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Bad Guy Tegus Only

Kayla, no one is attacking you or saying it is your fault. They are just asking for clarification on some points.

Also, the mod wants you to provide your fiancées full name, that way it isn't an anonymous third party quote.

The time line is to help us understand the situation better.


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Kayla, I'm sure if someone posted a bad guy thread about you, you would want the people reading it to reserve judgement until they had enough information. It's not an attack, it's just a request for more information.

People may or may not agree with you - but that doesn't mean that you're under attack.

I see two issues here: 1) the parasite issue, and 2) you appear to be upset that you didn't get the female you were asking about. The latter does not make the seller a bad guy, in my opinion. Sellers get a lot of people "interested" and they can't hold everything all the time. Just try again when there is stock available, or take your business elsewhere. It's frustrating, but it happens.

I would also be curious about the parasite timeline, as that is concerning.
 
I would rather Rodney weigh in on the matter himself, but something to consider is that he advertises a number of what are effectively wild caught (invasive) individuals in addition to some CB/CH animals. If they are getting a round of antiparasitic meds, for example, then that knocks out the mature/hatched organisms, but does not eliminate the residual encapsulated embryos or oocysts. If only a first round is performed and no second round is performed post-purchase, levels can build right back up in short order. I cannot speak to how many rounds he does or if there is isolation that would assist the value of these rounds. I would consider it advisable to perform at least two rounds and preferably with a confirmatory fecal analysis prior to additional rounds. Since many are declared as being wild caught, it would be prudent for buyers to approach them with extra wariness of potential hitchhikers or a proactive mindset on that topic. I know there are some animals (not necessarily tegus) whose loads are so high that three or more rounds may be needed. That said, I do not know how many rounds Rodney administers. I am just saying I -as a prospective buyer- would act like what would come in might need some roto-rooting to ensure clean booty duty when of WC origins. I have seen some crazy stuff in WC animals. Even after initial treatment.
 
Riinei said:
short fuse
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Riinei said:
Alright well I'm ending the thread here as I'm obviously at fault. Thanks for the help..
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I'm not sure the seller is the one with the short fuse. You made some allegations, and because we responded with questions for clarification instead of joining hands and giving the seller the evil eye, it looks like you've flounced off.

Come back and we will be interested in your answers. Don't come back, and it is your loss. If anyone ever made allegations against you, I'm pretty sure you would respect people who took the time to understand what was happening and ask questions to get at the truth.
The BOI is not a tar-n-feather drama-o-rama like you might see elsewhere, it is a business board. It functions well, because questions and answers give prospective buyers and sellers information by showing how buyers and sellers handle issues.
 
Riinei said:
Hello Bobby,

I was about to post this female on Kingsnake when I got your email.

I just took these pictures. She is 33 inches and in fine health.

If you like her, let me know right away. Her price is 250.00 plus 50.00 shipping

thanks,

Rodney Irwin
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Thank you for getting back to me, very interested in her. Is she the only available female?

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The only one I have right now that is not gravid.

will have some later after they lay.

rod
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Okay, I am definitely interested in her

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Hey Rodney,
Just checking to see if I can still get the female tegu.

Sent from my iPhone
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Rodney,
I'd like to know if the female is still available? I've been waiting patiently for a response from you.

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Hi Bobby,
Please call, text or email me
thanks
rod
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After this, I had texted him and asked if he had available females. He said no. I asked is there any reason why he sold the female I had agreed to take. Email back in response:

Hi Bobby,

If I am wrong here, I will man up and make it right. You need to understand that this time of year,
I get many calls from people wanting to buy adult females during the mating season and want to start breeding themselves.
I am reviewing our calls and emails and I need a little help understanding.

Keep in mind, many people call interested in a tegu. If they are serious, I ask for an email describing the tegu and send a
paypal request. Many times, I never hear from them again, they change their minds, do not have the money
to buy it, etc. I simply cant hold every one that someone is just interested in. I wish I could.

I see on april 6th : Okay, I am definitely interested in her.
Am I missing something or is that to mean : " I am going to buy that one . hold it and send paypal request"
If that is the case, I am wrong. Please show me where we both agreed on the sale and when.

