Their @ it again.. buyer beware.

[serpentboy78]

Greetings,My name is PAUL, I saw your ad for { Nice albino 04 speckled kings } and its fits
what i have been searching for.let me have the final asking PRICE you
are willing to sell .i reside in POLLAND,I will handle shipment withouts
to My base in POLLAND.Do you accept cashier checks as a method of
payment.Sorry if i may ask,is this your personal property cos' i dont
want to involve myself with stolen properties for sale.what is the
condition like? Well reply with your full name,contact address,phone
number and fax,prove of ownership,so that i can commence payment
immediately if it is still available....

Name in Full ...

Adderess...

City....

Country......

State..

Zipcode...

Phone# both cell and Home.

Get back to me with information as soon as possible.
PAUL
this is 1 of 2 emails I got from these morons... I wish they would actually send the check.... Buyers beware... Someone's had to of fallen for this or they would not keep running this scam.... Im curious to see how many other ppl get this email... Mike Clark..aka Serpentboy78....


"Karma's got a way of coming back and returning"

 

[geckokreeper]

Same thing

I got almost the same email a few weeks ago.He wanted me to go to a check cashing and cash it the same day it came.He kept telling me keep an extra $200 for all of your running around and troubles.He wanted me to western union the extra money to him.The total for the items i was selling were $1800 and he sent $7000 in a cashiers check.I decided to go to the check cashing and see if possibly it was real.Next thing i know in walk the police.After questioning me for about 3 hours and me telling them what was going on and showing them all of the email he had sent they let me go.The guy kept emailing me saying his wife has breast cancer and he needed the rest of the money quick.He said just keep the $1800 for free and sent the rest as my wife needs the money.Then a few days later he started saying you better send me my money or else.He asked me for my phone number.I never told him the cops took the check,but i gave him the number to the police station and said it was my phone number.I havent heard from him sence then.He also couldnt spell very well.They want you to deposit it in to your bank account and sent them the remaining balance.The thing is that it registers in your account until about a week later when it turns out to be a fraud and your out the money and somtimes even the product.I also gathered all the names i have read that this guy or guys have been using that i got from other threads on this site and emailed him with all the names and email adressess and even some actual address.I told him were watching you.Anyways see what he says if you ask him to western union the money to you.I still have all the emails from him.So if anyone want to see just ask.

 

[gmherps]

He even spelled his own countries name wrong: Poland, not POLLAND.

 

[Rob @ RK Reptiles]

I received the same this morning.

Greetings,My name is PAUL, I saw your ad for { 04 Ball Pythons } and its fits
what i have been searching for.let me have the final asking PRICE you
are willing to sell .i reside in UK,I will handle shipment withouts
to My base in UK.Do you accept cashier checks as a method of
payment.Sorry if i may ask,is this your personal property cos' i dont
want to involve myself with stolen properties for sale.what is the
condition like? Well reply with your full name,contact address,phone
number and fax,prove of ownership,so that i can commence payment
immediately if it is still available....

Name in Full ...

Adderess...

City....

Country......

State..

Zipcode...

Phone# both cell and Home.

Get back to me with information as soon as possible.
PAUL

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[HerpVenue]

wow gee form mail
the kind where you insert the item that you find.
the kind where you send the same mail to everyone.
How do I know it is form mail? It is all in caps except for the part that
you copied and pasted (Granite Looking Ball Python).
Tell you what.
Go ahead and send me your so called "casheirs check".
I will wait a month for it to PROPERLY and LEGALLY clear my bank.
When it does..... Your AGENT can come over to my house and collect the
money and pythons or whatever you want.
If it does not clear........ Your AGENT can come over to my house and use
his head as my target practice.
Then I can come over to your house and use you and your family as target
practice.
Does that sound good?

Also if you feel I have threatened you. You have legal recourse. Because I
am threatening you.
So please call your local police and complain about me. Make sure to give
them your name, address, phone number and e-mail. Then give them my e-mail
too. That way we can make sure someone gets arrested.

p.s. When YOU get arrested. Make sure to say hi to your new boyfriend bubba
for me.
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Ritchie Luna
www.RitchieReptiles.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "terry krown" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 7:33 PM
Subject: Granite Looking Ball Python


