there are AV neg colonies, give your head a shake! I have dragons from known AV breeders. It shows that neg results are so GOD darn inconclusive that no one really knows. I can show results if youd like. It will also show that what they thought caused the death was something that has only been found in snakes. This would be the first case ever found in Bearded dragons.

Im gonna go to bed but Im sure you will all have a lot to say still so I will happily check back in the morning. I hope you all have a good late night and sleep in so you can all be in a happy mood tomorrow.

Jim
 
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