Inquiry The Texas Herp Community

[Pink Lady Exotics]

I PM'd him as well.

 

[lanceheads]

I haven't seen him in many years. I am the Promoter for the San Antonio Show, and he has never vended at the show in the 12 years I have been involved with it. I also vend at the E.T.H.S. in Houston, the NARBC in Arlington, and Lone Star Expo in Arlington every year, and haven't seen him at either of those shows. I heard he was a fireman or something in Dallas?

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

He was an EMT/Fireman for the Cedar Hill dept. I have been doing some research on where he is now and what he is doing, but will refrain from posting that in this thread as it is not about him specifically.

 

[Lynn]

I have not seen him at any show in years. The last time I recall seeing him was at one of the Bob Clark shows in Arlington at the convention center, which was prior to NARBC coming here in 07.

That is the last time I have seen him also.. At that time he was married to Brandi. I know who he got his rodents from weekly and they have not seen him either. He has never vended at the Lone Star Reptile Expo..
I agree with Kelli, Tim and Randal.

 

[Lynn]

Forgot two, added to the end.

Jennifer Harrison -- Madison, WI -- Virus
Dr. Jason Brodnik, DVM -- Northglenn, CO -- Virus
Michael Ogburn -- Heathsville, VA -- Virus
Joe Ellis -- Virginia Beach, VA -- Stolen Animals (through breeding loan)
Tim Bowles -- Unknown -- Virus
Matt Lehrer -- Florida -- Virus (purchased from Tim before it was known about him contracting the virus from Wyatt's animal)

The only name on this list that is from Texas is Wyatt. I still want to know about the breeders from Texas that are selling sick animals.. Again please list them as this is what this thread is about. Thanks

 

[Lynn]

I haven't seen him in many years. I am the Promoter for the San Antonio Show, and he has never vended at the show in the 12 years I have been involved with it. I also vend at the E.T.H.S. in Houston, the NARBC in Arlington, and Lone Star Expo in Arlington every year, and haven't seen him at either of those shows. I heard he was a fireman or something in Dallas?

Paramedic in Cedar Hill but lost that job a few years back

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

The only name on this list that is from Texas is Wyatt. I still want to know about the breeders from Texas that are selling sick animals.. Again please list them as this is what this thread is about. Thanks

I never said the breeders in question were from Texas. I said they are being allowed to vend at Texas shows. The thread is about the Texas herp community permitted this to take place. The list above contains the victims of Damion Wyatt, not people that have vended at Texas shows.

As previously stated, this new information that was stated publicly about Damion Wyatt was why I made the comment that I did. There is another breeder that vends at shows in Texas that I feel strongly about, but as Kelli mentioned, I don't have the specified vet reports from Germany to post solid proof thus some would consider it "hearsay". What I do have are e-mails from very well known people in the reptile industry both here in the U.S. and in Europe that made me aware of the topic, and considering that they are some of the most experienced long-standing breeders in this hobby, I don't consider that just gossip or hearsay. Also as previously stated, it would take me about 4 hours to sort through my e-mail folder that contains all communications from during the virus ordeal, as it contains about 25+ pages of e-mails over the span of a year. At 20 e-mails displayed per page, that is a lot to sort through to find the dozen or so messages/conversations pertaining to this issue. Considering that I surf the internet primarily on my Blackberry and only access my laptop when I am at my boyfriend's house to use his internet, I would have to go out of my way to make a point to sit down and do this. I have other more pressing matters to deal with these days.

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

The only name on this list that is from Texas is Wyatt. I still want to know about the breeders from Texas that are selling sick animals.. Again please list them as this is what this thread is about. Thanks

I'm actually a little confused as to why this thread is here in the first place. No inquiry is being made on a person/business nor has a transaction taken place. The only thing I see is demands for Jen to post a list of names of who she suspects (or has been told) is selling sick snakes. Shouldn't that be up to her to bring it to the BOI if that was her decision?

Wouldn't any information be third party anyway unless she personally interacted with them?

 

[lanceheads]

I never said the breeders in question were from Texas. I said they are being allowed to vend at Texas shows. The thread is about the Texas herp community permitted this to take place. The list above contains the victims of Damion Wyatt, not people that have vended at Texas shows.As previously stated, this new information that was stated publicly about Damion Wyatt was why I made the comment that I did. There is another breeder that vends at shows in Texas that I feel strongly about, but as Kelli mentioned, I don't have the specified vet reports from Germany to post solid proof thus some would consider it "hearsay". What I do have are e-mails from very well known people in the reptile industry both here in the U.S. and in Europe that made me aware of the topic, and considering that they are some of the most experienced long-standing breeders in this hobby, I don't consider that just gossip or hearsay. Also as previously stated, it would take me about 4 hours to sort through my e-mail folder that contains all communications from during the virus ordeal, as it contains about 25+ pages of e-mails over the span of a year. At 20 e-mails displayed per page, that is a lot to sort through to find the dozen or so messages/conversations pertaining to this issue. Considering that I surf the internet primarily on my Blackberry and only access my laptop when I am at my boyfriend's house to use his internet, I would have to go out of my way to make a point to sit down and do this. I have other more pressing matters to deal with these days.