> HELLO
> MY NAME IS TERRY KROWN AM FROM CANADA AM HIGHLY INTERESTED IN BUYING
YOUR{Granite Looking Ball Python} BUT BEFORE I GO FURTHER, I WILL LIKE TO
ASK, IF YOU ACCEPT CASHIER CHEQUE AS A MODE OF PAYMENT CAUSE ONE OF MY
CLIENT IN USA IS OWNING ME SOME AMOUNT OF MONEYAND SHE AS PROMISE ME TO PAY
ME BACK WITH CASHIER CHEQUE, FOR YOU TO KNOW. MY SHIPPING AGENT WILL BE
COMING FOR THE PICK UP AT YOUR LOCATION AND MAKE SURE YOU FORWARD ME THE
EARLY CONDITION THAT THE{Granite Looking Ball Python} IS AND TELL ME THE
FINAL ASKING PRICE.HOPE THIS IS UNDERSTAND BY YOU. I WILL LIKE YOU TO GIVE
YOUR CONTACT INFO ALSO.
> NAMEINFULL.....
> ADDRESS......
> CITY......
> STATE.....
> COUNTRY......
> ZIPCODE......
> PHONE#
>
> MR TERRY KROWN
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
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unfortunately it bounced because my ISP has been blocked because it did not like my mail server for some reason

 

[HerpVenue]

ps
its all good I just contacted his e-mail provider.
hopefully they shut him down

 

[Randy T.]

Regarding this issue, wouldn't it be fairly easy to catch this guy? He repeatedly has asked to have the funds sent to him through Western Union, all it should take is to inform the police in the town where he is to pick up the funds then "confirm shipping" through Western Union to this shmuck, and have the police waiting for him to show up to pick up the money. If it is more difficult then this please explain to me why, as I do not see the main problem.

Later

 

[JasonBrennan]

I get several of these emails every week. My goal is to collect as many of the fake checks as I can, and put them up on a wall in my office.....I am shooting for $100,000 in checks. It may not stop them, but at least I can cost these scammers a little bit of money (they always send the checks thru UPS).

By the way, you can't trace them thru UPS, since they send the checks from a "UPS store" or similar type of business in Largos (not sure if they are called The UPS Store over there).

If you call UPS with the info on the package and the account number shipped under, it simply comes back to that store (where the person shipping it paid cash and used a fake name)

 

[SERPENTS DEN]

[email protected]

I get the same BS just about every week. Here is the latest one.



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Message about: Cherry-Picked Ball Pythons

GREETINGS SELLER,
HOW ARE YOU DOING OVER THERE, AM DENNIS PETS FROM PERU, AM IN THE MODE OF PURCASHING YOUR ITEM PRICE $300 WHICH I SAW ON YOUR NET ADVERT, WHICH I WILL LIKE YOU TO MAIL ME ASAP BACK IF YOU ARE STILL INTRESTED IN SELLING IT THANKS DENNIS PETS..........

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[serpentboy78]

CASHED THE CHECK.....

WOW.... I Was just emailed buy a guy who got one of these checks... it was for $4000.. and he actually cashed it!!!!! and has the $$$ so he says... He is asking me what I think he should do????? I told him what I thought he should do.... I also told him he should post to this thread... He seems very weary to do so... So we'll see if he does... This is how the scam works... It pays off I guess out the 100's of emails they send out if they can find just one what I call a sucker.... to actually cash the check..This guy has now cashed a check for 4 grand... He thinks he should maybe send the guy the $$$ and just call it a loss... If he does that ..Man what a fuc*ing moron... Call the cops buddy tell them what has transpired.. Tell them to look at this site all the info...etc.. Save urself while you can....

Hope everyone has a safe and happy 4th... Mike Clark..aka Serpentboy78...










"Karma's got a way of coming back and returning"

 

[sschind]

Go ahead and cash the check, leave it in the bank to draw interest for the week or two it takes for them to find out its a fake, and then let them take the money back. OTOH if your bank charges you for bad checks you deposit it wouldn't be worth it.

I like Jason's idea though. That would be a unique collection.

Steve Schindler

 

[HerpVenue]

I get several of these emails every week. My goal is to collect as many of the fake checks as I can, and put them up on a wall in my office.....I am shooting for $100,000 in checks. It may not stop them, but at least I can cost these scammers a little bit of money (they always send the checks thru UPS).

hhhmmm best idea ever.

I am jumping on your band wagon.

 

[Storm55]

Check out this site

There is a horse breeder currently playing this game. She's devoted a section of her website to warning people about these scams while she strings these guys along (humorously) for as long as she can. It's complete with scans of all the fake cashier's checks she has received. This is where I first learned about this type of scam. Not only does she take these scammers for a ride, she makes it pretty darn entertaining for the rest of us!

http://www.bustedupcowgirl.com/scampage.html

-Jackie Fisher

 

[HerpVenue]

Hello

Thank you for contacting the outblaze postmaster desk.

