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"Smuggler" Ball Python Introduction
- Thread starter HERONBOY
- Start date
chrisis697
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Very nice, like that belly. Pls keep us updated. Best of luck with a super. Any combos?
HERONBOY
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HERONBOY
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That's awesome! I wouldve thought Yb complex but that's obviously ruled out but i'd gamble this will prove allelic with wookie. What is in the female in the last 4 pics? Can't wait to see the super form. The effect it has on the Phantom mojos is crazy are you 100% sure both phantom and mojave are in both ?
HERONBOY
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Mike, The female in the last 4 pictures is the product of Phantom Yellowbelly x Original female Smuggler and is a Phantom Smuggler Yellowbelly. The male (1st photo) and the females in the Smuggler Combo post are as follows to the best of my ability at this time: male Smuggler Mojave, Phantom Smuggler female, Phantom Mojave Smuggler female and Phantom Mojave Smuggler Yellowbelly female.
Yeah that's crazy considering what most phantom mojave combos look like.
HERONBOY
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Mike, both of the females have the same base color as a Phantom Potion just a bit darker. The pairing was Smuggler Yellowbelly x Phantom Potion. There was a Mojave, Mojave Yellowbelly, Phantom Yellowbelly, Mojave Smuggler, Phantom Smuggler, and the 2 females that have to be Phantom Potion Smuggler and Phantom Potion Smuggler Yellowbelly. I have another clutch from Smuggler Yellowbelly to Blackhead Special. Check them out!!
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HERONBOY
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You definitely have and awesome project! However it's impossible to get a phantom potion from that pairing because only 1 gene can be passed on I'm curious what the smuggler yellowbelly looks like? Now that I know the 4 pics are a smuggler yellowbelly phantom it seems maybe it could be an ivory complex allele? That animal looks kind of like a super freeway combo. Either way I can't wait to see where this project goes any idea when you will produce the super smuggler?
HERONBOY
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Mike, The animals that are (best of my knowledge) Phantom Mojave Smuggler and Phantom Mojave Smuggler Yellowbelly were produced from breeding the Phantom Yellowbelly Smuggler to a Super Mojave male. The Smuggler is not in either the Blue Eyed Lucy allele or the Ivory Allele. I do not know anything about the Wookie gene but that there is no super form of it at this time, to my knowledge. The Smuggler Yellowbelly is attached in this response as well as a photo of the Smuggler Phantom Mojave Yellowbelly were you can see the eye is blue. Thank you for your interest and correspondences about this gene. I really appreciate it.
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Ok got it, you put smuggler yellowbelly bred to phantom potion by accident in last post. Looking forward to watching this project and buying one someday.
HERONBOY
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Mike, the history is 4 years ago bred Original Smuggler female to Phantom Yellowbelly. This produced the "Fiji" Which is the Phantom Yellowbelly Smuggler female.
Following year Original Smuggler was bred to Ivory thinking that the gene was connected to the Ivory allele. Produced 1.2 Yellowbelly Smugglers.
Original female has not reproduced the last 2 seasons.
Yellowbelly Smuggler male bred in 2018 season to Blackhead Special and to Soulsucker and Phantom Mojave. The Mojave Smuggler male came fron that breeding as well as the Phantom Smuggler female.
The Fiji bred to a Super Mojave male and made the Potion crosses.
Following year Original Smuggler was bred to Ivory thinking that the gene was connected to the Ivory allele. Produced 1.2 Yellowbelly Smugglers.
Original female has not reproduced the last 2 seasons.
Yellowbelly Smuggler male bred in 2018 season to Blackhead Special and to Soulsucker and Phantom Mojave. The Mojave Smuggler male came fron that breeding as well as the Phantom Smuggler female.
The Fiji bred to a Super Mojave male and made the Potion crosses.