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Terry Lilley - Tried selling me my own animal

It seems that this thread has strayed way off course, however, I can't let Ritchie's last post go with out my 2 cents.
Mr. Ferret I am proud and honored to have you serve our country!! it is because of men and woman in all of the armed forces that we have the freedom's that we are acustomed to!! and I'm glad that you are here in the States defending the home land!! keep up the good work and keep sniffing out the bad guys at home and on the BOI!!
 
FACE FACTS

The guy has issues!

What more can be said about someone that wants someone like ritchie dead in the desert?

Joel has issues, he stated himself that he "snapped," in his last post.... kinda reminds me of some of the wackos I see while watching forensic files!

I really don't think any of us will hear back from Lilley. He seems to be selling his reptile business. If he is half the success he makes out then why is he selling?
 
I really don't think any of us will hear back from Lilley. He seems to be selling his reptile business. If he is half the success he makes out then why is he selling?
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I don't know. Maybe he is selling because he needs the money for a lawyer.... Maybe someone reported him for smuggling or something. I wish I knew... I was thinking the exact same thing.

Lilley is SO successful and having a good ole time that he has decided to sell......hmmmmmm
 
Mr. Lilley said that he wants to sell his business so that he can open a reptile zoo here. I was very interested and asked him about it, (who wouldn't be excited about a herp zoo in their town!?) but apparently he is having problems getting money to build it.

Chelsie Romulo
 
reptile zoo

I don't know, it doesn't make much sense to me.... sell the "oh so successful business" to get into a business that gurantees little returns.

Many zoo's struggle to stay open!

The big zoo's have big financial backing, but a zoo starting out is a different story.
 
Thanks Joel, you just made it easy for anyone trying to find information on you easy to find it. I'm just kinda upset I didn't get made fun of for being a hillbilly too. After all, I grew up about two miles from where Dolly Parton grew up in the mountains of East Tennessee. I like to get on the bad side of people like you, it lets me know I'm doing something right. Ritchie, don't let him get to you. He wouldn't say it to your face. :)
 
The Hillbillies Have It!

Darin and I are from the same neck of the same woods, so I guess I must be a hillbilly, too?

That must make my husband a Canadian Hillbilly......is that a new morph?

Joel, it's obvious that Fauna and the BOI are very important to you. Only something that matters to you could evoke such an emotional response.

But, back to the subject at hand........

If Mr. Lilley sells the entire entity, would the new owners become liable for any sort of legal action brought by customers prior to their ownership? I thought I read that there is current litigation pending against Mr. Lilley.
 
If litigation is current, then I doubt anything would carry to someone else who was not previously involved. Also, if someone has the money to pay that much, they have a decent lawyer who will make sure that Lilley's indiscretions remain his.
 
Just a funny little thought I would like to share with you guys. Nearly every established business that is sold, is purchased because the new owner has the incoming benefit of getting the clientel and name recognition of an established brand instead of starting from scratch. WOW! In this case that is really one big bonus. Evan Stahl
 
In SLO???

A reptile zoo in San Luis? Either Lilley was pulling your leg or he's a fool soon to be parted from his money. Just have a look at the Charles Padock Zoo in Atascadero, it's been struggling since I was a kid, and I'll bet it still is.........and they actually do have more than just reptiles. (In fact, if I recall, Atascadero had very few reptiles, but they have a Lion and a bear~ I remember when we got the 3 legged sun bear.....was quite the big deal in such a small town!)

That entire area is just a place to slow down on the 101 on your way to San Fransisco or LA. Tourists rarely stop there, and when the do it won't be for a "Zoo" when there is bigger and better not to far down the 101.
 
For the Record

"Hillbilly" is a generic term used to describe peoples of inadequate genetics and substandard culture that live in the hills. A male hillbilly is referred to as a "Hilljack" and a female hillbilly is a "Hilljane".

"Redneck" is the southern variant but not an actual subspecies. You might call it a "phase" for collecting purposes. This phase is common in the coastal plains of the southeastern United States. They can usually be identified by casual observation as in the summertime the males develop redish coloration on the neck and forearms similiar to the way it occurs in broadheaded skinks in breeding season. Sexes are not uniquely identified for the southern variant since their behavior is similiar exept that males occassionally engage in homosexuality when in audio range of banjo music.

For those that question this analysis please see the owner of the campground on Rt 45 in Hyde Cnty who happens also to be the major of Hydeland, NC and I'm sure after a few beers you will properly educated on the subject.
 
at it again

Well it appears that Mr. Lilley is at it again. I have been in contact with someone that was offered some Varanus Griseus (Iran Desert Monitors) from Mr. Lilley.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=53&de=69426

This person was told that
Seller says that they are captive born and all they need to give me is a "reciept" that states that the animals are on a "permanent breeding loan". This paperwork is all I would need according to him and I would not need anything else.
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In case you are not aware this species is not only C.I.T.E.S. APP I, but is also ESA protected. Therefore this species has the requirement of an ESA Captive Bred Permit (on both buyer and seller) in order to cross state lines. As you can see this person was not informed about the legality of the intrastate travel of this species and would have been subject to prosecution. I just got off the phone with USFW DMA to double check and this species is 100% ESA protected and the buyer and seller MUST have ESA permits for the animal to transport across state lines. This buyer has read this thread and asked whether they should post on here and I told them YES. I hope they do so that more proof will show to prove what kind of person Mr. Lilley truly is.
 
So, Mr Lilley is apparently trying to circumvent the law by lying about the status (breeding loan vs sale) of an animal. Has USFWS been made aware of this? I'm sure they'd be interested in having that email exchange forwarded to them- I believe the applicable address would be [email protected].

That being said, I'm gonna have to ask you to identify the source of your quote Rob. Anonymous quotes have to be treated the same as anonymous posts, and I would hate to see that little tidbit get deleted.
 
Rob,

I have told the person they should post on here for everyone to see. The persons name is Shayne. I do not have a last name as of now but this person posted on KS looking to see if this deal was too good to be true. This is how I came to be in contact with them regarding the status of an APP I animals. I was not aware it was Mr. Lilley until after I had discussed the situation.
http://forum.kingsnake.com/CITES/messages/239.html

Also USFW Division of Law Enforcement has been notified about this situation and said they are going to check into it further.
 
If his animals are 100% legal, I am sure he can obtain the paperwork to cross state lines...lmfao.
 
Well guys, it doesn't look like Terry is coming back to this thread. It is a shame. I would love to read just 1 answer from the guy to an actual statement made instead of subject changes and his claims that we wrote something different than what is clearly posted here.

Evan Stahl
 
IT'S A BIT HARD

It's a bit hard to come back and face the fire (questions) when you have burned yourself as bad as he did!
 
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