The next kingsnake?

[HerpVenue]

To both Steves,
Thanks for veryfiying my story. Like I told one of you... It was not necessary. The proof has to come from the accuser. And he has accused me of felonious things. But I thank you for verifying it. I was kinda hoping Rackell would show up and also do the right thing by verifying my story. But that would mean she would be going against the admin and risk getting banned herself. I can't really blame her too much for that. It is amazing that after one post I would get automatically banned because I decided to speak out and point out his error........but hey like I said it was not necessary. But I very much thank you nonetheless.

I called him a liar and he wanted to sue me for slander.

Then he goes and accuses me of at least two(2) separate felonious actions. (Without proof). But am I gonna threaten to get my lawyer? Nah. He is not worth my time or my money. I have snakes and supplies to buy with my money and refuse to spend it on a liar.

Mario,
look up the word libel and then talk to your lawyer.
I am still waiting for the paperwork to be served.
Maybe I can have more money for even more snakes.
Good luck trying to back peddle out of these recent posts.
And Happy Valentines Day to you and yours.

 

[Rakell G]

Ritchie said:QUOTE]I was kinda hoping Rackell would show up and also do the right thing by verifying my story. But that would mean she would be going against the admin and risk getting banned herself. I can't really blame her too much for that. It is amazing that after one post I would get automatically banned because I decided to speak out and point out his error........[/QUOTE]

Accept my apologies for not spending hours a day on this board. Ya know, i do have a life...
And I am not going to be banned for anything I do. Mario is not the "ban-happy" fool that you guys are portraying him to be. When he does what he does, he has reason for.
So dear, what exactly do you want me to verify?

 

[CindyLex]

The people in this thread are without standards. Steve was banned for violating the rules. Mario has clearly showed and demonstrated this. Steve has falsely presented himself here and his story at hand. It is clearly displayed many times over were Steve was not shooting a strait arrow. I seen him lie many times in here and try to hide everything. Sounds to me like both of these people have personal grudges against the other. But I do think things were vary unfair here.
Mario’s evidence was always dismissed or twisted around. Others have made false accusations stemming from either misinterpretation or to just hurt someone else. And even the witnesses were not being totally upfront.
One thing I have noticed, is there did seem like an awful lot off gaining up on one person. Seemed like Ritchie Really had it in for Mario from the start. I think Ritchie was favoring Steve because of friendship. I seen talk in here about them talking off the forum. I’m not saying that’s bad, but the way he attacked Mario was. It seemed like a lot of people wanted to take pop shots. Too me I see this as a gang beating. That’s the way I seen it. Mario showed that Steve had no or little credibility. Any evidence Mario presented was quickly dismissed and twisted around. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Someone said it right, a bunch of hot-heads in here. I do not know what is worse. The witness that did not saying anything at first, or the people attacking anyone that stood up for him. The people at this forum are supposed to be professionals; they need to act like it.
It’s a shame that someone can come to this board and make false accusations on someone. Then when the person tries to defend themselves, has withstand the abuse of everyone here. Heck some people didn’t even read the conversations without quickly dismissing them and attacking.

Vary sad, vary sad,
Cindy Lex

 

[HerpVenue]

It’s a shame that someone can come to this board and make false accusations on someone.

Yeah you are right. Isn't it a shame that Mario accuses me of sending him a trojan and he does not show any proof? He also accuses me of "hacking" into his site and he does not have any proof. But according to you. He proved his story. I guess I missed it. Did you know he just accused me of commiting two (2) felonies and he did not show proof? did you know that is pretty darn close to libel? did you know that his actions could warrant a legal recourse? But I won't go there.

And isn't it a shame that Steve got banned by Mario, and Mario's only proof is the way Steve acted on the competitions board in the past?

You say Steve lied.
Can you quote where he lied?
You said Mario proved his case.
His proof is quoting what Steve did in the past to another board....and Mario condoned it. But go ahead and believe in him blindly.

Yes it is true me and steve talked. Want to know what we talked about? He sent me what I posted. He told me who he got it from. If that means we are sneaking around discussing things with each other... oh well I am guilty.

 

[HerpVenue]

Cindy,
I hope you do not mind me asking a couple things. I think I may have the right since your first ever post happens to be on this thread.

