thereptileroom = cheat of the month

[DThomas]

Wow...........I am going to say this here..........My thoughts on a few things are changing and it is for the good. THANKS GUYS!!!

All differences aside, what's right is right Gary. No one has ever accussed you of dishonesty before that I can remember and I am in agreement with everyone else, it's not happening here.

 

[Gary O]

Thanks man.

Also I do not mind at all this thread stays and stays the way it was posted. People will open it and read it, and see the truth.

 

[bcfos]

Jim,
After reading your post I agreed with you. However, the hard part was deciding what kind of warning points the guy qualified for. Quite frankly, IMO 1 warning point for posting a BOI topic in another forum didn't seem sufficient. (I agree with you that this certainly wasn't an "accident"...especially since he posted a similar topic in the past (even though no one seemed to notice). In the end I decided on "Name calling and general derogatory statements" not because it was necessarily the most fitting penalty, but because it is applicable and the number of warning points seem more appropriate given the nature of the infraction (IMO at least).

I will leave it up to Rich as to whether or not he wants to move/remove this topic, or modify my approach to the problem.

Well you know being that I see worse every day I really didn't see it as name calling. But then again I haven't been around here much so I am really jaded on the whole name calling issue.

Though I do understand that if you do call someone a name you are fined and suspended. Not a bad concept really as it will encourage more to post. Though I bet a lot of people have bitten through their tounge's due to this (myself being included in that group). Kind of neat trying to tread lightly and keep things on the up and up though, makes me think and knock some cobwebs off the old grey matter.

 

[FCesaro]

Garbage deleted. I don't think anyone really needed to read that stuff here.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

and what R U

I would suspect troll, but won't out and out say it...........

 

[Chameleon Company]

Another one bites the dust. Could this thread rate as "killing two birds with one stone?" Going for three ..... "here kitty kitty" ......

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Another one bites the dust. Could this thread rate as "killing two birds with one stone?" Going for three ..... "here kitty kitty" ......

Kitty, Kitty, Bang, Bang............

 

[BufoToxin]

wonderful examples of their sources.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Frank

Even quoted, that sort of language was an eyesore. So excuse me if I remove it. - WebSlave

Nice launguage, but this isn't the "war room"!!!!!

 

[psilocybe]

Please do not judge TRR on the postings of Fcesaro. His post was not encouraged nor condoned by ANY of the members or staff on TRR. While we cannot control what members of our site do on other sites, we do not encourage this kind of behavior from them AT ALL.

 

[BufoToxin]

I disagree. The Reptile Room is filled with posts just like that one. One only has to log into the war room (which makes for 99% of their hits) to see posts like this one over and over again on a daily basis.

 

[soberguy]

While TRR was initially known for the War Room, it has become much, much more than that. Just like Fauna. It used to be only about the BOI. But now there is much more.

 

[psilocybe]

I disagree. The Reptile Room is filled with posts just like that one. One only has to log into the war room (which makes for 99% of their hits) to see posts like this one over and over again on a daily basis.

The War Room is an elective feature of TRR. You must REQUEST to view it, and you must be over 18. The only people who can view or post in the War Room are those that ASKED to be allowed to.

We have MANY other forums that are very active, and family friendly. Again, Fcesaros post was not encouraged, nor condoned by any of the staff on TRR. However, we cannot control what they say or do on other sites.

 

[BufoToxin]

I was reading it a few days ago. Perhaps a week at most. It was not even in my own home but my nieghbor's, because he finds the banter humorous. He was pointing out some graphic porn picture, and I decided to click around. When I came to the part on one particular thread where the name calling and mindless insults began I clicked another thread and the same thing was happening there.
Yes, I myself did sign up a while ago to view the war room because things seemed funny at the time. But that gets old when you take this hobby seriously. And you never look at the people involved the same again. It seems anyone with any type of respectability either never posts there or runs as soon as they see what it's about.
I know the site is trying to get past the whole war room stigma but when staff there is using communication like obscene pictures, back stabbing, cursing, and such horrible grammar this will never happen. IThat site seems to attract and hold people that no other site wants or hears from elsewhere.

