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alessandro, could I ask if you've bred the silkbacks yet? Or are they too young? I'd be interested in both how they fare in breeding activity, and also look forward to the husbadry post you mentioned.
I understand co-dom traits(from my ball pythons) and I can't see that the line would be considered "inbred" if you did all that outcrossing. If the dragon is able to live in close to normal circumtances, and reproduce, then what would be the issues with it? I'm assuming that none have the AV(which should be a seperate subject).
Wolfy
 
to me is not happened because i keep record of all my animals and even if i buy new animals from the same breeder i always breed them with unrelated ones. it takes more time to have a result but then i don't have problem. but i have talked to several vet that have several record. in italy there are several people who buy 2 brothers and the next year they try to brred them. and then there are problems...tail angled, few egg, poor fertility rate....i receive every year several call asking me why....there are lot of people who start with bearded dragon wth a really poor knowledge.
alessandro
 
O.K. Thanks. I was under the impression that there was a certain amount of inbreeding to create the line, so that is why I asked. That is great that you did not see any deformities. I appreciate your time and directness with answering the questions.
 
Hello

Hello Alessandro,

I am looking forward to hearing your information on the husbandry. It was to our thinking that they could not bask at the temperatures that the normal bearded dragons, could, etc, due to their lack of scales. We just need confirmation of care, & how to determine the best UVB lighting for them, without harming them.
That is good news you have not had any physical deformities as of currently. I as well, as interested to know if they would inherit any type of genetic problems too, since this is a genetic mutation that is not normally in most bearded dragons. It definitely would be wise to strengthen those lines because taking a non-normal mutation which could cause problems would complicate things alot.
The dragons here in the US already have alot of problems as it is, & we need to strengthen the genepool here.
Thank you for answering our questions. We all appreciate it.

Tracie
 
"With less basking time do they ever not digest there food?
Have you ever had MBD or calcium problems with silkbacks?
If you try to breed them or if you have do you worry about their neck tearing?"

"crazidude you are claiming things that they are not true... do i said they have less basking time??? as i said i will explain exactly everything inside the husbandry section but i can anticipate that you will not find so many differences comparing to the care of a normal bearded dragon."


Sorry Alessandro I was going off Dachiu's site on there care. I'm sure you have the link but ill post it again anyways, I don't want to copy and paste what they said because I don't know how to correctly quote it.
http://www.dachiu.com/projects.html

Originally we were talking about Dachiu in terms of silkbacks until you came and started answering questions. So I am looking forward to hearing more.

Just one last question for any breeder or person that knows then I'm done until the husbandry part.

With line/inbreeding is there any underling problems that are not physical and are not noticed right away like more susceptibility to parasites or anything that you can not tell from just looking at them?

Thanks again for your time.
 
ok here it is the section on husbandry, i hope it will be clear, but first i want to answer again to crazidude
"With line/inbreeding is there any underling problems that are not physical and are not noticed right away like more susceptibility to parasites or anything that you can not tell from just looking at them?"
such a thing should not be a problem with silkback but with every reptiles, i think you are triing to find the bad thing in any way you can. i suppose you haven't never buyied two animals from the same breeder unless he assured you that they were completely unrelated. of course i am only joking :D , that was to let you understand that, and i suppose lot of people, when i have bought my first pair of bearded dragon i wasn't aware of the imbreeding problem. i have bought a trio and then i bred them, and i have sold the babies :reddevil: . only later with the increase of knowledge i have understood what could be the problem and i went over to buy another trio to cross with the other, and that was my start as a breeder (15 years ago). but inbreeding problem, i have read somewhere, they will be visible anly after 3 or 4 generation (i need to find this paper, take it not for sure). :thumbsup:


