Tom Crutchfield - dba Herps Ltd

[East_Coast]

Pairing ETB's

Peter,
In light of recent events with JJ, do you think it wise to pair up fresh off the boat imports, without "Q", just to have babies to sell later this year? JJ's situation is very sad, 21 years of effort and 100 emeralds gone in a little over a weeks time. I hope the source of the animal responsible, even after a year of "Q" didn't originate from Herps Ltd. I haven't done business with them since Tom became associated, but I did get most of my "freezer collection" of emeralds from the owners son.

Craig, I don't know. My animals are all thriving but we will see what happens later. I did not do it to generate revenue - if I do get any babies I am going to give them away to friends for free.

Both pairs that I received from T.C. on February 2nd were and are large and healthy - and I have seen both in hours long copulation. I have never bred boas but I have enough friends that do it to know that copulation is a step in the process but certainly not a guarantee of babies.

I don't know if it was a good decision to pair them up or not - but I wonder more about why you brought that up on this BOI thread? What does THAT have to do with THIS?

- Peter Jolles

 

[hhmoore]

From a couple of smart ass, off topic comments to a free for all...makes it hard to decide where to start or stop with warnings and attempts to restore order. I'll do it this way: The topic of this thread is Tom Crutchfield dba Herps Ltd. Kindly bring the discussion back to that topic, and take all of the unrelated BS elsewhere.

 

[varnyard]

I think we have taken this thread far enough off track.

If you would like to continue to embarrass yourself, I'll be happy to engage in some other thread. Maybe we should continue this in the infamous Wilomn a Brief Expose thread where you sought to illuminate the membership about the inner workings of yourself, or maybe the thread where you compared yourself to Robin Hood. Either one will work.

Name the place and we'll move the party.

This coming from someone who cannot even tell everyone who they are. Yes, anyone can go back and read your posts, as to your intent here. They can also see the hidden game you are playing.

As for you Peter, your morals lack far behind many of the people here, the way you have treated people that answer your ads leaves a bunch to be desired. I will also add, you have stated you just don't care what anyone thinks. They can read your thread on the BOI and get a real good look as to the real you. So IMO, I would not take your advise on dealing with anyone you claim are good guys. JMHO.

 

[critical bill]

Agreed - Mr Wilson's comments were juvenile and completely out of line.

Oh please you ass-muncher. Get an honest to god original thought of your own and stop agreeing with everyone smarter than you. Were you beyond posting what Roz posted as you sat on the thread waiting for something you could simply agree to? What a sad failure you are.

The thing that gets me though, is that Wes and Chuck can spew profanity and insults all over a thread and yet their moderator friends simply look the other way.

I'm friendly to the old mods on this site but in no way would I think or do I think that they would think that we are truly friends as we have never even met one another in person. I would say I'm friends with some regular posters that may have new moderator abilities in light of the changes around here, but even they I have never met in person. But in no way would that status change if they deem what I've written is inapropriate and hit me with warning points for it.

Did you know that in all my time in membership here I have never ever complained to any mod for warning points they issued me? I've apologized for letting the situation get the best of me at times and thats about it. So stop your whining you big fairy. The thing that gets you is you. Your full of yourself and quite frankly I think and I think most people think that youre made up of 100% crap.

Not being called on the carpet for their behavior sends the message that this behavior is acceptable. How is this helping the legitimacy of the BOI?

How is it hurting the BOI when the comments I've put forth are to a worthless sack of crap that doesnt know his ass from his elbow and it was he that was on the attack long before I arrived to put him in his place? I think they might feel it was in just cause. Maybe not. But I unlike you didnt consider that out of fear of points or suspensions. Again you behave like a fairy. I just do what I do and let what happens next happen next. I cant control the future but rather I try and change the crappy outcome some have in mind to a much better one.

Is there anyone here (other then Wes and Chuck) who doesn't think that their last few posts on this thread were sophomoric and insulting to the members here. What about the children who frequent this site. Should they be exposed to this?

I would think that the vast majority of posters frequenting the BOI have been involved in either a good transaction or a bad one. Surely that would be the reason for the input either a negative or positive way wouldn't it? And I would believe that anyone involved in a business transaction posting to the BOI would be of age to accomplish that? So where does this children are reading crap comment come into place? Are you bouncing your 10yr old on your knee while your posting? Are you a child who's parents aren't supervising his/her Internet time? Dude...grow a brain. If your old enough to engage in a business transaction, and post your comments on a public forum about it, then your old enough to take the sometimes harsh criticism that comes along with it.

Ya know....your such a dud sledge. Your like a bum box of firecrackers I had on the fourth of July once. Such a dissapointment. Tossing each one and expecting to hear a bang and then nuttin. PFFFT.....

 

[East_Coast]

Huh?

This coming from someone who cannot even tell everyone who they are. Yes, anyone can go back and read your posts, as to your intent here. They can also see the hidden game you are playing.