 

[evil]

I was reading it a few days ago. Perhaps a week at most. It was not even in my own home but my nieghbor's, because he finds the banter humorous. He was pointing out some graphic porn picture, and I decided to click around. When I came to the part on one particular thread where the name calling and mindless insults began I clicked another thread and the same thing was happening there.
Yes, I myself did sign up a while ago to view the war room because things seemed funny at the time. But that gets old when you take this hobby seriously. And you never look at the people involved the same again. It seems anyone with any type of respectability either never posts there or runs as soon as they see what it's about.
I know the site is trying to get past the whole war room stigma but when staff there is using communication like obscene pictures, back stabbing, cursing, and such horrible grammar this will never happen. IThat site seems to attract and hold people that no other site wants or hears from elsewhere.

perfectly said. i couldn't agree more.

 

[Gary O]

HMMMMMM

Lets see

1) You must ask to even view the war room. 211 members of my 780+ are war room members. This is something that many many other sites are trying no themselves. Sorry Rich but take Hell here. Same thing. What does it do for me. KEEPS THE BS OFF THE REST OF THE SITE? Do you know that the rest of the forum rarely has issues as the war members know they have the war room.

There are TONS of herp related sites now with a war room type forum...........

The differense is unless a friend tells you about it you will not even know it is there on TRR. It is hidden from site. What I think is people look for a way to slam TRR and that is really the only way.

I have a site that allows more freedom then many others ot there. does this make all other forums bad? NO not at all. just means TRR allows you a bit more freedom. Most have forgotten about freedom.

But I do not get someone that complains about the war room and they ASKED to get in. That would be just like somone paying Rich for hell then telling him he is crap for it. don't you think?

But everything in the war room is TOTALLY hidden unless YOU ask.

 

[Laura Fopiano]

Agreed...

HMMMMMM

Lets see

1) You must ask to even view the war room. 211 members of my 780+ are war room members. This is something that many many other sites are trying no themselves. Sorry Rich but take Hell here. Same thing. What does it do for me. KEEPS THE BS OFF THE REST OF THE SITE? Do you know that the rest of the forum rarely has issues as the war members know they have the war room.

There are TONS of herp related sites now with a war room type forum...........

The differense is unless a friend tells you about it you will not even know it is there on TRR. It is hidden from site. What I think is people look for a way to slam TRR and that is really the only way.

I have a site that allows more freedom then many others ot there. does this make all other forums bad? NO not at all. just means TRR allows you a bit more freedom. Most have forgotten about freedom.

But I do not get someone that complains about the war room and they ASKED to get in. That would be just like somone paying Rich for hell then


telling him he is crap for it. don't you think?

But everything in the war room is TOTALLY hidden unless YOU ask.

No worries here darlin......I love your sight and am also a member.........

Those who pick on other's and are willing to put down other's for being differerent are not worthy of TRR or this sight for that matter..........

 

[BufoToxin]

Your absolutely correct.
As I said in my previous post, I did ask to gain war room entrance. I also said that it got old because I feel the site has little more to offer then that section. Understand I am just posting my opinion here. I am sure not everyone likes every site they visit. I just saw a thread here at Fauna that ironically gave me an arena to post my thoughts. Perhaps because I am not slinging insults and bizarre porno at you you are becoming confused Gary.

 

[bcfos]

I was reading it a few days ago. Perhaps a week at most. It was not even in my own home but my nieghbor's, because he finds the banter humorous. He was pointing out some graphic porn picture, and I decided to click around. When I came to the part on one particular thread where the name calling and mindless insults began I clicked another thread and the same thing was happening there.
Yes, I myself did sign up a while ago to view the war room because things seemed funny at the time. But that gets old when you take this hobby seriously. And you never look at the people involved the same again. It seems anyone with any type of respectability either never posts there or runs as soon as they see what it's about.
I know the site is trying to get past the whole war room stigma but when staff there is using communication like obscene pictures, back stabbing, cursing, and such horrible grammar this will never happen. IThat site seems to attract and hold people that no other site wants or hears from elsewhere.

