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Thoughts on sellers passing on paypal fees?

Fees are *always* passed along to the customers in one shape or another by business. Business factor in those cost to the cost they charge on a given product. For hobbyist (like me) it's not as big a deal, but I imagine a business that conducts everything on paypal would simply slightly adjust their prices upward.
That said, an explicit "I charge X amount to cover paypal fees" goes against paypal's TOS. It violates the contract between the seller and paypal.
I don't object to paying shipping cost as a buyer. I don't know why I would; shipping an animal is not cheap and on lower priced animals can cost as much as the critter. If I buy 2 speckled kings for 30 bucks a pop, and it cost 40 to box and ship them...the seller would lose most of the money from that sell.
 
I'm seeing more and more people with ads that state if the buyer wants to pay via paypal to add the 3% for fees.

Aside from it being against paypal's TOS, shouldn't it be considered good business ethics to price your animal to cover those fees? Should the buyer really have to cover the fees for the convenience of the seller getting paid instantly? Are these people really too broke to pony up $10 on a $300 sale? (Or similar..)

Personally, I think this is tacky and will run screaming from any seller who uses it. It's a cost of doing business.

Thoughts?

I agree fully... if you want to tack on another 3% then I will take my biz elsewhere.

I personally dont even mark up my animals an additional 3%. I look at it as a business expense and just write it off at the end of the year. Yeah it hurts the pocket book originally.... but its a part of doing business and good customer service dictates that I eat it at the beginning (at least IMO)
 
This bugs me! Paypal is a business as well and one that has offered a fantastic service to vendors/buyers. Why is it okay to rip them off? Bottom line if you choose as a seller to accept Paypal payments you should be willing to pay the fees, it's just another cost of running a business.

:iagree:

If the transaction is done via credit card it is illegal to ask for the additional 3%. Debit cards are not covered by the law.

I have purchased from sellers that wanted money orders because of the paypal fees, but paypal is just so convenient that I offered to pay the additional 3% and it's usually a done deal.
 
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