When you get a chance, call me.
thanks,
Rodney Irwin

***Seeing how I sent 3 emails (shown above) asking for her, he still didn't understand I wanted the tegu?
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My response:
Yes that email was me saying I was going to take her. And I sent you an email a day after that asking if I could still take her and heard nothing back from you after that. I figured in the second email when I said "take" that would mean, yes I am actually taking her.
But like I said I didn't get a response from you. I wasn't aware there were specific words I had to say to hold her and ensure I will be guaranteed the tegu. And from my understanding, you won't hold tegus.
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Hey,

I don't want to be a hard ass here but I just went over the emails and I still don't see where you said you were going
to " take her" I agreed to hold her for you. When I know the tegu is going to a buyer I pull that tegu and
ship the next day or as soon as possible. I am a one man operation. this time of year I get hundreds of calls,text and emails.
I have seventeen different enclousres and about 150 tegus. It is bad for the tegu to be removed from its comfort area,
take pictures, then put somewhere while the customer make up their mind. Some people want to window shop
like at a pet store. Because of the scale of my operation, I just cant do it. In the future, I would suggest that
when you see something online, tell the seller: I want to buy that one right now, how do I pay and when can you ship.

Having said all this, I will search and try to find one just like the one you wanted or one of my females that
has laid. If this works for you let me know and we can do business no hard feelings.
Rodney

***But seeing my previous responses I sent him several asking when I could get her. At this point he becomes hostile
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If you'll be doing that route, then show me the email where you specifically said she will be held for me. Never once was that mentioned since you quit responding after I said I was interested. You didn't even bother to send me an email to say:
"Hey just checking to see if you want the female still as I have others interested."
It's just a bad way to do business honestly.
Sorry but I will take my business elsewhere.

Thanks
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What ? you want me to show you an email where I specifically said she would be held for you ? What are you talking about ?

I never said she would be, because you were only INTERESTED. I just made you a fair offer and you came back with this crap.

Let me know how your search for an adult female goes. good luck

rod
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I know Rodney Irwin of Tegusonly well. My 1.2 come from him, and I've visited his place. I am a wholehearted supporter of his work and product. His exchange here tells me that he was trying to do right by this person.
 
Walter1 said:
I know Rodney Irwin of Tegusonly well. My 1.2 come from him, and I've visited his place. I am a wholehearted supporter of his work and product. His exchange here tells me that he was trying to do right by this person.
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I'd like to hear his side of this exchange. I feel that some pertinent info has been left out.


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I purchased a tegu from Rodney last October. When my tegu was not eating he helped me thru it, I couldn't have been happier with my decision to buy from him. The only thing i dont like is he ships using usps. I hope he gets on here soon so things can hopefully be cleared up.
 
Looks like this BOI backfired. The buyer is now on my DO NOT SELL list because they are obviously the ones with the short fuse here. Wouldnt surprise me if others have already added the seller to their own Black Lists as well.
 
Riinei said:
Alright well I'm ending the thread here as I'm obviously at fault. Thanks for the help..
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Obviously...:rolleyes:

No, you're not at fault; at least from what I see. People on this forum just like the whole story, not snippets of what people think we would like to hear. You started the thread, so you should have known you would have been questioned a bit. If you can't stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen, but don't gripe and whine about how you're "obviously at fault" when we're practically having to pry the information out of you.

Good luck, as it seems your own attitude about things have put you on many people's do not sell to list. :rolleyes:
 
I got my tegu from Tegus Only. He arrived healthy and in good condition. I have had him about a year and a half and adore him. He's my favorite reptile I've ever had- despite being a wild caught adult, I can hand feed him, pet him, pick him up... all without problem. It was a quick and painless process to purchase him from Tegus Only. All I had to do was ask for an invoice to be sent, pay, and he was here the next day. The only bad thing I have to say about Tegus Only is that his shipping method sucks. My huge tegu was stuffed into a little box with just some bedding to cushion him from the outside. It was terrible. He REALLY needs to figure out a better method, as that must have been very uncomfortable (not to mention dangerous) for the tegu.
 
Kayla,kayla,kayla,
In January, you purchased a tegu from me. This is your email to me upon receiving it.
Kayla Clayton <[email protected]>
Jan 29


to me


We got him! He's big and healthy, thank you very much.


Then in April, at the height of the breeding season, you wanted an adult female. As I explained then,
I cannot hold tegus while you make up your mind.
Kayla Clayton <[email protected]>
Apr 1


to me


Hi Rodney,
I'm looking to purchase another tegu. Do you have any older females? I'd appreciate a few examples of what you have.

Reply Forward

TegusOnly . <[email protected]>
Apr 1


to Kayla


Hi Kayla,

As this is breeding season, I am not selling adult females at this time. I have some great males available
or smaller 16 -24 inch unsexed.
If you are ready to purchase, I will send pictures of the exact tegu I will be sending.
I can’t hold one aside for more than a day or so. (bad for tegus and me). Sooner would be better than later.
Rodney Irwin
You never arranged to purchase, asked about payment, or delivery. Just said you were
interested and this is after I had just explained that I can’t hold tegus while you make up
your mind.