As for you Peter, your morals lack far behind many of the people here, the way you have treated people that answer your ads leaves a bunch to be desired. I will also add, you have stated you just don't care what anyone thinks. They can read your thread on the BOI and get a real good look as to the real you. So IMO, I would not take your advise on dealing with anyone you claim are good guys. JMHO.

Varnyard - Good - please don't take my advise. My advice -? maybe... but certainly not my advise.

- Peter Jolles

 

[critical bill]

From a couple of smart ass, off topic comments to a free for all...makes it hard to decide where to start or stop with warnings and attempts to restore order. I'll do it this way: The topic of this thread is Tom Crutchfield dba Herps Ltd. Kindly bring the discussion back to that topic, and take all of the unrelated BS elsewhere.

I apologize Harald. I didn't see your post as I was doing what you frowned upon and were asking to halt when I was typing and sending it. I do have enough respect for you that I would have complied with your wish and bit my fingers.

Back on topic:

Tom is shithead. Tom is a shithead that damaged this industry. He's a bully that tries to use his sagging physique with those who are of weaker value in mind, body, and spirit. His service way back when sucked and so it goes to this very day. Puck him and the slimy salamander he used from under a prison rock to wiggle his way back into this industry.

 

[CurtisF]

I am in high school, outside of high school

 

[critical bill]

Varnyard - Good - please don't take my advise. My advice -? maybe... but certainly not my advise.

- Peter Jolles

Didn't you get the memo from Harald you horses ass? Go rub yourself with a stick of butter and slide back into Billy Wilson's rectum. Take the short cut around his sac and don't bother with the long way home you simpleton.

You spelled a word wrong Bobby and good old Pete was ever so clever enough to catch it and use it against ya. Better watch it with this butt monkey or he'll challenge you to a spelling bee.

 

[East_Coast]

Critical Bill -

Didn't you get the memo from Harald you horses ass? Go rub yourself with a stick of butter and slide back into Billy Wilson's rectum. Take the short cut around his sac and don't bother with the long way home you simpleton.

You spelled a word wrong Bobby and good old Pete was ever so clever enough to catch it and use it against ya. Better watch it with this butt monkey or he'll challenge you to a spelling bee.

Joking aside: I think there is something mentally wrong with you and I hope you do not have access to firearms.

 

[critical bill]

Joking aside: I think there is something mentally wrong with you and I hope you do not have access to firearms.

Have no fear. You wouldnt be worth a single paintball. I wouldnt waste my spit on a spitball with you. Why when I can do this so easily?

Go home Pete. Call it a day.

 

[varnyard]

Joking aside: I think there is something mentally wrong with you and I hope you do not have access to firearms.

This thread is about someone you claim is a good guy, in order for it to mean something, you would need to have better creditability than you have shown here. You do have a bad guy thread on the BOI Peter. I am sure everyone here seen I missed a letter in a word, but I do not think they missed my point.

Your morals lack, as such your thoughts on who would be great to do business with would be questionable at best, is that better Peter?

 

[Stardust]

From a couple of smart ass, off topic comments to a free for all...makes it hard to decide where to start or stop with warnings and attempts to restore order. I'll do it this way: The topic of this thread is Tom Crutchfield dba Herps Ltd. Kindly bring the discussion back to that topic, and take all of the unrelated BS elsewhere.

From this post on I will be watching for swearing and over abuse.
Please take heed and stick to the subject and the rules.

 

[East_Coast]

I think you are wrong -

This thread is about someone you claim is a good guy, in order for it to mean something, you would need to have better creditability than you have shown here. You do have a bad guy thread on the BOI Peter. I am sure everyone here seen I missed a letter in a word, but I do not think they missed my point.

Your morals lack, as such your thoughts on who would be great to do business with would be questionable at best, is that better Peter?

Actually - I don't think the thread about me was a "bad guy" thread. I never sold the original poster anyting. As a matter of fact I told the OP that I refused to do business with him. If it makes me a BAD GUY to tell a non-buying price-whoring time-wasting cry-baby to go pound sand - SO BE IT.

Secondly - Not one person who actually bought a snake from me complained about me at all. Actually - they came to my defense in that thread.

Thirdly - There are many people in here that agree with me but would never post it - fearing immediate and biting attacks by the gang of pansie-computer screen bullies that prowl this BOI.

Back to the topic at hand: I bought 15 Emerald Tree Boas from Tom Crutchfield back in early February. I have a few hundred picks of them up - and they are all dated. See my Emerald Tree Boa page here:
http://www.heat-pits.com/Corallus_caninus/corallus_caninus.htm
Nothing on my site is for sale so this is not an ad to sell anything. See for yourself the quality of animals you can get from Tom Crutchfield. I don't know the guy and haven't talked to him since February - and then only about these snakes.

I have nothing to gain by promoting him - just trying to help a few fellow herpers by pointing them in the direction of someone that treated me right.

- Peter Jolles

 

[varnyard]

East_Coast: I refused to do business with him. If it makes me a BAD GUY to tell a non-buying price-whoring time-wasting cry-baby to go pound sand - SO BE IT.

Thank you Peter, I think you proved my point.

Enough said.