Husbandry
I normally keep the silkback like I keep my other dragon. Here is what I do. I normally keep my animals in a way they could go over the lamp to heat them up but I always give them a place where the temp is lower. On EACH cage there is a zoomed uvb 5.0. I DO HAVE LOT OF ATTENTION THAT THE CAGE ARE WELL VENTILATED. I keep babies in a box which is 50 x 30 the spot being in the first third, I keep the adult separate from female and they are all in cages 90x70x46 (cm not inches), the spot in the first third. In each cage there is one male OR 2 female. It is for that reason that I cannot keep too many animals and for that reason I shared the project with dachiu. When is breeding time I move the female that I want to breed n the cage of the male. Over the spot I do have 34 degree with a thermostat. On the other side there is a temp during the day that range from 27 to 30. in the night I switch off everything, the temp going slowly to 20-22.
Now…what is changed with silkback??
Nothing, the only thing I noticed is that they reach quicker the right body temp. so for the babies I sprayed them instead of one time x day, 2 times per day not because they need it but because I am scared they get dehidratated, and I want to prevent instead of treat it. The adult I do not spray them but I give them always available fresh water (which they don’t use that much…..but…just in case). It is important for them to have a place with lower temp….then…. they are animals and they exactly know where they should go….THEY TERMOREGULATE BY THEMSELVES. They eat like the other and the do shit like the other (lot of work to do). I feed them with roaches, cricket, mealworm, and of course vegetable.
This year I have tried to put them on the sun, and it is the same thing….when they reach the right temp they move to a place with no sun. I have tested them with “normal” pogona and the result was just that the silkback move first in search of food!!!!
About the skin they do not have any problem, it is not fragile…so I do not do anything special. I only noticed that they go on shedding more time.
As far as I know I think dachiu are doing the same thing I am doing.

If I haven’t answer to all the question I will be glad to do it. I am starting to write down my personal observation on breeding silkback. So about this section please be patient.
alessandro
 
Allessandro,

Thank you for taking the time to come here and end some of the speculation regarding your silkbacks. Unfortunately some people like to assume the worst about a situation, before they even take time to do any real research. It sounds to me like you are a caring and responsible breeder. I look forward to hearing more about your silkback project in the future. :)

Jamie
 
Alessandro, I am guessing part of the reason that people are so concerned about modified husbandry is because of Dachiu's description of the silkback on her page. It makes it sound like they do require special care. Sometimes a little information is dangerous because people by nature try to fill in the blanks. Thank you for coming and providing complete info. I did have one more question that came to mind. How many years has it been since you hatched out your first silkback and how many generations have been produced since? Thank you.

Wendy
 
Hello Alessandro. I have a few observations in regards to the info you provided on the silkback's husbandry. You have to remember that we are comparing it to our husbandry practices here in the U.S. For the most part, people try and keep hatchlings and juveniles at 105-110 degrees Fahrenheit. You stated that you keep them the same as your other bearded dragons, which is at 34 degrees Celsius on the basking spot. This converts over to 93.2 degrees Fahrenheit. That is substantially lower than what most keepers have their basking spots here. Our equivalent would be around 40-43 degrees Celsius. The adults are kept at closer to 100 degrees Fahrenheit, give or take a few degrees. (38 degrees Celsius). So, while there are not differences in your husbandry practices between a regular dragon and silkbacks, that would not be the case here in the U.S.

I also wanted to address the UVB. Many keepers use either 10.0 fluorescents or MVB's, which give out a significantly higher amount of UVB. Would the increased UVB have a negative impact on the silkback's skin? For example, I have a Reptile UV Mega ray MVB and the reading on my uvb meter is about 148 at the point where my dragon is receiving the uvb rays. They do well with this. It is also important to know how far the silkbacks are from the uvb source. According to the manufacturer of the 5.0, they should be 10-12 inches, or 10-25 cms from the uvb source. The uvb they receive is minimal. Again, this is very different than what many keepers and breeders practice in the U.S.

I also had a question regarding the humidity. I had heard that electricity is very expensive in Italy and air conditioning is not very common. So, I was wondering if you have air conditioning where the silkbacks are kept? If not, do you live in a humid region? Most of us here have air conditioning, so even in places where it is very humid (like NC & AR), the dragons habitat is usually kept at a much lower humidity level. So, I was wondering what the humidity level is in the silckbacks enclosures.

I know I asked a lot of questions, but I do think it is important to make the comparison of the silkback's husbandry with the general husbandry practices of dragons in the U.S. There are varying opinions on it, but I just wanted to point out that there are several differences between your recommended husbandry for silkbacks and regular bearded dragons.