I have all 27 of the emails between you and I. I never became hostile with you.
I am a professional. Not sure what you are.
If you have anything to prove otherwise, post it now.
As stated in the BOI rules “If there is mention of anyone's words (I heard this or someone told me that), then that person needs to be identified by name” This is needed to keep people like you from making statements like this.
“this man has a short fuse and so many others who have dealt with him know he is very unprofessional and becomes very hostile when anything against his business is brought to his attention.”

I am not sure what to say about this:
“As for my parasite infested tegu, here's the paperwork. (He turned out to be female by the way after I asked for a male)”
Sooo, You bought a tegu from me that was : (your words) “Big and healthy”
Then wanted to buy another one without committing to purchase.
Now, after having the tegu in your care for 5 months, you show a ‘Vet report’
that is not dated, have the name of the vet, or your name as the person ordering it.
Then you say the tegu died while under your care.

Now, following all this, you, as an amateur hobbyist, attempt to drive my customers
by making false statements with respect to how my animals are kept after I rescue them
from a massive state effort to euthanize thousands from the same areas I trap.
I have, to date, captured and rehomed over fifteen hundred tegus. It is a full time
job that I do with passion because it is not their fault. It takes a great deal of money
and commitment to do what I do. Bottom line is this: the tegu that is not purchased
by a customer due to your rantings, will probably be killed. Do not even try to
to act as if care about tegus. If you can capture, build enclosures, feed and care for
several hundred tegus at any given time. Do it, or remain silent.

It is important for people to be aware of what is happening here.
I spend a great deal of time and money to inform the public and focus
on this problem. Video projects are an effective method to reach and inform.
I do not charge or make profit for this work. I do so because it is necessary.
I created and designed this video to generate impact and attention in the same way
the ASPA, Feed the Children and others use intense content to convey a message.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFjD2PTVBbYideo
The tegu was in no danger. My bullets go where I tell them. As far as stress
to the tegu, pay close attention to its reaction in the trap. Note the lack of
stressful actions or movement and consider the fact that it is one less that
will be killed.
As far as your accusation : “He doesn't treat these animals properly, they're crawling all over each other in over crowded enclosures”. How would you know? It takes large enclosures to house large numbers. I have that. As a hobbyist, how much do you know about tegu behavior in a group environment? They are very social animals that prefer to be together in a group. I have large enclosures that allow them to freeroam and go where they want.
http://youtu.be/an1R_wsDp4w
I hope you have learned something here and will think a little before using a reputable
site like Tegutalk as your personal weapons platform.
Rodney Irwin
Owner
Tegusonly.com
 
If the time ever come to purchase a Tegu, Rodney would be my first call. I've never talked to or done business with him but I have a respect for what he does. Based on what I've seen here, he's NOT a bad guy.

For future posters of smear campaigns, these BOIs are not taken lightly and we are not very easily persuaded. We need proof and facts to come to a conclusion, not just half of the information or opinions.
 
Kayla, this really backfired on you. You have a very short fuse and resort to accusations without proof or having any base knowledge of exactly what you are saying. You went tire kicking and hurt your foot. Definitely going to be on a lot of people's "DO NOT SELL" list.
 
tegusonly said:
Bottom line is this: the tegu that is not purchased
by a customer due to your rantings, will probably be killed.
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I think highly of most BOI readers. They come here to check out sellers (and buyers) and the vast majority can see through hostile unsubstantiated rants.
Rodney I hope you find homes for all of your tegus, and that you continue what you are doing for a long time.


tegusonly said:
I hope you have learned something here and will think a little before using a reputable
site like Tegutalk as your personal weapons platform.
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I think that if she goes elsewhere, they will see through her as well. There are good people there, and some of them visit here and will have read this thread.
Jet76 said:
If the time ever come to purchase a Tegu, Rodney would be my first call.
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:iagree:
 
If I am ever in the market for a tegu, I will also purchase from Rodney. I applaud is work.


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tegusonly said:
Bottom line is this: the tegu that is not purchased
by a customer due to your rantings, will probably be killed.
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This quote confuses me.
Are you saying that if you can't sell a tegu that you have caught, that you'll kill it?
Or is it more of a general statement, that you need to move out tegus in order to save more, and if you can't save more, the ones you don't catch will be caught by other people and they will kill them?

Are you personally killing tegus?
 
Sara, when I read that quote I associated it with an earlier one:
tegusonly said:
after I rescue them
from a massive state effort to euthanize thousands from the same areas I trap.
I have, to date, captured and rehomed over fifteen hundred tegus.
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and took it to mean that it is the state that is killing this critters if Rodney does not get to them first.
 
Fat and Happy tegu from Tegus Only
 

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