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This ball python attack just sounds unlikely

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I'm not expert on Ball pythons but always believed snakes would bite for only 2 reasons. The first being to defend themselves & the second to eat. I dont plan on ever & haven't ever seen a 2 foot ball python eat anything remotely close to the size of a 1 year old child.... read quote below
 
Ball found wrapped on a foot? Well yes, that's what they do when they feel insecure - they wrap around things like a ball. I was just at a reptile show, I can't even count how many people had them wrapped around their wrists like bangles. I suppose a keeper could turn them into an anklet instead of a bracelet if they felt daring, I'm sure it's all the same to the snake...
:eek3: Sorry, that was the first thing to pop into my head when I saw that title.

Like you I'm protective around infants, I don't mean to jest on such matters, so I apologize. :blush: I sincerely hope that nothing untoward happened to any child, but I am skeptical that a young ball python attacked that sleeping baby the way it's painted out.

The parents don't seem familiar with these animals and the fact that the father 'used a blanket' to pull it off makes me think they fear it. If they saw a snake on their young child, what else could it possibly be doing other than "attacking" with the knowledge they have ?
Although it did say they brought him in for treatment of "a bite mark, bruise, and scratches." I hope not, but if it is true, I'd like to know more details. As it is I'm afraid that I can't help taking it with a grain of salt, I've just seen too many people exaggerate during their fifteen minutes of fame interviews, especially if they feel an injury might get them compensation, and that article isn't very absolute. Snakes are very feared and misunderstood, the media loves them, but even then there wouldn't be much of a story in "lost pet just pops up".

I don't know, guess I'm jaded on such stories. :ack2: I hate that there's more negative media on "escaped pythons" though. :bandhead0
*sigh* Hope the kid's okay, pretty sure he will be, but I also hope the shelter properly provides for the small ball until things are settled~ :eek:
 
cuz you know...ball pythons scratch people all the time ~.^

The snake wrapped around the babys leg to try and get warm. The parents are idiots. End of story.

(I wouldn't be thrilled to find an unwelcome animal with my child either, but to take it to this extreme is just silly. Report the story and just add more fear and lack of knowledge to the mix)
 
I will have to read the story when I get back home & get on my computer (kindle fire browser not compatable with the site).

But I highly doubt a ball python was trying to eat an infant. I think like Willow said ... it was trying to get warm.
 
if there are bite marks/scratches, seems like it could easily have happened when the dad was trying to pull it off the kid's ankle.
 
I don't believe it. But I'm sure it's getting them the intended responses from the general public.
 
I do know one thing, people need to do a better job of securing their pets. There is no reason why a person should ever walk in to see an escaped pet snake in with their infant, none.

When my oldest kid was around 6 months old I was showing him one of my cornsnakes. He was in his bouncy chair and seemed interested so I was just showing him it. I was keeping the snake about a foot or two away so my son couldn't grab it. The snake all of a sudden keyed in on my kid in the same way a snake keys in on prey before striking. I started to back away when the snake struck at my kid. I'd never seen anything like it before, and haven't since. It was shortly after that that I got rid of anything larger than a BP.

I've kept snakes a long time, and snakes look and strike at prey in a complete different way than anything else. I probably wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it myself. All I could guess is it has something to do with the way a baby smells, maybe something with the formula or ??

Anytime someone walks in and finds an exotic animal in their infants crib it's going to make the news. And people reading that news are going to react, sometimes with new legislation. Blaming the media is just tossing the blame where it doesn't belong. As keepers we need to do everything we can to keep our pets properly secured, and we need to educate new keepers about the importance in securing their pets as well.
 
Matthew, the corn may have struck out because of the fast bouncy movement and it was feeling defensive. fast repetitive movements can make them nervous. just a thought.
I do agree, it's a shame the BP had escaped from it's home, but as someone that has my share of 'escapees' over the years, mistakes happen.

At least this story doesn't seem to be getting blown out of hand (so far).
 
It was 100% feeding response.

I'm sure most are not going to believe it because they simply don't want to. I wouldn't have if I wouldn't have seen it. But the way an adult cornsnake keys in on potential prey is way different than how it reacts to anything else.
 
I have some reservations about the accuracy of the article as well, but based on some of my experiences it is actually not out of the question.

True a 2 foot ball python would not view a one year old child as a potential meal, but the fact is some snakes as individuals act differently when feeding. Some might call it overly optimistic, and some might just consider it one of the snakes that are at the lower end of the reptilian intelligence scale.

It's quite possible that the snake viewed the big toe, or even the foot of the baby as a potential meal, having no understanding if you will that it was attached to the rest of the child.

Anyone who has kept hognose snakes to any degree has probably had one begin the attempt at engulfing their thumb. I've had that occur numerous times, even with hatchlings which couldn't swallow the thumb if they tried let alone the rest of the body attached to it.