On a different note. I would like to know in concrete terms, how closely related the dragons were that created the silkback mutation. You have implied they were closely related, but I was wondering to what degree? Were they siblings? I am trying to get a grasp on this and also would really like to know how long ago the mutation occurred and how many generations have passed. Were the leather backs that originally created the silkbacks closely related? If so, is it possible this mutation is a result of inbreeding and not a co-dominant gene? Has it had time to be proven out as a co-dominant trait?

Alessandro, you have been great in answering questions and providing information. I appreciate your honesty and willingness to come here and help us understand more about silkback dragons. I look forward to your answers of the questions I posed above. Thank you.

Wendy
 
Let’s start…..it will be long
“You have to remember that we are comparing it to our husbandry practices here in the U.S. For the most part, people try and keep hatchlings and juveniles at 105-110 degrees Fahrenheit. You stated that you keep them the same as your other bearded dragons, which is at 34 degrees Celsius on the basking spot. This converts over to 93.2 degrees Fahrenheit. That is substantially lower than what most keepers have their basking spots here. Our equivalent would be around 40-43 degrees Celsius. The adults are kept at closer to 100 degrees Fahrenheit, give or take a few degrees. (38 degrees Celsius). So, while there are not differences in your husbandry practices between a regular dragon and silkbacks, that would not be the case here in the U.S.”
Yes but as far as I now the temp you mentioned in usa are done to massimize growth rate, as a matter of fact in this way bearded dragon reach adult size in 6 months. Things like that are done to be able to have babies grow quickly to be sold as soon as you can. But from some research in Australia bearded dragon reach their sexual maturity in 1-2 year. This does seems to me natural!!!!!! And my animals need at least one year to be young adult and sometimes I do wait 2 year until I breed them….
Second point: you are making confusion with temp of the environment and body temp. there are lot of research on several species that they reach a body temp higher than the one of the ambient (for example vipera kaznakovi who live near Siberia and it can reach really high body temp, or Mediterranean tortoises that they are still active in October even if the temp is low, they just need a bit of sun to increase body temp…if you want I have thousand of example). The “lower” basking temp does not mean that they do not reach the right temp but they ay take more time. The high temp some usa breeder keep (I know some who don’t do that) is because in this way the animals reach the right body temp first and then they can give food more times (we talk about 4-6 times per day). BUT these breeder told me that they need to spray the animals several times per day to avoid overheating and dehidratation….YOU NEED TO SAY THE WHOLE STORY NOT PART OF IT

”I also wanted to address the UVB. Many keepers use either 10.0 fluorescents or MVB's, which give out a significantly higher amount of UVB. Would the increased UVB have a negative impact on the silkback's skin? For example, I have a Reptile UV Mega ray MVB and the reading on my uvb meter is about 148 at the point where my dragon is receiving the uvb rays. They do well with this”
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?? put me fact on it, not presuming it.

“ It is also important to know how far the silkbacks are from the uvb source. According to the manufacturer of the 5.0, they should be 10-12 inches, or 10-25 cms from the uvb source. The uvb they receive is minimal. Again, this is very different than what many keepers and breeders practice in the U.S.”
First of all my 5.0 lamp are 12 cm over the animals for 14 hour. Second of all there is a currently going research on 10.0 uvb lamb all over Europe (I have talked with some vet) because they are assuming that if the animals are kept too close to this kind of lamp they could create problem to the eyes of the animals starting from congiuntivitis and in the worse cases cancer (the research is still going i know some result as pers. comm). If you go on the zoomed site on the lamp section you will read that the 10.0 are builted for tall terrarium and they suggest a distance between the lamp and the animals of 45cm. so who is wrong???? don’t forget that in nature they can adjust by themselves, do we give the same opportunity to our captive animals?????

“question regarding the humidity. I had heard that electricity is very expensive in Italy and air conditioning is not very common. So, I was wondering if you have air conditioning where the silkbacks are kept? If not, do you live in a humid region? Most of us here have air conditioning, so even in places where it is very humid (like NC & AR), the dragons habitat is usually kept at a much lower humidity level. So, I was wondering what the humidity level is in the silckbacks enclosures.”
First of all I live in rome which is not that humid, second of all the cages are inside rooms which are completely isolated (and that was costing me lot of money). Inside my room I have 40% of humidity. When the weather is right I take them outside and every night I put them back. I do not have any air condition for them…. they are desertic animals.

