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St Roberts Show

A lesson learned

Hello there my name is Kelli, my husband and I run the KC Reptile show here in Kansas City.
This is just a valid point to those who try and start shows that things can happen. Vendors don't show up, you loose electricity, etc......
I do know that we were accused of not advertising for our show by someone on this post and therefor not having a billion people in the door........
We advertise in newspapers, radio, flyers, restaurants, nail salons, - you name it and we do it. The point is that things may happen and like it was stated before some are good and some are bad. You have to take the good with the bad- that is a fact of life in everything that we do, but please for the sake of my well being and yours.... worry about what you are doing. As vendors we have no reason to lie about where and how we do our advertising- if you have ideas let us know that is why we ask.
And as for the comment about the OK show- that was uncalled for and should not even be a part of this post.
We are very fair and work with everyone.
If you or anyone you know would like to be a vendor at one of our shows please let us know!
913-341-7389!
Thanks
Kelli Cruse
 
The man needs to apologize

Kelli

Hi, the person who made the comment about the OK show also made false, hurtful statements about a vendor he doesnt even know saying 90% animals on their deathbed, thin aniamls that will die before the week's out. Animals sold below wholesale. If those animals were dying, why am I still feeding, watering and cleaning up after them and will pack them up Saturday nite to take to a show Sunday? His statements are false and I won't let it drop.

He apparently needs to lie to make himself feel big or something.

I think he needs to apologize, plain and simple.

Karen
 
Actually.....

Actually it was a female on this post- I am not trying to get nasty at all on here, but my point is this just goes to show that sometimes things don't matter. ( vendors, advertising, etc....) you can't hold everyones hand to make sure they come regardless of how much you advertise or vendors say they will be here!
 
We had 20 vendors show up out of thirty we had committments from. We had 38 tables filled, not including the three we donated to the Herp Society. And yes at 8pm the night before we had only been contacted by two vendors who said they would not be there so we were a little leary about stretching tables, but I stayed there til 5 am trying to round up extra tables to make sure we had enough if everyone showed. One was you Lynn (and that was my fault for misunderstanding you in Feb) The other was Anthony Christifano



I e-mailed you on May 24th wanting to know who Lynn's Dragons was. When I found out it was me I sent you a email stating I was not going to be there, to take my name off the list.. Yes, It was a misunderstanding. When we talked at the Broken Arrow show I told you I was Interested, to send me some infro. You gave me a flyer. I told you then, That my friend Irene(the one selling crickets) would not drive that far.. I also stated that I would have to talk to Sprocket, (my husband) as I do not drive. I would have to ok it with him. I also said it would be tough because of the holiday weekend. I did not call you the night before or email you the night before. I would not do that to a show promoter unless if was a EMERGENCY. Good luck with your show..
 
Lets see.
I really hate to start on this subject but I just can't leave it alone.
The odds were working against this show from the start.

1. The move

The move was the first point of trouble. But when a vcounty offical needs the community center for a family gathering and the city book keeping was a mess the reptile folks lose. That was a matter of take what you can get or no show.

2. The Tables

The table issue was just as shocking to those involved as well as the vendors. There were a few 8' tabes brought in but that was by a herp member that was trying to help out.

3. The Date

Yes it was a holiday weekend. Plus not to mention the weather hassle.

4. The Power

That was beyond the control of anyone. A few vendors still had power to the tables. Not many but a few. The fact it took an hour to be turned back on was due to the city. The breaker panel was located in a room that they did not know who had the key for.


I spent many hours at the show. I was there from the time we started to set up till 3 am sitting with Jim after it was as set up as it could have been trying to figure out what more we could do. Then returned at 6:30 am.

This is on top of the many hours I put on behind the curtain.
I gain nothing out of this other than the satisfaction of seeing a good show.

I spent hours walking around this show the animals that I saw all seemed to be doing fine.
I have seen alot worse at other shows.

As far as the selling of the animals. All vendors are there for the same purpose. To make money and move the animals !! Thats the bottom line.
 
Mike,
If you have questions about your ball python, you can call our shop, 573 747-0469. I have the rest of the balls from that clutch and they are all fine.

Karen
 
Lynn,

You are correct. What I meant to say was that by 8pm Saturday night we only had 2 that had contacted us. I wasn't trying to imply that you waited to notify us. My point was that we were a little leary about stretching tables because we had only had 2 say they wouldn't be there. Lynn notified us in plenty of time. We e-mailed each other and I understood that you wouldn't be there.

