Inquiry Steven Brenner Transaction

[Lucille]

Show your emails proving your assertions.

 

[calebroad]

Yes I agreed to snow or caramel prior to this thread, but like every agreement, I have nothing. Too much time gone by. Go ahead and shoot me in the back. I won't lose my focus. My problem here is exactly as I stated, $4k of the deal is incomplete.

If you want proof, please specify exactly, specifically, what item you want proof of.

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

Yes I agreed to snow or caramel prior to this thread, but like every agreement, I have nothing. Too much time gone by. Go ahead and shoot me in the back. I won't lose my focus. My problem here is exactly as I stated, $4k of the deal is incomplete.

If you want proof, please specify exactly, specifically, what item you want proof of.

What date was that agreement to accept the snow with split scutes made? I am trying to get a sense of time in relation to practicality here. I have no interest in any potential excuses from any party. Most people have hatched out most of their morph sliders for the season as of some time ago, although there may be some later-season hatchlings as well as a lower volume of unsold stock. If he did not have an equivalent hatchling caramel het albino animal to send back to you (since you sent a hatchling caramel het albino and that would be the direct equivalent, IIRC) or a snow (which is even better from a perspective of genetic value to a project involving caramel and albino traits), it can take time to locate, negotiate (genuine negotiation), pay & receive, evaluate as fit for the terminal recipient, and then ship to the terminal recipient.

That "shoot me in the back" noise is of no value to your position.

 

[calebroad]

Brenner said his peace and then said "end of story", refusing to communicate with any of you. Probably counting of the fact that the thread would become an attack on me. But I refuse to let that happen. I have been open to almost anything to resolve the issue, also, I explained to PayPal the details. PayPal agreed the Softshells were a branch of the transaction as a whole.

I refuse to be lured again, the facts are exactly as I stated, and PayPal found that the chargeback could continue. Nicholas asserting himself as some kind of PayPal merchant judge, is unfair, after PayPal already ruled my chargebacks were valid.

Somebody blatantly steals $4,000 from me and the moderator come to their defense, was my original concern. If you have a nasty bout with a moderator, some time ago, the stance is that person shall be cheated upon.

 

[calebroad]

He promised the caramel or split snow by September 20th. And that is following a huge series of broken agreements. I had no expectations that September 20th would hold, - and it did not. Your not hearing me that this has gone round and round for months

 

[Lucille]

the facts are exactly as I stated, and PayPal found that the chargeback could continue..

Tell me what I need to post, specifically, and if possible, I will post

Post the emails and screen shots between you and Paypal showing the initial purchase, the chargeback, and their agreement, please.

 

[Fangthane]

Somebody blatantly steals $4,000 from me and the moderator come to their defense, was my original concern. If you have a nasty bout with a moderator, some time ago, the stance is that person shall be cheated upon.

The persecution complex is well beyond the point where it's just kind of amusing. At this point, if all you're willing to offer are delusional ramblings, why are you even here? Despite whatever you may have convinced yourself you've accomplished, all you're really doing is painting a picture where all directly involved with this failed transaction are very likely to be added The List that may people keep. Considering how you consistently grasp any opportunity to present the most twisted and unsupported version of reality, I think that makes documentation that much more necessary. Your credibility was pretty much shot before this thread was even posted; your continued, laughable playing of the victim card surely hasn't done a single thing to change that fact.

Post screenshots leading up to the initial agreement; anywhere that it was changed; anything that absolutely leads you to believe you're not going to be made whole; lies you've caught him in, etc - at this point, basically anything that doesn't consist of the self-serving misinterpretations you've given so far would be a good start. For sake, man. It's not that complicated.

 

[calebroad]

I understand, I appreciate you acknowledging that my credibility was shot before I posted the thread. Obviously due to the moderator bout, as I claimed. Since that's the only problem.

I wanted it to be acknowledged, so thank you. I will update the post if the theft is made whole.

Have a great day! Go Dawgs!

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

Brenner said his peace and then said "end of story", refusing to communicate with any of you. Probably counting of the fact that the thread would become an attack on me. But I refuse to let that happen. I have been open to almost anything to resolve the issue, also, I explained to PayPal the details. PayPal agreed the Softshells were a branch of the transaction as a whole.

I refuse to be lured again, the facts are exactly as I stated, and PayPal found that the chargeback could continue. Nicholas asserting himself as some kind of PayPal merchant judge, is unfair, after PayPal already ruled my chargebacks were valid.

