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My vet took a look at the body of the dead one this morning, and just called me.

She says the snake basically died of starvation, and it could not have starved in just 30 days. She feels it was not fed well (or at all) prior to me receiving it and my trying to feed it after it going without food for so long made it go into shock.

She's running more tests and sending some of the feces found in the snake to be tested for crypto and other infections.

As for the still-living one, she suggested I try a fluid regimen for a few days, then slowly start giving it nutrients so as not to put it through shock.
 
I have been following this thread from the beginning & cannot understand why the buyer wouldn't contact the seller right away if it was thought they weren't healthy or that she wasn't happy with them. Also why would Clara have put pictures up on her website if they were in bad shape when she got them or wait this long to take to vet if she thought something was wrong. I can't see how the seller should be responsible for animals that had been out of her care for over 45 days (almost 7 times the guarantee period) & come on here stating them a Bad Guy. From seeing how Krystal has conducted herself on here I believe she would worked with you from the beginning had she been notified sooner. After this much time has transpired I can't see the seller being expected to do anything.
 
I should re-word the 'fluid' regimen. By that, I meant try giving it just water and not attempting to feed it until I can get it in for an examination along with a fecal sample. Then I can try giving it nutrients.

Someone else suggested trying pedialyte, but I'm going to let the vet decide on that.

BTW Rainbowboaman: I received the animals on the 4th of November, and I emailed her about the problems on the 18th of December. Yes, it took time, but I was really trying to save these guys. Give me some credit here. When a snake regurges, it is VITAL that it is given time to recouperate before feeding it again. Yes I should have contacted her sooner, but wasn't I showing that I care for them by trying to save them?
 
She says the snake basically died of starvation
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Well, personally, I am back to thinking the green defecation was bile.

Its tough to say what could have caused the start of the regurgitation mess... But maybe you should go through everything in regards to husbandry again...

The snakes were kept in gladware tubs, if I remember correctly? I assume you are referring to the disposable sandwich size (or larger) tubs.

Do you own a heat gun? Do you know exactly what the temperatures were on the hot side and cold side of the tubs - day and night?

Were the snakes given adequate hiding space?

Were the snakes handled at all after eating?

Did they have access to fresh water at all times?

I remember last year having a baby corn with fits of regurgitation whenever I fed it in the evening... And I found out my nighttime temperatures were dropping a bit too low - and the snake was unable to digest it's meal fully. Sometimes I would find a regurged pinky the next morning, and sometimes it would take a day or two.

Just thoughts...
 
Yes, I own a temperature gun.

Yes, I checked the temps, I actually have a thermostat hooked up to the Ultratherm heat mat, and a digital thermometer stuck to the middle of the heat mat.

They were kept in gladware sandwich tubs, with a small cup of water (condiment cup) and another, wider condiment cup as a hide. They were always kept on paper towel.

They were not handled after eating-ever. In fact, they were not handled much at all except when I was cleaning out their tubs.

They always had access to water. I kept the water dish in with them 24/7 and cleaned/refilled it as necessary.

I kept them as I did all my other baby corn snakes, and none of the other baby corns (just these two) are sick in any way.
 
I have received 2 or 3 hatchling colubrids in the past that have met similar fates, in that they were probably never fed or only fed once after hatching, by the time I got them they were a couple of months old, I feed them a meal, they regurge and die. It is just too much for their systems to be starved for a couple of months, then be fed, they just cannot handle it.

As for the green and white crap, I have never seen that before so I cannot comment on that.
 
Thats exactly what my vet was talking about when she called me. I've had hatchlings here myself who didn't eat for a month, but were fine after that. I've never had one refuse for longer than 30 days-if I did, I'd try other feeding methods first, then if its still not eating after everything I tried, humanely euthanize it.

I told my vet how long I had these two for, and she said this level of starvation takes alot longer than I had them. She also said the green stuff was bile. She was not sure what the white was. She is sending a sample away for testing.
 
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