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Bad Guy THE VEILED CHAMELEON

w000000w....

posting the whole credit card number and all info.....

Not the brightest crayon in the box....

Mainly commenting to be subscribe so I can see when the email pops up, but from the sound of it someone needs to troll and post links to these threads on all his classifieds. That wouldnt be considered "stalking" would it?
 
w000000w....

posting the whole credit card number and all info.....

Not the brightest crayon in the box....

Mainly commenting to be subscribe so I can see when the email pops up, but from the sound of it someone needs to troll and post links to these threads on all his classifieds. That wouldnt be considered "stalking" would it?

No need to insult him. We could claim you're "not the brightest crayon in the box" for no knowing how to subscribe without posting (its in thread tools at the top of every page of a thread, click it and then click subscribe)
 
I WILL NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, SHIP OR ACCEPT ANY PACKAGES THROUGH UPS. THEIR QUALITY OF SERVICE IS LAUGHABLE, AND THEY HAVE NO CARE FOR YOUR PACKAGE.

JOIN IN THE BOYCOTT AGAINST UPS TODAY!!!!
 
Back to the thread, after seeing all these posts and other threads I definitely won't take the chance with $4000, especially with his terms and conditions and shipping through ups and just too many numerous of problems with this guy. No way would I buy from someone who refuses to give money back if their product is subpar. I think its ridiculous to make someone keep paying shipping over and over until they get something worth the $ they have already spent. That definitely wouldn't work for me since other than those parson's he has absolutely nothing I want.
 
No need to insult him. We could claim you're "not the brightest crayon in the box" for no knowing how to subscribe without posting (its in thread tools at the top of every page of a thread, click it and then click subscribe)

Wasnt meant to insult just saying, WHO POSTS THEIR CREDIT INFO ON A PUBLIC FORUM KNOWN TO BE TROLLED BY SCAMMERS?

Im scared to do online banking let alone post any digits of my card.
 
Wasnt meant to insult just saying, WHO POSTS THEIR CREDIT INFO ON A PUBLIC FORUM KNOWN TO BE TROLLED BY SCAMMERS?

Im scared to do online banking let alone post any digits of my card.

I think a lot of pressure is put on OP in the BOI. It's very easy to get screwed over and then have a whole forum turn on you for trying to inform them of a potential scammer. He probably just wanted to hurry up and get it up to make people happy and then realized he couldn't edit... it's happened to me :(
 
I think a lot of pressure is put on OP in the BOI. It's very easy to get screwed over and then have a whole forum turn on you for trying to inform them of a potential scammer. He probably just wanted to hurry up and get it up to make people happy and then realized he couldn't edit... it's happened to me :(

Tru, and I know about the pressure, Im avoiding a post of my own. My bad to the op for coming off insulting, it was more intended a sarcasm. I just assume everyone is as diligent as I try to be.:eek:
 
stupid mistake

OK well i noticed a little to late that i did not delete my card info but its a walmart visa card that i only use for online buying and theres no money on it nor will ther be in the future! I dont trust the veiled chameleon with the card number they stole from me once so i wont be putting anymore cash on that card in the future! AND on a side note the pictures of that poor water that was shipped were taken rite after it passed and that is how it looked when it arrived!!! I am still trying to contact steve , kevin whoever about my problem but still no response i have even told them to let me order 130.00 worth of products from them ( no animals!) but still nothing?
 
Will, seems the only way to get something out of them is with legal help. I believe the only people who got their money worth of animals, was because she contacted Judge Judy. But I haven't read all 4 or so posts on them in a while.
 
Have you saved all your emails from them? Do any say that they recieved payment? Get in touch with a small claims court. If you have the proof someone will take the case.
 
Good luck I hope you get the full amount refunded inc. shipping charges. We need these types out of the hobby. They dont care for the animals in their care and ship out sick, unhealthy specimens so they can turn a quick buck.
 
Do to the fact that you paid for it. It belonged to you. But since it showed up on its last leg and died do to them. You are more than likely entitled to two to three times what you paid. check into it.
 
Man, I cant believe people keep buying from these losers at The Veiled Chameleon.He ripped off Cindy over at Bearded and Veileds.He ripped off my brother and I for a bunch of our Veileds.He burned me on an adult leucistic het Cobra and the list goes on and on.This has been going on for at least 2 years now and I'm real surprised a lynch mob hasn't shown up at their place.
 
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