pch101
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Tom Carlton dishonest and unethical
- Thread starter The Constrictor Zone
- Start date
Jeff,
Although I agree with you (and manifested a similar opinion a while back) there is a chance that with 1,000 plus animals and a life to lead, Tom might not have enough time to be on top of everything that goes on behind the scenes. I’m pretty sure that if we ask the Barkers’ or Ralph who Dan is they won’t even have a clue. Although on the other hand (and allow me to argue against myself!) the chances of them doing a breeding loan with him are one in a million. In the famous words words of Harry (Dumb and Dumber) ..."So you are telling me there is a chance"...
Brock
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How's that old Irish song go?
"Oh Danny Boy the pipes are calling." Looks like your done here too Dan.
I tell you what Danny Boy, if you want to take a lie-detector test I WILL PAY FOR IT, but you have to answer a few extra questions for me.
Did you have IBD kill off your collection and did you continue to sell off whatever was left alive without any disclosure to the reptile community? Like an ethical breeder would do.
Did you knowingly send me an animal infected with IBD to try and minimize your losses.
If you prove your not lying about Tom's breeding loans and your IBD incident I will publicly apologize. If you don't pass you have to promise to pay me the $2500 you owe me and crawl back under your rock and never show your face in the Reptile community again.
You have nothing to lose if you're telling the truth, not even the $200 now, but we all know what you're going to do, lol.
Brock
I have to work outside the next 10 to 12 hours so if anyone needs to reach me about this, feel free to call me on my cell. 201-214-0427
"Oh Danny Boy the pipes are calling." Looks like your done here too Dan.
I tell you what Danny Boy, if you want to take a lie-detector test I WILL PAY FOR IT, but you have to answer a few extra questions for me.
Did you have IBD kill off your collection and did you continue to sell off whatever was left alive without any disclosure to the reptile community? Like an ethical breeder would do.
Did you knowingly send me an animal infected with IBD to try and minimize your losses.
If you prove your not lying about Tom's breeding loans and your IBD incident I will publicly apologize. If you don't pass you have to promise to pay me the $2500 you owe me and crawl back under your rock and never show your face in the Reptile community again.
You have nothing to lose if you're telling the truth, not even the $200 now, but we all know what you're going to do, lol.
Brock
I have to work outside the next 10 to 12 hours so if anyone needs to reach me about this, feel free to call me on my cell. 201-214-0427
Sasheena
Imperfect
I thought it was TOM who was going to take the test, not Dan?
Cypresscreek
New member
Update:
I was just talking with a customer when guess who called through on call waiting, A Mr. Dan Haney. He asked when I would like to take this lie detector test. I said right now!
I checked around and found an accredited polygraph tech to do the test.
His name is Dave Bryant, with Custom Polygraph Svc, in Tampa, Fl. 813-978-1811
There is on thing though, the price is $400. Years ago I checked on a price to have an employee that had ripped me off take a test and they where around $200.
I guess the price has gone up. Two other companies were $500-$550.
Another was $300 but said I can't used his name on line. So he's a quack and we wouldn't be doing it there.
After talking to these guys, I would like to take the test at Custom Polygraph.
I told Dan to call me back in five minutes. That was 45 minutes ago and I haven't heard from him yet.
I got to go now, I'll call him myself.
I have a lie detector test to take.
I was just talking with a customer when guess who called through on call waiting, A Mr. Dan Haney. He asked when I would like to take this lie detector test. I said right now!
I checked around and found an accredited polygraph tech to do the test.
His name is Dave Bryant, with Custom Polygraph Svc, in Tampa, Fl. 813-978-1811
There is on thing though, the price is $400. Years ago I checked on a price to have an employee that had ripped me off take a test and they where around $200.
I guess the price has gone up. Two other companies were $500-$550.
Another was $300 but said I can't used his name on line. So he's a quack and we wouldn't be doing it there.
After talking to these guys, I would like to take the test at Custom Polygraph.
I told Dan to call me back in five minutes. That was 45 minutes ago and I haven't heard from him yet.
I got to go now, I'll call him myself.
I have a lie detector test to take.
Matt Haines
Reacts on instinct...
Maybe he is getting cold feet. Dan, you've been called to task. Can you perform?
For $100 I'll give you a "pretty good idea" of how the results will read.
Cypresscreek
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Dan:
If you are implying that because I didn't know what the current price of a polygraph test is makes me a crook.
I'll take you're bet right now. Let's make it for $1000
I bet you $1000 that the results to test questions:
*Have you produced any snakes from your breeding loan with Dan Haney's Spider?
*Did you produce more than the one female Het Ghost from breeding Dan's Ghost?
I bet you $1000 that I pass both those questions when I take the test. The answe will be NO I DID NOT!
It doesn't take much courage to tap out your little digs on me on your key board
Your the one who brought up a bet lets see if you take this one.
Also if you take this bet. I'll pay for the polygraph test!
Yours truefully
Tom Carlton
If you are implying that because I didn't know what the current price of a polygraph test is makes me a crook.
I'll take you're bet right now. Let's make it for $1000
I bet you $1000 that the results to test questions:
*Have you produced any snakes from your breeding loan with Dan Haney's Spider?
*Did you produce more than the one female Het Ghost from breeding Dan's Ghost?
I bet you $1000 that I pass both those questions when I take the test. The answe will be NO I DID NOT!
It doesn't take much courage to tap out your little digs on me on your key board
Your the one who brought up a bet lets see if you take this one.
Also if you take this bet. I'll pay for the polygraph test!
Yours truefully
Tom Carlton
Cypresscreek
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The previous post regarding the bet was intended for Dan Garcia not Dan Haney.