Somebody blatantly steals $4,000 from me and the moderator come to their defense, was my original concern. If you have a nasty bout with a moderator, some time ago, the stance is that person shall be cheated upon.

It might be helpful for you to show that PayPal agreed in the manner you have described.

You were never lured. I can evaluate things for myself if I like. I would not mind seeing where PayPal ruled that your disputes were valid. Could be the case, but it would help to show that if so.

I am not sure why you keep lying about some stance that does not exist. As an individual, I do not trust you because of your historical behavior (threats and false accusations), but I think you should present any evidence because it helps to back your story when you present it. As a moderator, I have only taken you to task officially for instances where you have broken the rules (willfully). I am not the only moderator to have taken you to task for on-site misbehavior, am I? You broke site rules more than once, did you not? I even sent you messages to explain, in a very lenient fashion, why your account's details needed to be in compliance prior to anything official. You very begrudgingly complied and then decided later to take your account details out of compliance, after which you had that officially addressed. You keep conflating things which have no connection and it is not appreciated.

He promised the caramel or split snow by September 20th. And that is following a huge series of broken agreements. I had no expectations that September 20th would hold, - and it did not. Your not hearing me that this has gone round and round for months

I am reading your words just fine. The discovery of failure to achieve charcoal production targets took time, yes? Discussions regarding potential alternatives took time, yes? PayPal disputes were unlikely to have lubricated the realities of the problems between you two, yes? All of the things I listed as factors for getting that snow deal done take time, yes? If he has agreed to send you a snow with split scutes and you agreed to that, I believe you are due that animal. I am not sure what the logistical challenges are to the timeline for that, though (I am not him and I am not the source, so those are not details I am privy to). The animal is not a made-to-order cheeseburger or pizza. Again, in case it was missed, you are owed completion of the current agreement as you have both agreed to it. Tacking on lies about the site, the staff, and making things needlessly inflammatory do not assist your cause here.

 

[Fangthane]

I understand, I appreciate you acknowledging that my credibility was shot before I posted the thread. Obviously due to the moderator bout, as I claimed. Since that's the only problem.

Incorrect. It's obviously due to your dishonesty and general inability to function on the same plane of reality that the rest of us are occupying. You've no one to blame but your own words/actions, no matter how you try to portray us a pitchfork-wielding mob that wants to see some poor, innocent victim getting cheated. Way past time for you to give that nonsense a rest.

 

[Lucille]

The continued refusal to post pertinent emails validating his assertions makes me think that Chris Davis was, and is, is a fraud, his constant whining about moderators makes me think he is either unintelligent or deliberately trolling because he does not want to discuss what appears to be fraudulent behavior.

I will send a copy of this thread to Paypal. And I'm sure future possible employers will take note of what has happened here, and I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy or sell to Chris.

 

[calebroad]

It might be helpful for you to show that PayPal agreed in the manner you have described.

You were never lured. I can evaluate things for myself if I like. I would not mind seeing where PayPal ruled that your disputes were valid. Could be the case, but it would help to show that if so.

I am not sure why you keep lying about some stance that does not exist. As an individual, I do not trust you because of your historical behavior (threats and false accusations), but I think you should present any evidence because it helps to back your story when you present it. As a moderator, I have only taken you to task officially for instances where you have broken the rules (willfully). I am not the only moderator to have taken you to task for on-site misbehavior, am I? You broke site rules more than once, did you not? I even sent you messages to explain, in a very lenient fashion, why your account's details needed to be in compliance prior to anything official. You very begrudgingly complied and then decided later to take your account details out of compliance, after which you had that officially addressed. You keep conflating things which have no connection and it is not appreciated.



I am reading your words just fine. The discovery of failure to achieve charcoal production targets took time, yes? Discussions regarding potential alternatives took time, yes? PayPal disputes were unlikely to have lubricated the realities of the problems between you two, yes? All of the things I listed as factors for getting that snow deal done take time, yes? If he has agreed to send you a snow with split scutes and you agreed to that, I believe you are due that animal. I am not sure what the logistical challenges are to the timeline for that, though (I am not him and I am not the source, so those are not details I am privy to). The animal is not a made-to-order cheeseburger or pizza. Again, in case it was missed, you are owed completion of the current agreement as you have both agreed to it. Tacking on lies about the site, the staff, and making things needlessly inflammatory do not assist your cause here.