”but I just wanted to point out that there are several differences between your recommended husbandry for silkbacks and regular bearded dragons”
This is your opinion, at the moment I keep normal and silkback in the same way…and at this moment my RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES

”how closely related the dragons were that created the silkback mutation. You have implied they were closely related, but I was wondering to what degree? Were they siblings? I am trying to get a grasp on this and also would really like to know how long ago the mutation occurred and how many generations have passed. Were the leather backs that originally created the silkbacks closely related? If so, is it possible this mutation is a result of inbreeding and not a co-dominant gene? Has it had time to be proven out as a co-dominant trait?”
i think I have already answered this question 3 times already…""puppytoes: as i told you there is a distance but i am aware that it is a small distance...it's a new thing and i do have 4 generation now. i have tested the genetic of silkback in the third generation of leatherback."" . but I can add more, silkback is not a mutation over another mutation. But it is the super form of a codominant gene. And this year I proved it out because I have bred my silkback male on a normal female (unrelated) and it gave me all the babies being leath. And this is the last confirmation you could have. I suppose you may need some info on genetic and I suggest you to read the chapter in the N.E.R.D. site. For your info I add some link that can be helpful

http://vmsherp.com/LCGenetics301.htm this is a section who explain easily the transmission of characters and the definition
http://www.geneticswizard.com/ this is a site where you can easily test any cross you want to do and it will give you the result in %

wendi I am sorry I am answering in this way but it seems to me that you are not doing constructive criticism but you are trying to find any fact that can help you to say silkback are not healty. if for any reason you need that (and I don’t understand why) please tell me and I will find a way to help you.

alessandro
 
I am not trying to find fault with the silkbacks, I am trying to get a better understanding of how they came into being. I tried to keep my tone respectful and simply ask questions.

None of my dragons ever matured in 6 months and I feel that females should not be bred until 18-24 months. I did feel it was relevant to explain the differences in husbandry because what is usually accepted as normal here does not coincide with your recommended husbandry for the silkbacks. Also, if you look at Dachiu's site, they state that silkbacks need a little bit different husbandry and that they keep the basking spot in the high 90's. So, I think that is where the perception of the difference in husbandry came from and I was really just trying to explain that. Nothing more, nothing less. I was not trying to say that the husbandry is better or superior in the U.S. than what you provide for your dragons. I was trying to point out that it is different and I do think that it is important for people to understand that, simply because if they end up with a silkback, it should be kept at the optimal conditions for its health. I was not saying you were wrong with your husbandry and I apologize if it came across that way.

There has been a lot of discussion here and I had not seen where you had mentioned breeding a normal to a silkback and the trait coming though with the offspring. There are many people who do not fully understand genetics and that is why it is important for you to be as detailed as possible.

I am going to be honest, and I asked this in my email to you. I am concerned with the amount of inbreeding that may have gone into creating this line. I asked questions that could be answered with solid info. I am still curious, when was the first silkback hatched out? Were the two leatherbacks that were bred when it was produced related? When you split the silkbacks into two groups were they out crossed to unrelated dragons? You have repeated the statement, "as i told you there is a distance but i am aware that it is a small distance...it's a new thing and i do have 4 generation now." That is general and the questions I asked were specific. Were those 4 generations to unrelated dragons? What exactly does a "small distance" mean? That is exactly what I have been asking. If you do not want to share all of this, I understand. But can you please at least verify when the first silkback was produced?

I am sorry that you feel that my post was negative, it was not meant to be. While I am the one asking these questions, I have to believe that others are wondering the same things. This is obviously something that you care about and have put much time into. I am just trying to find out as much info as possible. You have been generous with answering questions and I appreciate that. I am not waiting for you to say something wrong so I can ambush you, I am simply trying to get some facts. It is completely up to you how on how much information is shared. So I am grateful for whatever you are willing to provide. Thank you.

Wendy
 
This is a quote that was posted by Jazz in Bearded Dragon.org that was taken directly from Dachiu's website.

This line of leatherbacks have been bred for some time now by Alessandro in Italy. This particular leatherback gene is reproducing in what appears to be a co dominant form - in the first generation the leatherback gene is displayed - identifying them as visible HETS... Since the heterozygous form is visibly identified - out crossing for several generations is possible without losing track of the gene mutation - close inbreeding is unnecessary.