Tom Carlton
Tom Carlton
My goodness Tom! Easy on the caffeine! You completely misunderstood what I meant. What I tried to say was that I don’t need to pay that much money to know who is telling the truth. For just $100 anyone here can probably take a guess and know who the lying party was. Get my point now?
Regards.
Jungle Gems
Useful Idiot
The BoidSmith said:
Yes, Tom... and allow me to reiterate that Dan Garcia was siding with you and was saying that he would not need $400.00 worth of a polygraph test to put you in the clear as far as he was concerned (and I am quite inclined to agree with him). The outcome is already anticipated in your favor.
Cypresscreek
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Dan G
Sorry, Man I guess I read that wrong, I'm a little fired up about this whole thing.
I'd really like to take that test. Maybe someone else out there would like to take that bet.
How about you Dan Haney?
Tom
Sorry, Man I guess I read that wrong, I'm a little fired up about this whole thing.
I'd really like to take that test. Maybe someone else out there would like to take that bet.
How about you Dan Haney?
Tom
Jungle Gems
Useful Idiot
Tom...
With the amount of defamation you have received as of late, I don't blame you for being a little "edgy". Do realize, however, that Dan Garcia is a great ally to have and I would embrace his support because his notions are usually correct. By the way, I wouldn't take that bet you are advocating even if I had 1000.00 to throw off the face of a cliff.
With the amount of defamation you have received as of late, I don't blame you for being a little "edgy". Do realize, however, that Dan Garcia is a great ally to have and I would embrace his support because his notions are usually correct. By the way, I wouldn't take that bet you are advocating even if I had 1000.00 to throw off the face of a cliff.
Cypresscreek
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Jennifer:
You make a good point.
thnx
Tom
You make a good point.
thnx
Tom
pch101
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"I'm a little fired up about this whole thing. I'd really like to take that test."
If and when the time comes, I would suggest that you loose that edge and try to relax as well. Otherwise the results could be adversely affected.
If and when the time comes, I would suggest that you loose that edge and try to relax as well. Otherwise the results could be adversely affected.
Brock
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Tom,
I think 99% of the people here believe you so even if you took the test it would just confirm what most already know.
On the other hand if we put Danny Boy in the hot seat we could clear up your problems with him in just a few questions and prove he's lying.
Then we could move on to the BONUS round of questions and finally get some answers that would close up all the open unanswered threads on this guy and maybe even show old Danny Boy he's in the wrong buisness and convince him to just go away for good this time.
I'll still kick in my $200 if you want to throw in the other $200 then we got it covered, how about it Danny Boy, care to sit down and answer a few questions. I seriously doubt it. Dan likes to do things by phone and called me on Thursday but I didn't answer because I want it here in print, he left a message that he would take the test anytime, anywhere. Lets see you repeat that here in print Danny Boy.
Brock
I think 99% of the people here believe you so even if you took the test it would just confirm what most already know.
On the other hand if we put Danny Boy in the hot seat we could clear up your problems with him in just a few questions and prove he's lying.
Then we could move on to the BONUS round of questions and finally get some answers that would close up all the open unanswered threads on this guy and maybe even show old Danny Boy he's in the wrong buisness and convince him to just go away for good this time.
I'll still kick in my $200 if you want to throw in the other $200 then we got it covered, how about it Danny Boy, care to sit down and answer a few questions. I seriously doubt it. Dan likes to do things by phone and called me on Thursday but I didn't answer because I want it here in print, he left a message that he would take the test anytime, anywhere. Lets see you repeat that here in print Danny Boy.
Brock
The first question should be: “do you post messages praising yourself under fictitious names”? If he answers no, I don’t think the paper of the polygraph will be wide enough to register the spike. Test over.
Cat_72
Back from exile :)
Stop!!!!
You GOTTA stop saying stuff like that...I just about had a cappucino covered keyboard!!!
You GOTTA stop saying stuff like that...I just about had a cappucino covered keyboard!!!
gmherps
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The BoidSmith said:The first question should be: “do you post messages praising yourself under fictitious names”? If he answers no, I don’t think the paper of the polygraph will be wide enough to register the spike. Test over.
Now that is a good one!
pch101
New member
Dan apparently tried to serve me up some negative rep in response to this post that I made about him.
"Seriously Dan, maybe if you made an effort to answer to the many allegations that have been made against you in all of your previous threads, then we could move on. But until then, why in the world should any of ever believe you. Lets say that by some incredible set of circumstances you are actually telling the truth. Well nobody cares because you never fixed your past, so now you are nothing more than the boy who cried wolf. Basically, you have zero credibility here. So in short, it may have served you well to answer those questions that were put to you."
And to think I was trying to help him. Maybe he couldn't see through the tough love aspect of the mesage. Dan, you need to have rep, to give it or take it. What you have is quickly disappearing. Can't you figure things out and do anything right? Maybe I should go ahead and serve you some negative rep on every post that you have made that contains lies. That would be a very tough task now wouldn't it. But it could be done with the help of the rest of the Fauna community. Think about it.
"Seriously Dan, maybe if you made an effort to answer to the many allegations that have been made against you in all of your previous threads, then we could move on. But until then, why in the world should any of ever believe you. Lets say that by some incredible set of circumstances you are actually telling the truth. Well nobody cares because you never fixed your past, so now you are nothing more than the boy who cried wolf. Basically, you have zero credibility here. So in short, it may have served you well to answer those questions that were put to you."
And to think I was trying to help him. Maybe he couldn't see through the tough love aspect of the mesage. Dan, you need to have rep, to give it or take it. What you have is quickly disappearing. Can't you figure things out and do anything right? Maybe I should go ahead and serve you some negative rep on every post that you have made that contains lies. That would be a very tough task now wouldn't it. But it could be done with the help of the rest of the Fauna community. Think about it.