1. What is your real last name?
2. Where are you from?

 

[HerpVenue]

whoops I hit return

anyway I am also asking because your train of thought.
Your arguements. And your thoughts about everyone here just seems to be exactly like Mario's.


and Rackell.
I just wanted verification as to my post that is now hidden in your super secret forum. Is it as I posted? Or did I add something? or did I conveniently lose something? Or did I just fake the whole thing to cover my butt as Mario "suggested"

 

[HerpVenue]

Hey Mario, whoops I mean Cindy or whoever it really is.
I am now out of this thread.
I will not participate in a thread where people sign on just to protect Mario and it turns out they are using a proxy server to hide from. Your last name is probably not even lex

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I am outa this thread. My point has been proven anyway.
And that is Mario is lying....I mean "suggesting"

 

[Rakell G]

yup. computer illiterate, hmmm. yeah whatever. OMG i bet there arent thousands of users on proxy servers out there.

Ok i will verify that the posts that were moved to our TOP SECRET SACRED UNDERGROUND-LAIR FORUM are still there, and still in thier virgin form. No posts have been altered. Nothing has been changed. It's all there. So what does this prove?

This is worse than jury duty. :roll:

 

[Rakell G]

AND ANOTHER THING>>>>>>>>>

why dont we all just get along, and enjoy this fine Valentine's Day?

C'mon, spread the love....... ~~~{@
Enough is enough [dot. period. end of statement.] (.)

 

[Ken Harbart]

I also find it rather curious that we have a new user, who registered for the exclusive purpose of replying in this thread that just happens to be using an anonymous proxy server. Now, the cop in me is wondering why someone would desire to hide their identity.

I'm also wondering why my simple question about the alleged malicious code has gone unanswered, since Mario has surely had ample opportunity to see it and respond.

Much ado has been made about credibility... "Mario showed that Steve had no or little credibility." As has been previously stated, the person who's credibility has been damaged the most by Mario is his own. As for "evidence," I have yet to see any real evidence of anything in this thread, other than foolish pride and pseudoreasoning.

Finally, since a fuss was made earlier in the thread over copyrights, 17 USC 107 is the statute that governs "fair use," if I remember correctly. Thus far, all of the items that I've seen posted in this thread would appear to pass legal muster.

 

[Mario]

I just have to defend my copyrights again
Fair use doesn’t extent when an entire document was been copied.
I’m sure there are a few things in violation here with this.
There is also a policy set in place he was well made aware of. It is right in the moderators only forum as well that he has violated. This was is finny reason for being banned. Here is a direct quote from it. “Everything here is private from the rest of the forum so we are free to speak about conduct of members and such and discuss about any action that should be token. But please remember. Anything discussed in here is for us only, and not to be shared with non-mod’s. You can loose your status for this.”
After his post on the BOI was to my attention, he was then banned.
His sarcastic abuse to a member along with disclosing private documents of Gecko Network and or Herpetologists Gecko Forums were enough to take these messages to ban him. We was ell made of the polices in place. They have always been available to him. He knew the rules and did otherwise. Period. As you said, you were a cop, this does not make you an expert in copyright laws. What not you know about them I cannot comment But just because you are or may have been doesn’t make you an expert. I have the right to protect the integrity of Gecko Network, myself, and Herpetologists Gecko Forums. I’m sorry you people so not agree with that, but that is my right.

 

[Mario]

Also I do have a copy of a post where he has done this with one of Ron Trempers works as well.

Yes Steve I still have that. I had to create a new forum just becouse of this. Only the admins are gained access to this as it's mostly for when mederators brake the rules. And it was created becouse of Steves actions.

Good bye.

 

[Ken Harbart]

Fair use doesn’t extent when an entire document was been copied.

This is not necessarily true. An entire forum post or email can be copied, and fair use still apply. There is no set guideline on how much or how little can be copied.

And, for the third time, I'll query as to the malicious code you were allegedly sent... Was it a Trojan or a worm? Also, what specific Trojan or worn were you sent?

 

[CindyLex]

Actually to be frank, I do not care to be hacked for sticking up for someone. You people are nuts. Your playing Judge, Jury, and Executioner with peoples lives. I seen how people were attacked, and I also seen talk of hack attempts and viruses. I do not want to be one of your victims for defending someone that I feel is right. I’m done with this board and said what was on my mine.

