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if i breed sunglow to albino do i get all albino and sunglow or do i get some normals in there somewhere


question #2 if i breed sunglow to sunglow do i get albinos, sunglows, and super sunglows
or is supersunglow impossible
this is a delema i will be facing this breeding season and need to clarify the possiblilities in order to make breeding decisions
thanks for the help anyone
Eric
 
ericfire said:
if i breed sunglow to albino do i get all albino and sunglow or do i get some normals in there somewhere


question #2 if i breed sunglow to sunglow do i get albinos, sunglows, and super sunglows
or is supersunglow impossible
this is a delema i will be facing this breeding season and need to clarify the possiblilities in order to make breeding decisions
thanks for the help anyone
Eric
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#1 No, you will not get any normals when breeding a Sunglow to an Albino.

#2 You are correct and a Supersunglow is an albino Supersalmon(or Superhypo if you prefer), so it is possible.
 
Alex is correct.
A sunglow is an albino also. Albino x albino = lots of albinos. ;) But not really recommended.

The other combo also would be an albino x albino breeding, they just both have the hypo gene as well. It would produce all sunglows, (in theory) with some being super or double dose.
 
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If the sunglows that you are breeding are not supers, then you will have 25% albino and 75% sunglow. The sunglows will then be 33% possible supers. If one of the breeders is a super then all will be sunglows and 50% possible super.
AlbinoXsunglow will produce 50/50. If the sunglow is a super (super hypo) then all will be sunglows. Good luck!
 
It would work the same as a het albino x het albino, only the hets are visual.
Say, for instance, H=hypo and N= normal. HN x HN would give 25% HH, 50% HN, and 25% NN. If one was a super then all would be hypo and half would be supers.

I gotta take an aspirin now, lol.
 
heathn said:
It would work the same as a het albino x het albino, only the hets are visual.
Say, for instance, H=hypo and N= normal. HN x HN would give 25% HH, 50% HN, and 25% NN. If one was a super then all would be hypo and half would be supers.

I gotta take an aspirin now, lol.
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I dont think thats quite how it works. Hypomelanism is a co-dominant gene. If you had hypo x hypo you would end up with ALL hypo with 50%(ish) being SUPER (dominant) hypos. No normals.

If you hypo x normal you'd end up with 50%(ish) hypos, 50% normals

So for the original question of sunglow x albino. The albino gene is recessive. But since bothe parents are homozygous (visual) for albino you will have all albinos 50% of with will be sunglows.

None of this is exact by he way and the actual results can vary.

By the way albino x albino breeding is not a real good idea. Its been known to produce defects. :thumbsup:
 
Forgot the other question.

Breeding sunglow x sunglow will give you ALL sunglows, 50% of with will be super (dominant).

And by the way Rich, you had it right.
 
actually i beleive using the sqares you would get a quarter normal from hypo to hypo

--- H -- N

H - HH HN

N - HN NN
because normal hypos have a normal gene in them then there is a quarter chance of getting a normal with each snake ,50 percent chance normal hypo and a quarter super
 
sorry bud but its been discussed here before and a hypo is not a true codominant gene
because the super form of hypo is not visual different than the normal hypo.
A version of a true codominant gene would be the motely .
because when you create a super motely you get a distinctly different looking snake
im sure with some in depth reading or experience in this matter you will find it to be true
no insult implied but it has already been discussed here and explained by an experienced genetics guy
sorry bud, i hate proving you wrong but i wouldn't want you to be disapointed when you get a normal in your hypo +hypo breeding
Eric
 
Well we'll just have to agree to disagree

ericfire said:
if i breed sunglow to albino do i get all albino and sunglow or do i get some normals in there somewhere
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With all due respect, if you already know the answer, why do you ask the question?
 
i had asked the question to prove a buddy wrong
sorry i should have said that in the first place
but i already knew the asnwer

and good luck with your breeding ,but i would bank on your info if i were you
just a little advice
denial aint just a river in egypt
lol
sorry i shouldnt joke
 
Out of pure curiousity, do you have a link to the discussion where this "experienced geneticist" was?

I'd like to see where your getting your conclusions...and arragance for that matter.
 
sorry if i sounded bad but
the info is in here in the discussion forum
so if you are going to resort to name calling find it yourself or maybe when the moderators read this they will step in and point you in the right direction
i was just trying to help bud
Eric
 
There are ways to get your point across without being ass about it, and thats not on one them.

Like I said we'll have to agree to disagree......
 
ok here is the thread ,this should help(red pastel hypo anyone heard of one)
and im sure if you write this forum moderator laura cox she will give you the link to the genetics page since she helped in researching and writing it along with alot of other highly respected people

contacting will help you out
talk to you later bud
Eric
 
Thats all I was asking for. Like I said, I know a good amount about the subject, but not everything. And if theres something out there being discussed, Id like to read it and form my own conclusions.

And the name is Paul....not Bud.
 
herpman081 said:
There are ways to get your point across without being ass about it, and thats not on one them.

Like I said we'll have to agree to disagree......
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very well said ,we should be civilized and refrain from infantile name calling and insulting language like calling someone arrogant for no reason
it was nice talking to you bud.
Eric
 
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