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Spiderballs.net.....ROB.....Untrust Worthy

You will get your albino when you prove that I tried to "scam or rip-off" as you put it.

Just because Billingsly didn't like my VERY FAIR trade offer does not mean in any way I scammed anyone.

Just for the other folks that may still be reading this dribble, Ron Billingsly had posted 2.2 Timors about a year ago. To the best of my recollection, I offered Ron a 500-600 gram female pastel possible het albino ball for the Timors and $1000. Was this offer low, MAYBE, but how do you see this as me conning another?

WELL DAVID............................
I know several people you have tried to scam or rip-off.
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Unless Ron is several people, then we should see some more names. Until then, I will consider the above quote from you yet ANOTHER lie.
 
yea no doubt snakebstr, how is another flaked deal a scam? if the person didnt like what the guy offered, he should not be considered a scammer cause of it. i guess it is to you, snakebstr if you would post a topic complaining of another flaked deal.....
 
In my opinion you tried to rip him off when you wanted him to pay 1,000 and 2.2 timors for a female pastel. That is all I am saying. I knew you wouldn't give any albino ball for anything, I figured you would wiggle your way of of that one so I will not try and post anymore of the names of people you tried to(rip-off,low ball, etc.) because you will try and turn it around like you always do. You said that I was trying to rip someone off when I posted a snake for 1250.00 when I even stated that it was a farm hatched baby, where is their any difference, If you try and low ball someone or ask too high of a price it is all the same...RIGHT..at least that is the way I see it. If I am a scammer/con artist you are also. I have never scammed or ripped anyone off and if I have it would be on the BOI, Not some bogus accusations of me trying to rip people off just because I posted a animal for what I though it was worth. But I figured in your mindless mind that YOU wouldn't consider trying to low ball someones snakes is not a attempt to rip someone off....Go figure as usual your right and everyone else is wrong. But anyway none of this matters on this because this THREAD was about the NEGATIVE DEALINGS of ROB at Spiderballs.net so how in the hell DID you take this OFF TOPIC and make it about ME. Because your that way. How many people on here has ever said I RIPPED THEM OFF...NONE...YES I may be guilty of posting snakes at a high price but so are all of US from time to time. That does NOT make me a CROOK or Scammer or Con Man, whetever. You also said I would get a ALBINO for every name.....True or false...well I gave you one and now you renig ..that figures.. that is your character. So I will NOT endulge in giving you more names so you can justify how you do consider that trying to rip someone. See ya
 
the reason everyone went against you and off topic, cause you admitted you ruined the deal between rob and you...... i honestly think the topic stopped then.

If you try and low ball someone or ask too high of a price it is all the same...RIGHT
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i would also like to say this is america, people are free to get what they want out of something they own. if someone dont like it, then obviously they wont buy it.... this by no means makes them a scammer or a con artist.

oh and if you want me to get back on topic here is my thought. if you read these post's here its almost clear who is more profesional and who isnt. so you might want to think before you call someone else unprofessional.....

I remember the guy with the ralph davis hat. If what he says is true then he is a bigger asshole than I thought. Knowing that I was doing a trade with him and not even coming and saying what the problem was is a worse thing to do than just saying that he didn't like what I was telling my costomers.
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maybe if you would have presented yourself in a profesional manner, then maybe he would have felt better dealing with you. its clear here though you can't even do it online, let alone in perosn... im pretty shure if we all here was in his shoes, VERY few would even step forward then to tell you who they were after what happened... as i said before if you knew it was him he would have been treated better and you know it.
 
Mr. Mikey I would like to know where on this thread I addmitted that it was MY FAULT he decided not to do business with me. Besides If he was anykind of man he would have said who he was and the reason he didn't want to do business with me rather tthan leave me hanging. I TOLD him I would be SET up at the GREENVILLE show so he knew who I was, So I think it is VERY VERY unproffessional do conduct business in this manner, If he didn't like me FINE he should have made it a point to confront me at the show rather than be some coward lurking in the background just looking for reasons not to deal with someone. I deal with costomers day in and day out with my real job so don't stand here MIKEY and act like just because you see my posts on here you know me, YOU DON'T, Because if you did then you would be such a bias person. But as usual everyone on here is so perfect and does nothing wrong. As a matter of fact I talked to ROB last night VIA IM and he said again that the BOI is a JOKE. So now what you think about big ole ROB. And if you don't believe me what he said I printed everything that was said. NOW eat them beens. That is so funny how everyone that is defending him spends all of their spare time on the BOI and he thinks its a JOKE. So what does that make all of US....JOKES...true or false....but I guess you all will still think he is a great guy. Oh well my integrity is not on the line here. Like I have said several time I don't have any BAD COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ANIMALS I SELL OR HAVE SOLD...DO I...NOPE. See ya
 
so I will not try and post anymore of the names of people you tried to(rip-off,low ball, etc.) because you will try and turn it around like you always do.
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Yea, I believe you...........