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Cindy

In all fairness to you since you are new to this site, I have been monitoring and participating here for the last year and Mario's wild accusations regarding hacking and viruses are the only ones I can recall. Some members here (Ritchie and Neil immediately jump to mind) can get a tad feisty at times but, regardless of the occasional outburst, an amazing amount of crap gets sifted through here to arrive at the truth far more often than not. A lot of people have avoided getting royally screwed by paying attention to what is posted here.

 

[Mario]

Here is what was sent. Obviously if it was him that sent this, he would know what was sent. So I rescanned it to look it up. It was a W32.Klez.H@mm worm. When I originally got it, I scanned it and thought it was a Trojan. I did say Trojan/worm in a other post. This was to cover all bases. I was under the impression worms and Trojans did the same thing. Forgive me but I am no virus expert. I come from the old day when they were just that, virus’s. Everyone here kept calling it every sort of thing in that ball park. Even though worms and Trojan horses are not the same thing, they are similar. Trojans create a back door into a computer. Worms I believe replicate and send out emails while often times grabbing personal files from your computer and sending them out to people in the address book and such. Either way, they are both violations to a computers security.
As far as the sender, again, I did not say who sent it. I speculate and assume that Ritchie did. I stated it came from someone of that same ISP as his. It’s you people the way you run your mouths and speculate this and that and he said this or that and soon twist it around as I did say he did this or that. This has happened through this whole big ordeal.
I am still waiting from the appropriate parties on this matter before I comment any more. But it is too coincindtial with everything going on to have came from the same ISP as his. Generally these things are from AOL ip’s.
And with the advent of someone gaining access as well to a file off my website, things to look suspicious. Just cause I found out its not a Trojan but a worm, it’s still a serious matter. But I think what I said is safe to say. Cause who ever did it if intention knows what they did and what they sent out. If someone didn’t do it intentially then obviously if there is someone else here with that ISP, they will be able to scan their systems to know. I do understand how they work. This is the only reason I am even saying anything about it at this time. Because everything I do say future gets twisted around anyways.
I want to also clarify something so this whole big argument as well can be laid to rest. Especially before it gets even more blown out of hand. I was reading some of the past post’s. Where Ritchie I believe it was said I condone Steve’s actions. I was also at a misunderstanding of the word. Though I think it was also used in a derogatory way as well. To me, condoning Steve’s actions means to agree and praise to his actions. I do not agree with his actions or praise his actions for trolling the board. But I looked up the word. And it states: “To overlook, forgive, or disregard (an offense) without protest or censure.”. Now this can still be token a few different ways. Obviously with this board I have to clarify my self. But at the time, before the rude and obscene comments came out, if the word condone was meant to in the sense to disregard without protest or censor, then this may be half correct. I said half. The reason is. I did moderate the forums I was in charge of. I believe I even messaged Cody my leaving a PM about this cause it happened in forums I was not moderator of as well, so that was the only way to do anything about. Now however. This was before Steve told me his actions. So after I was aware of Steve doing this. For the most part, their was nothing I can do. The Admin was already aware of the situation. While you can say I didn’t protest to his actions, that’s not the most accurate way to describe it. I did moderate the forums I was in charge of until it was way out of my control. For the most part, Steve new I had no control over the other forums their. Steve also did not start doing his profanities until later. This is when even the irony in it wasn’t even funny any more. But by then I already had knowledge of Steve doing this. But by taking it to a new level, that was very obsessive. And I did not condone that to any sense of the word. Like I mentioned before. Even if I said anything, I would have been told “As for people posing as others, please don't accuse anyone.”. Yes that is an exact statement from an email from the administrator. I would probably have also been told “I don't need you blaming people and losing visitors to this site. These fights are costing my site money so hopefully it is all behing us now.” As well.
The statements from Cody where in response to me asking for help when someone was using my name to deceive other members to insinuate more problems. I was told this from one of the people that was deceived. He did catch on something was fishy and notify me. This is how I even knew anything was up. Like I said before, their was nothing I could do. Becouse unlike this time, I didn’t even know who it was that was doing this and asked for help to find the person and stop this. And I was accused of accusing people. This is the type of person that ran Gecko Expert. This is why I could only but laugh at the irony. This is why condone was a bad choice of words to even be used. But if I have to explain every little detail or risk getting attacked on it, this would consume all my energies to have to deal with this foolishness. Again, I have not lied to you. I have these emails to back this up. I do want to point one thing out. He has also stated the site was not to make money and the have not made a dime. I believe he has said this publicly. It may have been in a PM. I am not currently sure if I have proof of this (which appears to be a joke here, nothing is proof here if you are the accused). But this was a statement after he has accused me of costing his site money.
There are many nasty little secrets that went on their that people do not know about. But I do have the emails all saved. One day I may release more info on the way things were ran their. I currently release it only when I feel it pertains to something important.
Now you people want to attack me on the way I feel I was mistreated their? I have plenty to suggest why I feel the way I do about that place. I also have plenty on why I feel about another place as well. I had good reason to have kept my moth silent and bite my tong then when the trolling was going on. Things just collapsed on top of it’s self. But you can’t say I didn’t do my job, because I did.
I even found more transcripts with a other members on Steve’s trolling as well. These were after the obsceneness has started. My attitude was clearly different then laughing at the irony involved then. But as we know here from experience, this isn’t any evidence to you people. I have been accused of just typing it all up. Sorry people, but these are the things that happened. This is why my site is here. Because it wasn’t pretty on the other side of the fence.
Now, we will get into a other are of discussion or misunderstanding.
This part of my post on my site that was quoted