This statement has been removed since from Dachiu's site but to me it says that these dragons were only created last year so how far back can it possibly go?

alessandro wrote:

as i told you there is a distance but i am aware that it is a small distance...it's a new thing and i do have 4 generation now.

Being that you and Dachiu have worked together on this project, wouldn't she know when this began? If we are to go by this statement, then these dragons would only be around a year old, right?

This is not an attack on you, this is a community of people confronted with a mutation that were quite possibly inbred, originating from an animal we are passionate about. We have a right to know certain things about them. These questions were up-front questions that didn't need speculating but deserved up-front answers.

Thank you.
 
I'm sorry, I somehow left out the second part of the quote that Jass had posted on BD.org that he or she had originally taken from Dachiu's website, which since has been removed.

Last year Alessandro put 2 healthy leatherbacks together for breeding - expecting a full clutch of leatherbacks. The silkback dragons were a surprise. The silkback dragon is what appears to be a “super” form of this type of leatherback. (This type of gene can easily be compared to pastel/super pastel ball pythons.) For those looking for a more detailed explaination please check out N.E.R.D.s website
 
Alessandro-

We all greatly appreciate you coming here and answering some of our questions. We all realize that you are a busy man, and think it's wonderful that you've come here to help us understand more about your silkbacks, because of all the information you've shared with us. Most of what you've explained to us has made things easier for us to understand.

That being said, I have gone back and re-read Wendy's post about husbandry, and don't see anywhere that she was attacking you, insinuating that you're doing things wrong, or anything of the such. She is simply trying to point out that although your husbandry may be the same within your own colony, it is a bit different than what most of us practice here. That does not mean that your dragons are not properly cared for, just that there are differences.

For anyone looking into silkbacks, I think that would be important information to know. If we cared for them how we typically care for bearded dragons, it could quite possibly have a negative effect on the health of the silkbacks, and that is very important for people here to understand. Please know that nobody is attacking your husbandry in any way.

I have also watched as a few people have asked the same question several times, and although you have answered, the answers have been very indirect and it seems as though you might be trying to avoid giving a straight, definite, direct, concrete answer. We can all understand if you don't want to answer the question, and if that is the case, please feel free to just say so instead of feeling you have to dance around with your answer.

The question that has been asked so many times is: what exactly is the blood relation of the two dragons that were bred to produce silkbacks? Are they brother and sister, mother and son, cousins? For us, understanding the degree of relation between the parents of the silkbacks, will help us confirm for ourselves that this trait is truly co-dominate, and not just a direct result of inbreeding.

It's not that we don't understand genetics, to some degree. It's that we are aware that inbreeding can cause all sorts of things to happen, and we would like to know that this is not the case with the silkbacks, as well as the fact that some of us are a bit stubborn, and need to do the math for ourselves. Without more concrete, detailed answers from you, we cannot see that answer for ourselves.

I do hope that my post is not coming across as disrespectful or rude, as that is not the intent. I have a tendency to be abrasive sometimes, and I apologize in advance, if this is the case. Like others, I'm just trying to make some sense of all this.
 
Ok i will try to make it as clear as possible

the first thing i will say is that the whole history was described to really important breeder and seeing the result they sayd there is no doubt is a codominant gene

now....
Two normal animal are bred and one was different (first generation). I took the first animal (the female) and crossed with one normal unrelated male. I produced the second generation. I grow up all the babies (11 babies), I have splitted in two group, yellow (4) and red (7). Now the story should be divided in 2 section
First section. The 2 of the yellow (2 were not ready) and 4 of the red line (1 was not ready) were bred each with a coloured animal (yellow leath to yellow, red leath to red) unrelated. I produced the third generation (two lines). I have kept most of the red produced and this year I crossed the one who was able to breed to new unrelated animals. This is the fourth generation
Second section: The two red remaining I bred them together with the aim to test and find out the super form. I hatched 5 silkback (first generation) and the leather. It is for that reason that I say there is a distance but it is still small, because they come over from a cross of the second generation. This year I tested the silk in two ways. I crossed two of the third generation (one of the yellow line and one of the red line) which they should be more separate and I get silkback again (first generation but with more distance). The male of the first generation was ready to breed and I crossed him with a normal female and the result was all leath which confirm the codominant gene. The other 3 were not ready this year so we will wait till next year and we will breed them with other unrelated animals.