 

[critical bill]

Back to the topic at hand: I bought 15 Emerald Tree Boas from Tom Crutchfield back in early February. - Peter Jolles

Geesh...now you got me confused Pete. You started this thread and its opening statements you claimed to buy 9 baby emeralds in January. Now you have 15 that you bought from in early February.

The topic at hand is you cant get your story straight. Did you correct yourself somewhere in this thread that I;m not aware of? I wouldn't think to waste that much of my time viewing every post you made to see if you made a correction.

If you have not, can you tell us now how it went from 9 snakes in January to 15 snakes in early February?

There is a plus difference of a solid month and 6 snakes. No t hat Tom wouldnt be generous to give you more that you failed to note. I'm just questioning how generous you may have been with ass smoke you've been blowing around in anticipation you lack a credible explanation for this discrepancy.

 

[East_Coast]

Critical Bill -

Geesh...now you got me confused Pete. You started this thread and its opening statements you claimed to buy 9 baby emeralds in January. Now you have 15 that you bought from in early February.

The topic at hand is you cant get your story straight. Did you correct yourself somewhere in this thread that I;m not aware of? I wouldn't think to waste that much of my time viewing every post you made to see if you made a correction.

If you have not, can you tell us now how it went from 9 snakes in January to 15 snakes in early February?

There is a plus difference of a solid month and 6 snakes. No t hat Tom wouldnt be generous to give you more that you failed to note. I'm just questioning how generous you may have been with ass smoke you've been blowing around in anticipation you lack a credible explanation for this discrepancy.

Critical Bill:

Actually, I have 17 total Emeralds. I just tallied them and 14 came from Tom Crutchfield. I think the 15th (labeled as "EI" on my site) came from Tom C. but I never clarified. The 16th and 17th came from Carnivorous Orchid (they are my CB 2005 animals). So, for the record - 14 were bought by me from him. Good enough or are you going to accuse me of lying again?

I have so many of them that I lost track. The original post states 9 because, at the time of the 1st post I think I only had 9 from him. You see, dumbass, I bought them at TWO DIFFERENT TIMES - both groups in February.

Good night and happy hunting - there may be more and better things you can question me about on my site.

- Peter Jolles

 

[critical bill]

Pete dont go to bed yet. I would like an explanation for the month and 6 snake differential between your thread starter and your last post exposing this discrepency.

It could be something as simple as multiple transactions with Tom that you've failed to note in your fluster. Or it could be that you've lied. Personally I think your a liar.

We are waiting for an answer Pete.

 

[critical bill]

Not that easy Pete!

You said and I quote:

"Back to the topic at hand: I bought 15 Emerald Tree Boas from Tom Crutchfield back in early February."

This is your thread that you started. You had 9 to start and now you have 15. Your month of purchase and total count is off. You're a liar Pete. You're busted. You had ample time to add any new transactions you had with Tom that would have brought your total count to the correct number.

Tally my ass. Lost track my ass. You are a liar...plain and simple.

Critical Bill:

Actually, I have 17 total Emeralds. I just tallied them and 14 came from Tom Crutchfield. I think the 15th (labeled as "EI" on my site) came from Tom C. but I never clarified. The 16th and 17th came from Carnivorous Orchid (they are my CB 2005 animals). So, for the record - 14 were bought by me from him. Good enough or are you going to accuse me of lying again?

I have so many of them that I lost track. The original post states 9 because, at the time of the 1st post I think I only had 9 from him. You see, dumbass, I bought them at TWO DIFFERENT TIMES - both groups in February.

Good night and happy hunting - there may be more and better things you can question me about on my site.

- Peter Jolles

 

[East_Coast]

Chuck ---

Pete dont go to bed yet. I would like an explanation for the month and 6 snake differential between your thread starter and your last post exposing this discrepency.

It could be something as simple as multiple transactions with Tom that you've failed to note in your fluster. Or it could be that you've lied. Personally I think your a liar.

We are waiting for an answer Pete.

Really digging now, aren't you Chuck?

I paid for the 1st group in January - and received them via Delta Dash on Friday, February 2nd. That group consists of all of my babies except green female #2.

The second goup was shipped to me via Delta Dash on Friday, February 23. That group consists of green female #2, females "sf" and "bf", and males "sm" and "bm" (this is how they are labeled on my site.)

The other adult (female "ei") came from Eric Ivins - he hand-picked it from the importer (as he told me on the phone) and lives in the same town as Herps Ltd ---- so I just assumed he got her from Tom C.

The two CB 2005 Emeralds I have came from www.carnivorousorchid.com. That's the skinny.

Any more questions - please email me - I will give you my phone number. I am sure you won't have the guts though.

 

[critical bill]

Good night and happy hunting - there may be more and better things you can question me about on my site.

- Peter Jolles

Oh my gosh. Now I have to visit YOUR site in order to figure out that you lied? Face it bud, if you had multiple positive transactions that would give you the correct number of snakes you purchased from Tom, why wouldn't you post both of them on this thread...your thread? Because you're a liar and Toms biggest fan. Plain and simple. You're busted.