Mario: "Come one, come all
Come to the greatest show on earth
Where members of all ages can intaganize and rip apart of the gecko community at large
Welcome to the BOI

Was part on a large sarcastic remark as this whole thread has been ridicules? But he next line said “Hey everyone, want to come to the roast Mario Club?”. There were more to is that was more serious as well. But gees, it just gives u more things too took for to attack me on. But as you can see, I am clearly unhappy with the way things are ran here. I am embarrassed to have told others in the past to have come here. I was not aware how unfair and unjust things where ran here until now.
But I would like to point something out. A word and one letter was left out (not to mention misspelled). It should have stated “Where members of all ages can BE intaganizeD and rip apart of the gecko community at large ”. But it was clearly a sarcastic remark. Unfortunate Ritchie has to take it serious. I assume to declare forum war. IT was also not in bold type on my page was he did here in quote form. It’s clear to me why this was done. Again, this was sarcasm. You all know I have dyslexia, but things again get twisted around.
But there is most defiantly truth to this. Anyone of any age can be accused here. I had a private discussion in PM format with webslave about using full names and had talk about my concern with younger members using full names. So it does stem from that as well. And I have been nothing but antagonized and ripped apart (again, notice antagonize wasn’t even spelled right as well). As the way this board goes, im not even going to comment if this was intentional or on accident. But I was not lying as I keep getting accused of. And the community at large. That’s obvious.

But like I said I had to clarify some things. Your talking what 16 pages now of BS. Mistypes and misconfusions are going to happen. Especially when someone’s dyslexic. I’m just you can find many of them on my site as well. But you people still seem to enjoy attacking me on my English skills. How this has any barring on why Steve Beckerman was even banned is beyond me. I am so upset with the way you people act here. I just found these instances the other day. It’s the same deal as you cannot proof read your own work. I am the same way but worse. You people are nothing but gun-ho to make big news in the reptile community and fry someone, half of you didn’t even fully read or understand the arguments I made. No one could understand my witness was scared to say anything without evidence. And the way you through any of it away, it’s certainly not going to make it easy for her to speak. She will show her anger, but she knows what you people do to people. She’s not about to jump in a lion pit. I have gotten very upset with her. This is why she even said anything. Because we are good friends and she was standing on the side not saying anything. I value her friendship a lot. It was terribly hurtful when this happened. I can fully understand where shes coming from, but cant understand how she could have sat their and let it happen as close as we are.
You know if you people expect things to be fair here, you can’t antagonize someone’s witness. People have been nothing but jumped on for saying anything supportive for me. So when witnesses are too scared to go against the same community that is their marketplace and risk loosing everything they worked so hard for, of course they aren’t going to say anything. But this certainly is not going to get the truths out. All I did was get beat up for it. Heck many details are fuzzy. You are talking about things that happened over time from last year and go pack to probably the year for that even. And I certainly want to avoid leaving anything out that would come back and bite me. Accident or not, it’s meat for the lions. You people act like I’m going to cave end and like expose some huge controversy or something. I don’t know.
Anyways ways I wanted to clarify those things. They probably would have cleared some of this up earlier, but I just noticed them.
Anyways I am done unless it’ cilivilized in here and not attacks.