You said that I was trying to rip someone off when I posted a snake for 1250.00 when I even stated that it was a farm hatched baby, where is their any difference,
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David, this was hashed out 3-4 times now, I didn't say you were ripping others off because of the price, it was because of your VERY misleading ads.

You also said I would get a ALBINO for every name.....True or false...well I gave you one and now you renig ..that figures.. that is your character.
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David, I will now waste my time and quote myself because you seem to have reading/comprehension issues.
I tell you what, when your done beating your chest, post some names of the folks that I tried to scam. I will give you one albino ball for every person that I tried to scam or rip off. They will need to post as well.
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Like I said, 1 albino for every person I tried to scam.......I still don't see anybody David, so NO ALBINO FOR YOU.......I worded it this way for a few reasons. First off, I knew your buddy Ron would be brought up and again, I hardly see my FAIR offer as a scam. Two, I know that there are no others and you are just trying to get under my skin yet again. This will not happen. I am a straight up breeder on a hobby level that sells REAL morphs at decent prices. I could care less what your buddies think of me.
 
But AL, I did give you a person in my opinion you tried to beat/rip/scam out of his Timors, TRUE or FALSE. So if I offered you 10.00 for your albino I wouldn't be trying to rip you off......Yea right. I really really hope we meet sometime....Guess what I will have a table in Daytona 2005 why don't you just drop by and and meet me in person or any show I do for that matter...I will be Snakebstr's Reptile House....and will have a 2ft x 6ft banner stating this. So you cannot miss me. Believe me I will be looking forward to it. By the way I don't need your albino I got mine from Ralph Davis Reptiles today.....and he was awesome. AL and your little comments about MORPHS, I will be producing quite a few myself so you will be hearing more from me, Didn't all of you last year say I would be gone in a year...well guess what...I am NOT. I have got a collection from some of the largest well known breeders around. My collection consists of Pieds, 100% het pieds, albinos, 100% het albinos, Yellow bellys, Spiders, 100% het clowns, Ghosts, 100% het ghosts, pastels several bloodlines, Cinnys, and a few other suprises but we will just have to see what pops out of my breedings this season. But anyway I am through trying to talk to this bunch they are always so brainless, I post a AD and a wronged deal and they jump on me and think that it is right to conduct business in this fashion, WELL IT IS NOT, PEOPLE and BUSINESS' are only as good as their word if it sucks they suck in my book. See ya
 
Al you need to check you website out it is acting up. I tried to look and see how you have progressed and couldn't even see pictures......whats up with that? see ya



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Am I supposed to be impressed?

BTW, I thought you were already warned a few times for trying to advertise on the BOI?another thread
 
This thread is way off topic

and way past the point where we should let it drop down to the bottom of the page and further...
 
Just wanted to be CLEAR

All the good things I said about Rob I TAKE BACK! He still has animals that belong to me from a breeding loan, from almost TWO years ago! Do not trust him, one of the four animals I sent him in good faith, a Beautiful adult female ghost, got sick in his care and died within about 2 weeks of me getting her back. He also gave me back my Pastel female adult that was housed in the same bag with the Ghost, and she was sick too. The two males I sent him were sold! Rob has proven himself to be the worst of the worst. He owes many people snakes and money. He has repeatedly said he will take care of things, and has dissapeared everytime he was to send something.

Dave
 
David Reid said:
All the good things I said about Rob I TAKE BACK! He still has animals that belong to me from a breeding loan, from almost TWO years ago! Do not trust him, one of the four animals I sent him in good faith, a Beautiful adult female ghost, got sick in his care and died within about 2 weeks of me getting her back. He also gave me back my Pastel female adult that was housed in the same bag with the Ghost, and she was sick too. The two males I sent him were sold! Rob has proven himself to be the worst of the worst. He owes many people snakes and money. He has repeatedly said he will take care of things, and has dissapeared everytime he was to send something.

Dave
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Ok..so between then and now { 2 years } every thing was going well between you two ? :confused:
 
No

There are other threads about what happened, and I am not going to hash it out again here. The reason for my post here and now, was that I was defending Rob in this post, and do not want to look like I am associated with, condone his business practices, or support Rob in any way, at this point in time. He never returned half of my animals, he tried to give me D- quality animals in trade, sold animals that were not his, and has dragged this on for almost two years. I am by far the only one he has done this too.

Dave
 
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