Permitted? Who?
And of course you have an axe to grind, because your name is on the list!

You better find the time to scroll through those emails Jen, or you lose all creditbility here missy!

Randal Berry

 

[Magic Merlin]

I never said the breeders in question were from Texas. I said they are being allowed to vend at Texas shows. The thread is about the Texas herp community permitted this to take place. The list above contains the victims of Damion Wyatt, not people that have vended at Texas shows.

As previously stated, this new information that was stated publicly about Damion Wyatt was why I made the comment that I did. There is another breeder that vends at shows in Texas that I feel strongly about, but as Kelli mentioned, I don't have the specified vet reports from Germany to post solid proof thus some would consider it "hearsay". What I do have are e-mails from very well known people in the reptile industry both here in the U.S. and in Europe that made me aware of the topic, and considering that they are some of the most experienced long-standing breeders in this hobby, I don't consider that just gossip or hearsay. Also as previously stated, it would take me about 4 hours to sort through my e-mail folder that contains all communications from during the virus ordeal, as it contains about 25+ pages of e-mails over the span of a year. At 20 e-mails displayed per page, that is a lot to sort through to find the dozen or so messages/conversations pertaining to this issue. Considering that I surf the internet primarily on my Blackberry and only access my laptop when I am at my boyfriend's house to use his internet, I would have to go out of my way to make a point to sit down and do this. I have other more pressing matters to deal with these days.

And yet you can find the time to accuse an entire community of conspiracy and negligence with ZERO proof.....if you are too lazy to provide evidence then your rants have no place here. Thankfully the well respected Texas promoters and vendors, like myself, have completely impeached your credibility.......way to make a reappearance into the hobby.

 

[hhmoore]

Any more discussion specifically related to transactions with Damion Wyatt should be in his thread, as this one is about the Texas herp community, but I would hold off as I will be starting a new one once I finish getting information from Roy, and you should bring it to that one.

Jen, why would you start a new thread? You already have a thread about Wyatt...and if you are posting updates about the same problem - even if it involves other victims - doesn't it make sense to post them in the same place? Is there any reason that the parties you are gathering information from can't post for themselves?? That IS generally preferred, after all.

 

[RJK890]

Stephanie:
I'm actually a little confused as to why this thread is here in the first place. No inquiry is being made on a person/business nor has a transaction taken place. The only thing I see is demands for Jen to post a list of names of who she suspects (or has been told) is selling sick snakes. Shouldn't that be up to her to bring it to the BOI if that was her decision?

Wouldn't any information be third party anyway unless she personally interacted with them?

Stephanie is right.
This thread is not about a transaction, or the Texas Reptile community.

It is about Jen Harrison making accusations that Mr. Wyatt is being allowed to vend shows in Texas, and that the Texas show promoters and Texas show vendors are allowing it, and sweeping it under the rug.

If y'all Texans want to call her out for spreading gossip about the herpers in Texas, or ask her to post proof to back up her accusations it should be done in Jen Harrisons thread.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99539&highlight=Harrison

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

Jen, why would you start a new thread? You already have a thread about Wyatt...and if you are posting updates about the same problem - even if it involves other victims - doesn't it make sense to post them in the same place? Is there any reason that the parties you are gathering information from can't post for themselves?? That IS generally preferred, after all.

I encouraged him to start it. I would prefer to have it be in a new one because most people won't want to read through the entire old one to get to the new information. And if he is still selling, time is critical.

 

[Pink Lady Exotics]

I'm actually a little confused as to why this thread is here in the first place. No inquiry is being made on a person/business nor has a transaction taken place. The only thing I see is demands for Jen to post a list of names of who she suspects (or has been told) is selling sick snakes. Shouldn't that be up to her to bring it to the BOI if that was her decision?

Exactly. I stated my opinion about something in another thread, and Kelli decided to bring it to the BOI for whatever reason where it really doesn't belong. I don't have to defend myself on anything. I said what I believe in based on things I was informed of by others and based on statements that are plain to see here on Fauna.

 

[hhmoore]

I have to agree....
This isn't even an inquiry about the Texas Reptile Community; but, if it were, I think that (barring reference to a business/organization with that name) the scope is too broad to be acceptable.

I can understand Texas herpers wanting Jen to back up her claims, but this isn't the way to do it. I'd be inclined to redirect the questions back to the threads they started in, the thread about Wyatt, or threads about the people Jen is referring to (assuming she ever deigns to identify them, or even a thread about Jen...since she is the one posting these claims (okay, that one might be a bit of a reach, lol)