 

[HerpVenue]

As far as the sender, again, I did not say who sent it. I speculate and assume that Ritchie did. I stated it came from someone of that same ISP as his. It’s you people the way you run your mouths and speculate this and that and he said this or that and soon twist it around as I did say he did this or that

Okay....to use your own train of thought. I will not say you are a stupid Retard. I will just "assume" you are a stupid Retard. Kind of a dumb reasoning don't you think? And Rackell totally agrees with your reasoning too..............sheesh

It was a W32.Klez.H@mm worm.

I get those everyday. I got them at least seven times today. I just delete them. And no they do not usually come from aol. man I can't believe you are gonna come here and complain because you got that mailed to you once. As aforementioned....I have received at least seven (7) of them on 2/14/03. Gee with all this stuff going on...Maybe I should assume it was from you.

To overlook, forgive, or disregard (an offense)

LOL = Laughing out loud. that is all you did when he told you he was trolling one of the boards.

you telling these people that you assume the trojan was from me is the exact same thing as you telling these peple it WAS from me.

Man you keep back peddling.

Rackell,

Ok i will verify that the posts that were moved to our TOP SECRET SACRED UNDERGROUND-LAIR FORUM are still there, and still in thier virgin form. No posts have been altered. Nothing has been changed. It's all there. So what does this prove?

What does this prove? I posted it here. Mario "suggested" that I just typed it up to cover my @ss. I will ask you again since you conveniently avoided it. Is what I posted here the exact same word for word that appears in your "super secret put everything here to cover Mario's @ss forum"?


Cindy,
It is nice you have the exact same argument as Mario.
It is nice that you are using a proxy IP
It is nice that you guys follow the same train of thought.
It is nice that you mispell some of your stuff the same
It is also nice how you both use the same word "gaining" up on.
MArio...whoops I mean Cindy. It is also nice that you registered just to defend yourself...whoops I mean Mario.


Mario,
SURPRISE..... Not only is English my second Language... I am also slightly dislexic. So get your pity somewhere else. Your lame excuse won't work with me.

I showed my evidence and that should have been that.

Where is the evidence that I sent you that virus?
Where is the evidence that I hacked into your computer?
Where is my post that you are using as your "big evidence"?

And where is the paper work that says I am gonna get sued? oh yeah. That was just one of your useless scare tactics and lies.

Obviously if it was him that sent this, he would know what was sent.

SURPRISE !!!! I did not know what was sent. So obviously I did not send it.

 

[HerpVenue]

But I would like to point something out. A word and one letter was left out (not to mention misspelled). It should have stated “Where members of all ages can BE intaganizeD and rip apart of the gecko community at large ”.

1. The word is ANTAGONIZE
2. Your sentence STILL does not make sense.

But as you can see, I am clearly unhappy with the way things are ran here. I am embarrassed to have told others in the past to have come here.

I have to agree with you. It is embarassing for you. Specially now that the world can see that you lied and then you try to back peddle and say that you just "assumed" or "suggested". It is also embarrassing how you say you put everything out in the open....then in another post admit to hiding things in your secret forum.

But it was clearly a sarcastic remark. Unfortunate Ritchie has to take it serious. I assume to declare forum war.

HUH?
Follow along
Come one come all to Mario's forum where he runs things like an idiot.
Gee I was just being sarcastic. I do not mean to start a forum war. I was not saying you ar an idiot. I was just assuming.
What kind of back peddling, double talking, reasoning is this?

I give up.
I will definately not come back to this thread.
No matter what I do....there is no more help for this guy.
And to think that Rackell just follows him blindly.....or is too scared of getting banned. PICK ONE.
His reasoning and train of thoughts are something else.

Mario,
do not address me again.
The only time I want to see you address me is when I get served my papers from your pretend lawsuit from your ptretend lawyer.

A final good bye.
may you all have better luck trying to figure out what the heck he is trying to say and spell and lie about and suggest and assume.

