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The dreaded IBD

salottimc said:
Were these three snakes from the same source? The reason I ask is because I am assuming they all passed away in a fairly short time frame. If they are from different places and all died fairly close to the same time as the others, you might be looking at something else.

This might not make any difference, but do you live feed? If so, do you house these mice/rats together?
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Just curious, what would you have to worry about disease wise with this? Only thing i can think of is parasites?


I hope that the test comes back negative and everyone else will be ok. Just reminds me how important a strict quarantine is, even if the snakes come from a good place and seem healthy.
 
I couldnt agree more. from now on, if my collection pulls through, im setting up a new quarantine procedure. this is miserable to go through! Im so scared to walk into my snake room just because i dony want to see anymore dead!
 
I asked about live feeding because of parasites and protozoa. Both (especially the latter) can cause a whole array of problems, and both can lead to a bacterial infection that can kill a snake. There are so many types with different symptoms, that I cannot find information on the rarer ones.

Some of the information doesn't add up to IBD. These snakes were from different sources, but housed together with other snakes. If I am reading correctly, these three snakes all died around the same time. Other snakes that were housed with these snakes are doing fine. This leads me to believe that these three snakes were exposed to something around the same time that didn't necessarily affect all of them. Perhaps something from a food source. If these live feeders were housed together, it becomes more likely that multiple specimens could have been infected with these parasites or protozoans. These, would then, pass to the snakes through feeding. If one got sick with an RI or something else, the infected snakes would be more susceptible. Just a thought.
 
that would be something to think about except, although these were all "babies" they were not eating the same size rodents. i had one eating fuzzies, one on hoppers, and one on mice. the only feeders that came out of my private stock is were the mice. anything smaller came from the local store. the snake eating the mice died last. and they were only housed together for a short time, due to a few females becoming aggressive. then everyone was seperated and they all went back to normal attitudes. and all of the other snakes in my collection eat out of my rodent stock- and they are still alive and healthy.... for now....!
i appreciate the thought though. =)
 
I feel for you. I had something wipe out my entire collection with the exception of my Macklot's pythons many years ago. I had a necropsy done on my male ball and all they could tell me for sure that it was not IBD or crypto. :( Vet said it was something akin to rabies and aids combined.

I do hope that whatever is wrong is curable.
 
Ive had to deal with protozoans from feeders before. Killed 3 snakes if I remember correctly (it was years ago) and made another sick which wouldve died probably had I not used antibiotics. Jamis problem did not sound like the protozoan symptoms I experienced or I wouldve suggested the same. Of course, like micheal suggested, I guess there could be different ones which create different problems.
 
yeah, no telling what it is.

just going to have to wait for results and go from there!

Daily update though- no more dead, and none showing symptoms of illness!
 
That is very good news! Losing any pet is tough enough, but thinking the rest might succumb to this illness is absolute torture.
 
Have you seen any respiratory symptoms? Take a look at the thread that is linked in my signature. I've been through a situation like this with an unidentified Paramyxovirus and I'd be curious if it's in any way related.

Melissa, how long ago did you lose your collection? What were the symptoms?
 
Great news! Not that theres an infection, but that its not IBD at least. Is it looking like the rest of your collection is going to be okay?
 
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