Then last year we gave some animals to dachiu, to help us with this project, 1 silkback (first generation) and some leath of the third generation (some of the red line and some of the yellow line) and as far as I know the ones ready to breed are/will be crossed with other unrelated animals. They know exactly the genetic situation of the animals and they are working with me to enhance the genetic difference.

This is a big project with lot of work to do for both of us. It is for that reason that I take the whole thing in a passionate way and I don’t like that people, who don’t know how difficult it is, would argue on this. I think that if you tell this story to anyone who breed snake (starting from nerd, bob clark, vin russo just to name some of the reputable snake breeder or to ron tremper, gecko breeder, or anyone else) who is working with genetic mutation he will tell you that this is the way we should work. So onestly….i don’t know what to say more

alessandro
 
Thank you, Alessandro. Even I got it that time, and I'm one of those with very, very limited knowledge of genetics. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this in simple terms, step by step, for us. I know this has to be frustrating for you, and I appreciate you putting up with us. I do hope you'll continue educating us, as we are all here to learn as much as we can, and there's nobody better to teach us than you.
 
Alessandro, thank you for explaining the genetic portion in more detail. It truly does help people to understand how the line originated. I appreciate your openness and willingness to take the time to explain, so we all can better understand where you are coming from. I also hope that you get that I was not coming down on you for your husbandry, I was just trying to explain that it was different than what many keepers practice in the U.S. Thanks again.

Wendy
 
whiskersmom said:
I'm sorry, I somehow left out the second part of the quote that Jass had posted on BD.org that he or she had originally taken from Dachiu's website, which since has been removed.

Last year Alessandro put 2 healthy leatherbacks together for breeding - expecting a full clutch of leatherbacks. The silkback dragons were a surprise. The silkback dragon is what appears to be a “super” form of this type of leatherback. (This type of gene can easily be compared to pastel/super pastel ball pythons.) For those looking for a more detailed explaination please check out N.E.R.D.s website

Alessandro ~~~ Thank you for explaining all of this ~~ it helps us..,

A Question ~~~These 2 healthy leatherbacks that you breed together where they Siblings any relation and how

What year was the first Silkback ~~hatched born ~~( discovered )

Thank you for all your answers and experience and knowledge that you are sharing.

Karen
 
Hello

Hello Alessandro,

That is a good explanation of the history of the genetics, thank you. It definitely will take some work to outcross & put more distance into the breeding program. Good luck with that.
I wanted to touch on the lighting comments/questions addressed earlier. I personally do not suggest or recommend the compact or coil type UVB lights. There are several reasons being the main one is very poor UVB output. The manner that the UVB is refracted out from the bulb is not a very direct output & the UVB meter readings have been seeing inconsistent readings as well. Another problem, yes, have been corneal irritations too. I do think though that one main reason is the lack of bright white light for basking. The UVB may seem bright to us, but to the dragon it is very dim while their pupils remain dilated instead of constricting which leaves their eyes vulnerable to damaging UVB rays. This same concept should be applied towards the tube bulbs as well.
The best basking lights to use are daytime type bulbs, or halogen type bulbs which are full spectrum lighting at at least 5000K on the CRI scale. I hope that helps. I definitely do not recommend the use of the compact or coil type UVB lights.

Tracie
 
Thank you for taking the time out of your schedule to discuss the genetics Alessandro.
My concern is pretty simple. The primary physical trait in these beardies that appears to be affected is how their bodies process Keratin, which is why they lack the typical scales seem in a beardie. They appear to be missing the upper two levels of the epidermis, the middle layer where scale development occurs and the upper layer which is normally made up of the heavy scales and spikes we are used to seeing.
I have a couple of related questions;
First, if you've had any skin breaks, have you noticed if the healing time is comparable to that of a "normal" bearded dragon?
Second, is the development of any other normal characteristic affected? In other words, are the nails and joints normal or are they more brittle? Are the growth patterns normal?
Third, and this may have already been answered, I've been gone a few days, are you tracking for any other issues that may arise? Unlike color specific breeding, this is a new genetic mutation and it may take a bit of time to see if any other issues come up from their bodies seeming inability to correctly process keratin.
Thanks.
 
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