 

[Rakell G]

Rackell,

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Ok i will verify that the posts that were moved to our TOP SECRET SACRED UNDERGROUND-LAIR FORUM are still there, and still in thier virgin form. No posts have been altered. Nothing has been changed. It's all there. So what does this prove?
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What does this prove? I posted it here. Mario "suggested" that I just typed it up to cover my @ss. I will ask you again since you conveniently avoided it. Is what I posted here the exact same word for word that appears in your "super secret put everything here to cover Mario's @ss forum"?

"conveniently avoided it". cute. Like i said earlier, I have a life and do not spend every waking moment on this forum, sorry, but i can PROVE that that is the TRUTH. I said in my post, which you quoted, that "... still there, and still in their virgin form. No posts have been altered. Nothing has been changed. It's all there...." so in other words YOUR POST IS THERE im not sure how to make that any clearer to you, but i'll try:
Ritchie, your post is still in there.
Your post is still in there Ritchie.
Hey Ritchie, i seen your post a few seconds ago, its still in the forum.
Uhm... hey Ritchie, your post? oh yeah, its still in there.
Y O U R P O S T = I N A F O R U M
word for word. post unchanged. your post saved. why do u worry about this? I do not mean to be rude, but it is obvious to me that you have a hard time getting the point.

And to think that Rackell just follows him blindly.....or is too scared of getting banned. PICK ONE.

Ritchie Ritchie Ritchie. I am not blind. I am not afraid of getting banned. It is 1/2 my forum, so what exactly should i be afraid of? HONESTLY. So i have some options for you: Either learn to spell my name right (hell, mario's dyslexic and he even gets it right) OR stop "blindly" attacking me.
PICK ONE.

I give up. I will definately not come back to this thread. A final good bye.

Lets play YOUR game. You've said this several times now. You have kept replying, so now YOU are lying. OMG i think you have just stooped to Mario's level because thats about the only lie i have seen him tell, that "goodbye, im done" or however he worded it!

And another thing:

Come one come all to Mario's forum where he runs things like an idiot. Gee I was just being sarcastic. I do not mean to start a forum war. I was not saying you ar an idiot. I was just assuming.

I consider this a personal attack on ME. It isnt just HIS forum. HE isnt the ONLY one that runs it. This has in no way turned into a forum war. OH, and your sarcasm is about the least funniest thing i've seen in a long time. One last thing about this quote: maybe if you'd stop assuming so much you could see that it is all laid out (except for the virus deal, which trust me he gets more than one, as do i, from ignorant herp-people) on the table. So Ritchie, please stop assuming ( i believe you may know the end of this very OLD saying)

It will certainly be a shame, not seeing anymore of your replies to this thread.

PS- for future reference, my name is spelt R A K E L L, not too difficult, just sound it out

PEACE all

PPS- i have to laugh... i noticed that Cindy was cited like 4 points for being bluntly truthful, just voicing her opinion, YET my friend Ritchie was only give 1 point for referring to rubbers on a forum where little children might be viewing :shock:!

 

[Ken Harbart]

Mario, you "assume" too much. Saying that your words were twisted or taken out of context is a weak arguing of semantics. Any attorney would have a field day with you on that one.

Klez (and al of its variants) is a combination virus/mass-mailing worm, and is rarely, if ever, sent knowingly. The subject line of the email is chosen at random from a list of 120+ possible subjects, and the body is generally left blank. The Klez.h variant, however, often masquerades itself as a removal tool. All variants pick the sender at random from the infected computer's hard drive- not just its address book. The ability of Klez to spoof its source makes it nearly impossible to track down the infected user.

Last spring, it was estimated that one out of every 170 emails sent were infected with Klez. While the virus/worm has slowed down, it shows no signs of stopping anytime soon.

Klez info from Symantec Security Response

PPS- i have to laugh... i noticed that Cindy was cited like 4 points for being bluntly truthful, just voicing her opinion, YET my friend Ritchie was only give 1 point for referring to rubbers on a forum where little children might be viewing :shock:!

Now then, do I really need to delve into the difference between statements with a truth value (matters of fact) vs matters of pure opinion? Cindy's bit of pseudoreasoning earned her four points because that's the value associated with her offense. If you want to get techneical, she should have five points, since her second post did not contain her full name.

Ritchie's reply regarding condoms earned him one point because it was off-topic. That children (gasp) might see it is utterly meaningless. "It's for the children" is weak justification for just about every action, and doesn't fly with me.