Likewise many kingsnakes are known to give what I call exploratory bites. No strike is involved but they push their nose into some part of your body, often the forearm because of the way they are held, then just open their mouths and bite down to see if it's edible.
I've been bitten many many times by these exploratory bites that come from nowhere while you're holding a snake and talking to someone not noticing that it's eying a piece of your flesh.

Many snakes will attempt to feed on unmoving prey without using a strike at all. Just approach and engulf. Most keepers don't witness this often since even if they feed thawed prey they do so from tongs, which still elicits the strike.
I can see how the foot of a sleeping baby could fall into that category.
 
Speaking for myself, I agree with Willow. The snake was wrapped harmlessly around a warm foot. I'd be pretty excited at the arrival of a free ball python.
BUT...
If I knew nothing about reptiles, was afraid of snakes (as most people are), and woke to find one wrapped around my baby, I guess I can see where it would freak the parents out a bit. My mother would've had a heart attack.
I chalk it up to a total accident that will be way overplayed by the media.

Noelle
 
So, today the headline says the baby was "moments away from death", as evidenced from that loser couple whose son was strangled by a burm in Florida, after they used a blanket as a cage cover, if I remember correctly. Two very different animals, but now the media show begins...

Noelle
 
AOL is my homepage, upon turning the computer on today I see the headline "Deadly Discovery Made in Crib: Devin Winans went to check on his 1-year-old William in the middle of the night -- and he found his son moments away from death."
The article never describes what a "ball python" is (emphasis on the python there, everyone's doing it) or how big it was, but it does reference the tragic incident in 2009 with that abused burm. The people in the comment section raging about how "dangerous animals" should be made illegal and how snakes can never be pets show how well this is going over.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ng-grid7|hp-desktop|dl2|sec1_lnk3&pLid=176704

The neighbor's due to appear in court and the videos say that the whole ordeal has made the family move out of their apartment. "It's just too scary."
There's even an article on some UK news site. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-pet-PYTHON-slipped-crib-tried-EAT-foot.html
 
Another case of the irresponsible making it difficult for everyone else. I realize escapes occur and that mistakes happen but there is absolutely no excuse for your pet, I don't care what it is, to be in your neighbors apartment uninvited, ever. I see comments (maybe not here but on other sites) like "it was only a ball python" and my response is who cares. I don't care if it is a red belly snake. If it is yours it does not belong in my apartment. I think I read somewhere where the owner was given a citation but it didn't say if the snake was taken away. I would not blame the father one bit if he would have insisted it be removed and I would support the decision to remove it.

I doubt the child was in any real danger but that is not the point. It sounds like the father was not a snake person and I can't blame him for his reaction. Had he chopped the snake up everyone here would be vilifying him but in my opinion he would have been more than justified. Hopefully both parties can look upon this as a learning experience. The snake owner need to learn that he has to be more responsible for sure but hopefully the father and the rest of the family can take this time to actually learn about the snakes and realize that most snakes do not present a danger. Although, had it been a 7 foot boa or a 15 foot burm, I'm not sure that would be possible.

As far as the media goes it's a lost cause. Even if both parties get over it the media will milk it for all its worth. As far as they are concerned we might as well be dealing with the snake from the movie "Anaconda"
 
rcarichter said:
Speaking for myself, I agree with Willow. The snake was wrapped harmlessly around a warm foot. I'd be pretty excited at the arrival of a free ball python.
BUT...
If I knew nothing about reptiles, was afraid of snakes (as most people are), and woke to find one wrapped around my baby, I guess I can see where it would freak the parents out a bit. My mother would've had a heart attack.
I chalk it up to a total accident that will be way overplayed by the media.

Noelle
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It's not about agreeing or not, this isn't an opinion on what might happen. Something happened, and only the people who saw it have any say it what took place. So unless you were there you have no clue, like the rest of us, on what happened.
 
I'm not giving an opinion regarding what happened. A small python escaped, ended up in the couple's apartment, and they found it wrapped around their sleeping baby's foot. I'm speculating, as we all are, as to why. Perhaps the snake was 'attacking', as the article said. Although, like yourself, I'm a parent, and I am skeptical that the baby would remain asleep throughout the attack. Maybe, maybe not.
It is, of course, inexcusable that anyone's snake would be in a baby's crib. (I was being sarcastic when I said I'd be happy for the free python). But I'm not overjoyed about the media stating that the baby was moments from death. Perhaps he was, but tell us why. Not because a small python was wrapped around his foot. I'm not blaming the media for the incident, but we're walking a tightrope already as reptile owners, and sensationalizing the danger doesn't help.

Noelle
 
I agree,I can't get it tho people's head that any of my snake are not able to seriously hurt any one, expectually a 2 ft python,dumb parents I guess,I see how they would freak out being there kid and all I love the way it scratch him too,wish people knew wtf they wer talking ab b4 they say $hit like that.some people kill me with the ignorance.
 
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