Thank You
Big Jim
 
JIM

I am trying to reach Jim Burns (jim0602) requarding balance due for bird. On 04/13/04 Jim agreed to trade a Goffin Cockatoo chick for a male Goffin breeder the chicks were due to hatch in about 3 weeks so I said ok. After about 4 weeks he said the chick had died and would send a check I said ok thanks. About 2 weeks passed still nothing. Made contact with jim again said sorry must not have been mailed I will be going to the St. Roberts show this weekend will be coming through there can deliver money I said ok thanks just call me when you get close I will meet you at I-44 said ok by. Sunday came never called tried calling never reached him. Got him through email and said would send again through mail. Never arrived, Reached him on 06/29/04 he I will send it today through Fedex it will be there on 07/01/04 I will send conformation number to you tonight. I agreeded and waited nothing and havent been able to get him on the phone or through email. I am looking or his home phone and address. I dont expect anyone to give it to me but if you could email me with your info or I can send you mine if you email me I will put you in contact with the local courts. I will be filing against him on Monday 07/05/04 and would apriciate any help. I can provide anyone interested in the emails and the contract signed by Jim to show that this is legit before they give any info I am new to the BOI because I have never had this problem through here before.
Jim please contact me through email or through a post to avoid Court cost thanks Jim

Rob Malcom

PS
Message was written better but got deleted thanks
 
I see there is another Show in St Robert. Mo in October.
I haven't noticed any thing as far as advertising being done this time. Last show I saw Information on a few cars and other places throughout town.

Is there going to be a Show?

If so how many vendors can we expect to see this time?

I really enjoy the shows in St. Robert. It's nice to have something in this area like that.
 
Well all I can tell you is that the building has been reserved. As far as vendors who knows.
I know the Herp Society isn't planning on helping out like they have in the past. Thats not a rumor btw as it's comming from the Vice President of the Club.
 
Why is it that.......?

Just a quick question as to why the Herp Societys never do help out??? What is the big issue?......... I have been wondering this for awhile and have never asked it yet!
THanks, Princesskelleye
 
As a member of the Tri County Herp Society, let me say that we did help out alot with the previous show located in St Robert. The reason we did this is that we were asked if we wanted to help by one of the promoters of the show, Big Jim.

This show is being ran by the Comptons mainly and we have not been contacted in any way about helping out with the show coming up. As they are in charge of all advertising, I would think they would contact us if they were interested in our helping out. Even if they would contact us at this late of a date, we have a lot of commitments already planned for the Society. We are a small Society at this point, and while steadily growing stronger, we do not have enough people to be able to just jump in at any time.

At the previous show we did not have to "rent" the kitchen or pay for a table at the expo. These additional costs make it hard for the Society to be able to be present at the show. While we would all love to be able to do things out of the goodness of our hearts, lets be honest, if it isn't going to benifit the club to help out in some small way even, why should we bust our butts like we did last time?!

This may not be the opinion of the other Tri County Herp Society members, but it is mine. Please don't hold any of the other members liable for what I have said.

Thank you,

Paula
 
Re: Why is it that.......?

Princesskelleye said:
Just a quick question as to why the Herp Societys never do help out??? What is the big issue?......... I have been wondering this for awhile and have never asked it yet!
THanks, Princesskelleye
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A lot of times the Herp Societies find themselves at odds with the promoters of a show or even worse are competition with them. You wouldn't expect Pet Co to help Petsmart would you?? In St Robert we have a unique situation, the members of the herp soc have in the past been excited about helping with this show, I know the put many hours of work into the previous two shows. I owe them a debt of gratitude that cannot be measured. They have been the extra legs and hands that I needed to fulfill my obligation.

As for the present show, I dunno what's going to happen. I am still waiting for a vendor list from the other promoter so we can update the web site, soon as I recieve it we'll get a vendors list up and running again.

Big Jim
 
Nicely Put

sage1970 said:
As a member of the Tri County Herp Society, let me say that we did help out alot with the previous show located in St Robert. The reason we did this is that we were asked if we wanted to help by one of the promoters of the show, Big Jim.

This show is being ran by the Comptons mainly and we have not been contacted in any way about helping out with the show coming up. As they are in charge of all advertising, I would think they would contact us if they were interested in our helping out. Even if they would contact us at this late of a date, we have a lot of commitments already planned for the Society. We are a small Society at this point, and while steadily growing stronger, we do not have enough people to be able to just jump in at any time.

At the previous show we did not have to "rent" the kitchen or pay for a table at the expo. These additional costs make it hard for the Society to be able to be present at the show. While we would all love to be able to do things out of the goodness of our hearts, lets be honest, if it isn't going to benifit the club to help out in some small way even, why should we bust our butts like we did last time?!

This may not be the opinion of the other Tri County Herp Society members, but it is mine. Please don't hold any of the other members liable for what I have said.

Thank you,

Paula
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So I am told today that this show is even more up in the air. It seems the Comptons have sold their half off to some mysterious person. Hopefully now we can get this moving along and get some vendors and restore this show to the way it is supposed to be.

Big Jim
 
Seems to me the show is on this is the email I got from my soon to be x partner's husband

Jim, as you stated, your job is to do my grunt work for the show. As the primary organizer, please consider this a formal notice that the show will be held on october 24. DO NOT cancel the room. We are working the fine details of the sell of the show to Mike Garrett. As a side note, I am concerned for the stunt you are trying to pull on the saturday before the show. Do you honestly think this will work? I noticed in the herp meeting notes that you opposed the show on saturday before ours. Is this true? Who is reptile works?

Bryan Compton
Hellebusch Tool & Die
Washington, MO 63090
636.239.7543
636.239.2893 (fax)
[email protected]



Atleast now we can go out and get some vendors so there will actually be a show. Finally someone willing to do the work required to actually promote a show

Big Jim
 
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