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Thoughts on this pairing...is it lethal?

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I know it's a little early but I'm curious if anyone has done this breeding before and if so, do the two "hidden genes" produce a fatal combo?

Any thoughts and speculation are greatly appreciated!
 

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I don't think they have ever used platinums....I'm fairly certain just recently he mentioned that he has only bred his "hidden gene" lessers into the HGW's to get soulsuckers.....paging anyone form NERD or Raphy to chime in on this.
 
Well the hidden gene lesser is the platimum. No lesser has a hidden gene. Just the normal offspring from a platty breeding. But I'm sure you know that with two powerhouse animals like that. :)
 
Actually the Hidden gene lesser's produce soul suckers, your talking about platinums. These are 2 very differant genes. As to the OP's question, not a clue
 
NERD marklets their line of lessers as hidden gene lessers. That being said...they are a product of a lesser to Queen Belinda, which was bred in Africa by Noah.
 
There's no reason to believe the two hidden genes would be fatal. The Super Woma is fatal, yes, but that may or may not have to do with the hidden gene. (Are the Pearls hidden-gene Womas at all?)

There's nothing extra special about hidden genes that would make them more susceptible to fatal mixes. They're just...hidden. Not obvious on the outside. Other than that, they're just your run-of-the-mill genetic "abnormalities" that produce nifty patterns/colors.
 
There aren't any hidden genes in the HGW, it's just a moniker to differentiate between your run of the mill, nothing special, 200.00 dollar woma. HGW x HGW produces pearls which fail. That being said, some people theorize that the same gene that is resposible for producing the soulsucker might in fact be the het platty gene. While there are huge variations in soulsuckers, some are theorizing that the very dilute look to some soulsuckers are in fact a platinum HGW.
 
HGWs produce something very different when bred with a HG Lesser than normal Womas, which means there's some kind of "hidden" gene going on.

But NERD used a Lesser x HGW to get Soul Suckers, and as far as we know, the het Platinum gene is allelic to the Lesser gene, which means Lessers cannot have the gene. It's possible that the genes are related, but I highly doubt it's the same gene.
 
R. Eventide said:
HGWs produce something very different when bred with a HG Lesser than normal Womas, which means there's some kind of "hidden" gene going on.

But NERD used a Lesser x HGW to get Soul Suckers, and as far as we know, the het Platinum gene is allelic to the Lesser gene, which means Lessers cannot have the gene. It's possible that the genes are related, but I highly doubt it's the same gene.
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Not true from what I understand - The HGW is a single co-dominant gene that just happens to look like a Woma. And since they were given a crappy name (HGW) people get confused and thing there really is a hidden gene. In the beginning it was thought there was a hidden gene but then later found it's just a different gene altogether, not related to the Woma. It should be Type I and Type II Woma (which I've seen a few people adopt, thankfully.)

The Pearl is the super-form of the HGW (or Type II :p) Womas don't have a (visible) super, they are dominant.

I don't know anything about Kevin's HG Lesser's, but he's even guessed (in his ads) it might be the same thing as the Platty gene. So who knows on that front for now :p
 
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Not true from what I understand - The HGW is a single co-dominant gene that just happens to look like a Woma. And since they were given a crappy name (HGW) people get confused and thing there really is a hidden gene. In the beginning it was thought there was a hidden gene but then later found it's just a different gene altogether, not related to the Woma. It should be Type I and Type II Woma (which I've seen a few people adopt, thankfully.)

The Pearl is the super-form of the HGW (or Type II :p) Womas don't have a (visible) super, they are dominant.

I don't know anything about Kevin's HG Lesser's, but he's even guessed (in his ads) it might be the same thing as the Platty gene. So who knows on that front for now :p
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OH! Well, that explains it! I like the Type I/Type II idea; it helps keep people like me from getting so confuddled. :p Thanks for clearing this up! Hee hee, just when I think I'm finally understanding something.... :D

Now I have more Type I/II things to remember.... Already get a bunch of Type I/II astronomical objects confused (Seyferts, AGN/QSOs, supernovae, radio galaxies). :ack2:
 
R. Eventide said:
OH! Well, that explains it! I like the Type I/Type II idea; it helps keep people like me from getting so confuddled. :p Thanks for clearing this up! Hee hee, just when I think I'm finally understanding something.... :D

Now I have more Type I/II things to remember.... Already get a bunch of Type I/II astronomical objects confused (Seyferts, AGN/QSOs, supernovae, radio galaxies). :ack2:
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haha, I know! I'm pretty sure that's right, from all that I've read from other breeders and it just makes more sense. Brian at BHB says he's bred regular Womas to each other and not gotten anything special... (I never talked to him, but that's the story I read :rolleyes:)

I think we should all start saying Type I/Type II... force it to catch on :yesnod:
 
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