I am preparing to post all text messages, etc for this transaction. Although, I do not agree that I have any other problems, besides the bout with you, long ago, I honestly dont care. We agreed to wish each other the best and move on. I dont know of any other issues that were not direct tinnacles of our feud. But in any case, I am not willing to re-hatch that scenario, for it would be unnecessary drama, some on fauna believe that even with the admission from Stephen Brenner, that proof should be posted. And that "I dont get it".

Okay, so I am going to try to understand as best I can, I am going to post the texts that we shared from the beginning, obviously I cannot post over the phone conversations. This along with the admission, should be enough to prove my claim. In the end, I feel confident their will be conspiracy theorist still, and that is fine by me.

My intentions, are that, if somebody should come to this BOI, and request information on the risks of doing business with Stephen Brenner, I will spell out and document the facts as best I can. In this case, there is a significant loss, I am not claiming that I dislike someone, or that I hate someone, etc. etc.

I come here, with a claim, that I was deceived, and despite my desperate attempts to salvage my transaction, no relief has been granted. That is my stance, and I will prove this. Please allow me time to post the test history.

Also, can you provide me the best way to post, a very long conversation of test messages, and facebook messages.

Kindly,
Chris Davis

 

[nickolasanastasiou]

I am preparing to post all text messages, etc for this transaction. Although, I do not agree that I have any other problems, besides the bout with you, long ago, I honestly dont care. We agreed to wish each other the best and move on. I dont know of any other issues that were not direct tinnacles of our feud. But in any case, I am not willing to re-hatch that scenario, for it would be unnecessary drama, some on fauna believe that even with the admission from Stephen Brenner, that proof should be posted. And that "I dont get it".

Okay, so I am going to try to understand as best I can, I am going to post the texts that we shared from the beginning, obviously I cannot post over the phone conversations. This along with the admission, should be enough to prove my claim. In the end, I feel confident their will be conspiracy theorist still, and that is fine by me.

My intentions, are that, if somebody should come to this BOI, and request information on the risks of doing business with Stephen Brenner, I will spell out and document the facts as best I can. In this case, there is a significant loss, I am not claiming that I dislike someone, or that I hate someone, etc. etc.

I come here, with a claim, that I was deceived, and despite my desperate attempts to salvage my transaction, no relief has been granted. That is my stance, and I will prove this. Please allow me time to post the test history.

Also, can you provide me the best way to post, a very long conversation of test messages, and facebook messages.

Kindly,
Chris Davis

You can post some forms of text as copied and pasted text (I usually do this for emails), but then some people might ask for screenshots if something falls into dispute over being genuine or not. Mobile device text messages are typically posted in the form of screenshots. Screenshots are usually the most complete way of presenting message exchanges. If using images such as screenshots, one must take care to upload and attach to this site and not an external host, as attachment to external hosting services is easily removed by the poster or a hosting change and the point is to create a record of permanence (to the extent that this site exists). If image evidence is not attached to the post via upload to this site, an infraction can be issued because it is one of the rules, so please take care on this particular point. Also, make sure to identify all parties whose words form the exchange if it is not already obvious in the images. That way there is not an anonymity issue with respect to third-party quotations (another rule).

Here is a link explaining the way we conventionally attach images to posts.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304671

That method can vary slightly between devices and operating systems, but I have tested it to work on multiple smart phones, tablets, and personal computers. Some mobile devices do not allow more than one image per post. Most PCs and some other devices allow four images to be attached per post. The process can be tedious, but I consider the time invested to be well worth it for presenting one's image-based evidence.

 

[calebroad]

ALL Texts from start to finish, please delete is violation occurs

Christopher Davis

And

Stephen Brenner

 

[calebroad]

You will have to read each screenshot, from left to right.

Work with me as best you can please.

Hopefully you can see the discussion, exactly as was stated.

 

[calebroad]

Text History

Christopher Davis

And

Stephen Brenner

Text Hostory

 

[calebroad]

Left to right

Christopher Davis

And

Stephen Brenner

Test screenshots

 

[calebroad]

Text Test

Text Test

 

[calebroad]

Proof Proof

Text History And Pictures

 

[calebroad]

Tracking ScreenShot & Stephen Brenner PHOTO

Tracking Number with Signature Required