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super motely

From what I was told, the genetic problems with the super motleys is that they develop air pockets in their spine after a few years. I have also heard the CA mots have had a few of the big time breeders keep them past the deadly 4 year mark.
You could always get a type 2 anery :D they are gorgeous!! And about as iridescent as you can get!
 
?>??????>????>????? how much is a super motley?? or a breeder male reg motley?????? all these replys and no one had an idea?
 
David, why would you want to buy a baby snake that dies in a year or so? doesnt make sense, so they arnt offered for sale usually. (although, im sure you can find them from someone who doesnt care about the animal :rolleyes:) breeder male Mots can be anywhere from $2000 up from what ive seen.
 
This is a type 2 anery :D
She's 2 years old, mine! As adults, they get gradually darker and very iradecent.
as for the price questions..
Super Motley's run anywhere from $700 to $1500, depending on who's selling it, and if it is a CA or not.
I had one last year I traded one of my super pandora's for.
I later traded him (plus some cash) to a lady who had purchased his sister as well (another super mot) and wanted the pair for display.
 

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Yea fellas, i just got a 08 female motley, and was thinking what i should do with her, Breed her or sell her. I dont want to buy a super motley..... but i might want to make one if i can. feed back please
 
davidsimon6 said:
Yea fellas, i just got a 08 female motley, and was thinking what i should do with her, Breed her or sell her. I dont want to buy a super motley..... but i might want to make one if i can. feed back please
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why would you want to make babies that are doomed to die from the start? that's simply selfish. if you want to breed her, wait the 2+ years she needs to safely breed and see whats out on the market then.
 
Breeding another animal is selfish in its own rule.
and everything is doomed to die from the start.
Once more, this is why i asked for feedback.
and most people tell me that 3 years and 6 feet is the going start point for females.
 
davidsimon6 said:
and most people tell me that 3 years and 6 feet is the going start point for females.
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Yes, that is the min. usually required for a female to be mature enough to breed. Doesn't mean they are guaranteed to ovulate, but that's the min size and age most people go with.

(Personally I let them get to 5yrs of age before trying.)
 
davidsimon6 said:
and most people tell me that 3 years and 6 feet is the going start point for females.
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I think 4 yrs is the "going start point", from what I have noticed...though I'm sure that there are some that figure 3 is good enough (heck, there are still people out there that say 2-2.5 is old enough - even though that has been proven to be detrimental to the general well being of the female).
 
hhmoore said:
I think 4 yrs is the "going start point", from what I have noticed...though I'm sure that there are some that figure 3 is good enough (heck, there are still people out there that say 2-2.5 is old enough - even though that has been proven to be detrimental to the general well being of the female).
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I agree. 4 years old is usually the age where they will properly ovulate and give you a nice litter. Forcing a female to breed too early will shorten her life, increase her chances of having problems with the first litter of probable slugs and I believe forcing them into early breeding can also effect litter sizes, quality and health of future litters.
 
Utta said:
Not from what I saw in the description (although, my german IS a little rusty) but it very well could be.

Heres another pic of a darker leopard from BlueMen Boas:
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Utta said:
That one is also just a "leopard" from the description as well.
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Yep, he is just a Leopard produced by Hans Winner in 2008 and purchased from Hans by Bill Kirby in Daytona. I feel lucky to have him, and he definitely is one of the darkest Leopards that I have seen. That's what is so neat about the Leopard gene, they have a variable pattern as well as color! Here are some more pictures of him for you guys to enjoy :). The outdoor shots were in June of 2010, and the indoor shots were taken this January in a photo tent (no flash was used).
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Thanks,
Kevin Blumenthal
http://www.blumenboas.com
 
wow he is gorgeous :eek: Have you bred him or are you planning to breed him Kevin? If you have bred him how did the babies turn out?
 
kblumenthal said:
Yep, he is just a Leopard produced by Hans Winner in 2008 and purchased from Hans by Bill Kirby in Daytona. I feel lucky to have him, and he definitely is one of the darkest Leopards that I have seen. That's what is so neat about the Leopard gene, they have a variable pattern as well as color! Here are some more pictures of him for you guys to enjoy :). The outdoor shots were in June of 2010, and the indoor shots were taken this January in a photo tent (no flash was used).

Thanks,
Kevin Blumenthal
http://www.blumenboas.com
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1st, i apologize for getting your name wrong :eek:

2nd, that is the best looking Leopard i think i have ever seen.
 
Utta said:
1st, i apologize for getting your name wrong :eek:
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Don't worry about it all, my name has been butchered for years :yesnod: - you weren't that far off either!

deobra2869 said:
wow he is gorgeous :eek: Have you bred him or are you planning to breed him Kevin? If you have bred him how did the babies turn out?
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He produced two litters last year. He was bred to a Leopard female as well as a Hypo het Leopard female. Here is a rotating .gif of some of the Leopards from the litters. The litters were 3.5 months apart which is why some of the Leopards are smaller than the others in the pictures. You can definitely see the variability of Leopards in these pics:

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Here is a rotating .gif of last season's highlight for me from these 2 litters - a Hypo Leopard :thumbsup::
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He currently is paired with the Hypo het Leopard female again, and that will be his only action for this year. Fingers crossed things will go well again. Thank you all for the very kind words, it's much appreciated!
Kevin Blumenthal
http://www.blumenboas.com
 
Kevin, I don't think I will ever tire of seeing that hypo leopard, outstanding!
 
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