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Specters? Looking for input> pics

Niiya

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Ok. So these guys hatched 6.30.11 out of a blackback butter sire to a normal/dinker female. (Have a thread on clutch #2 stellar butters already) We have some updated pics and are now looking into the possibility of mom being a specter? Or something that would react within the yellowbelly complex? Since her son won't go this year we are planning on pairing her with a YB and see what happens. We would love some input on this. This was moms first clutch and they look very promising whatever they are. Lots of yellow sides, deep black saturation lined with white, head spots/tail stripes, thick/busy back pattern, flames, uniform alien heads, AND extreme zipper bellies!

We held back 1.2 dinkers, and 1.0 butter/dinker. Pics are of "Pebbles" most striking female holdback, and her butter/dinker brother, "Sombo". He is pictured with a half sister blackback butter so you can see how his color and pattern are different. These are all out of the same blackback butter sire, only the blackback female butter has a different dam. Thanks for looking and opinions are appreciated!
 

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Mom does look like a specter. Definitely put YB on her and see what comes out. Better... put a male firefly with her :thumbsup:
I hope she proves to be a specter for you. That will be awesome!
 
Oh thats good to hear. We sure hope so, that would be awesome! Our 1700 gram normal purchase would change into a 3200 gram specter :p Thanks for your comments!
 
Wow, there's definitely something going on there. I'd say you might be right. Best of luck proving that out! YB combo for sure :)

Regards,

B
 
I would check with Mark Haas and see what he thinks. He can tell you without any doubt whether its spector or not.
 
Good idea, I did ask his opinion but haven't heard back. I'm sure he gets questions like this all the time so i do hope he has the time to check the thread.
 
Im sure he will get back to you. Took him a little while to get back to me when I had asked him about my female 'spector'. He was very informative and I was very happy with his input. He pointed things out to me that I did not see anywhere online such as 'khaki' color being one of the sure signs of a spector (which mine did not have). :( Good luck.
 
Update 4.24.12

Thought I would update some pics, mostly bellies sorry :p I was tryin for the orange/yellow on the sides. Pebbles is pic 1 &2, Squirt 3rd, Prissy 4th. Mom was paired with a YB this year and she is near her pre-lay so we will cross our fingers!
 

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This is my specters belly, looks similar to a yellowbelly's belly in that it has the yellow tinting in the belly and has some speckling in the belly also.
Head spot is a bit more subdued but still there...
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Good luck, it sounds like you'll find out soon :thumbsup:
 
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