Some what true but also false. The War Room came about as a forum where people could vent, post what they wanted, and cause general unmoderated general disruption without fear of retribution for violating any number of rules which are considered against TOS of pretty much every site around. It has it's up side and down side but honestly it is just the internet and if you take something which is said by someone on the internet personal you really need to have a long period of personal reflection.

Also if you want to see it you have to ask for it. So in asking are you going to group yourself with every single war room member? No and if you do, once again long time for personal reflection.

And out of 772 members only 213 have requested to even be part of the war room. That leaves 559 members who have chosen not to be part of that group. As for forum views it does rank highest, but also I contribute that to the "rubber neck" factor. Everyone by nature wants to see the carnage and will look multiple times before driving on.

As for Frank. Anyone who knows him from the old days of Bob Clark Forums knows all too well Frank speaks his mind and what he feels without holding back. Some of the old timers from Bob Clark Forums can remember the "Get Abused By Frank" forum which was a riot to read. People actually posted there asking to get abused by Frank. TRR does not try to control members as to where they post or what they may post in other fourms. There was no prodding behind the scenes to get him to come here and act in a disruptive manner, as he did it on his own accord. I didn't even know about it till about an hour ago and what ever he posted is deleted. Is what he did right? No, but grouping an entire forum for one members actions is not exactly right either. One has to remember the 559 members who have absolutely nothing to do with the war room at all. Plus as stated in another post here the war room is just what we were known for in the beginning much like Fauna was known for the BOI. People came to Fauna for the BOI and found other things they liked and stayed. Same with TRR.

And trust me it isn't easy keeping what goes on in the war rooms there where it belongs and out of the other general forums. That has given me a new found respect for staff on other sites like here where they do not allow any type of content that the war room allows anywhere at all. Rich and his staff have to be respected because it takes a lot of work dealing with all the complaints and issues which come up daily.

 

[Gary O]

No worries here darlin......I love your sight and am also a member.........

Those who pick on other's and are willing to put down other's for being differerent are not worthy of TRR or this sight for that matter..........

Thanks this means a lot. I like to think my name carries the honest and "good guy" tag.


To BufoToxin

I still do not get it. The war room has nothing to do with herps really. If you do not like it or get bored, do not read it. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT and post in other sections. Join a herp group. Donate to a herp society that needs your help. But to complain and put down a site for a "VIP" or a request forum when you really do not know the making behind TRR is kinda foolish.

I will say I do not agree with everything posted in the war room. But I can not say this can be posted and that can not in an unmoderated forum. If it does not break a law it is good to go. Freedom is something else. I may get pset about something posted or something may get "old" to me but I do not have to read it then huh?

I will say I do not agree with somethings Rich does here. I have posted them. But not once did I break his TOS when I posted. I did remove my name for awhile after the paid thing. But again there was an issue with a person using my name and selling venomoids. Everyone knows where I stand on that and Rich allowed me to post on that thread without paying. Not once but a few times. THat was really nice of him.

Do I and Rich agree on everything? NO.

People forget a forum is not what mods make it or the admins make it. A site like this one, TRR, RTB, BCF and others are what the members make it. It is so easy to complain. SHOOT I use to do a lot of it. But it is different to say I am not going to complain but I will help make the change. That is what makes a difference........................

I am seeing names on this thread that I thought HATED my guts, now sticking up for me. Then I am seeing names that I have never seen before slamming me. Hey it is all good. Hold your opinions dear to you. Voice them when ever you can. Just remember the person you tell them to will also tell you their opinions. You have to have the open mind to listen to what their opinions mean to them also.

The emails I get daily are huge to me and I get a lot. I get my hate mail still lol. I have gotten death threats. I ask you this. What is worse. Me allowing members to say and post what they want. Or people threatening my life becuase I allow people to voice their opinions?

I say hey it is all good. Love me hate me. I am still going to follow the path I believe. If not I am cheating myself.