First - the account [email protected] is terminated - we dont like nigerian
scam artists infesting our network, so thanks for the heads up.

Mission accomplished

 

[DThomas]

Go ahead and cash the check, leave it in the bank to draw interest for the week or two it takes for them to find out its a fake, and then let them take the money back. OTOH if your bank charges you for bad checks you deposit it wouldn't be worth it.

I like Jason's idea though. That would be a unique collection.

Steve Schindler

Anyone who does this, knowing it is a fake check from one of the Nigerian scammers, has just committed forgery by presenting a forged document. Very bad advice and I do not advise anyone to do this. You can be prosecuted for it.

 

[Christy Talbert]

Yep, he emailed me too!!!

Paul lives in England according to my letter....Isnt' there someone we can report this to??????

Hello Christy Talbert, i have seen the price and its ok by me then i
have instructed my client in{usa} to issue the cashiers cheque to
you.meanwhlie i also instructed him to include $2500 on the payment
so you should expect a cashiers cheque of $4200 the excess is for my
shipper that will be coming for pick up.the funds will be used for
the shipping of the {Pastel Female} along side 3 other cars i placed order for in care of my shipper.i'll imploy you to wire the balance via western union money transfer to my shipper as soon as you RECEIVE the cheque.My SHIPPER will come for pick up on a specicified date that will be convenient for you.i hope i can count on you for my balance I
ALSO WANT THIS TO BASE ON TRUST CAN I TRUST YOU?...
P.S i will like you to give me ur contact info..also as soon as u get
the cheque,cashing store will given to you for by me for the fast
cashing of the cheque.Hope this is understandable by you.

 

[JasonBrennan]

I did cash one of these checks about 2 years ago with a motorcycle I had for sale. I was totally up front with the bank that I suspected that it was a fake check (I didn't know about all the scams at that time, but still was uneasy about the whole deal).

I told my bank that I thought it was a fake, and they said "well, we can put it thru and see what happens." The bank then deposited the amount into a new savings account we set up ($12,000) and said it would take 3 days to clear. After the 3 days they said all was good, and opened the account to be used.

It took 11 more business days for the "issuing bank" to notify my bank that it was a fake. Of course, the money was never used and the bank manager was fully aware of my concerns. So, in this case, there was no harm done. They simply closed the unused savings account and that was that.

IF you do cash one of these checks, the bank WILL come after you for the return of the money. IF you have already spent it or sent the money to someone else, you are about to have a big problem. They will prosecute you (according to the manager of my bank, a national chain).

If you know it is a scam, don't try to get away with anything....it would be a really stupid reason to go to prison

 

[lambertjohn1]

I have recieved the same exact email for three different ads I currently have on KS. The only thing different is the animals in question. I am just thankful they only email and don't call me like Jeremy Clark did. Regards John Lambert

 

[HerpVenue]

Go ahead and cash the check, leave it in the bank to draw interest for the week or two it takes for them to find out its a fake, and then let them take the money back. OTOH if your bank charges you for bad checks you deposit it wouldn't be worth it.

1. Deposit in bank
2. Collect $3 in interest
3. rejoice I made money
4. It does not go through properly
5. I get charged $30 for bad check
6. I have to go through the trouble of answering question on a bad check

Lose money and lose time. No thanks

 

[sschind]

I didn't know it was a bad check. Heck I am a very trusting person. I thought it was a legitimate deal. I just got very busy after cashing it and have not had time to fulfill my end of the bargain. Boy am I glad I didn't have time to go through with this. I am sure embarrassed. How could I fall for such a thing. I sure hope you catch these crooks. I am going to be much more careful from now on.

Still, with most (if not all banks) all to quick to hit you with a $25.00 penalty for a bad check I doubt if it would be worth it for the couple of weeks worth of interest.

Isn't simply writing one of these checks an illeagal act. Couldn't encouraging these people to do such a thing by pretending to go along with their scam even when you know it is a scam be construed as aiding and abbetting (or some other legal jargon)

I am sorry if anyone took my original post as a serious suggestion. Hopefully, If you found my post, you had already read all of the other posts detailing this topic and realized that what I was saying was meant in jest. I would never encourage such an act and I am simply not ignorant enough to try and attempt it. Heck I didn't even use the credit card that bank one accidently issued to my dog "Buck"

Steve Schindler