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- Thread starter tejasranger
- Start date
MGReptiles
Registered User
Ooook now thats scary, how did you get those pics?
nextworld3
New member
Sorry its a secret lol... I can get a picture of anyones house in any country with it, pretty scary program if you ask me... Im sure some other people have it out there, i cant remember how to download it to your computer though sorry.
Golden Gate Geckos
Mean Old Gecko Lady
When someone files a claim against another with PayPal, doesn't it also make it impossible to give refunds as well?
Gecko_Den
New member
Looks residential to me, that and i did a search on the address. Apt. 12 didn't come up, but several neighbors did, all listed as "apt. #" not suite # or anything that you would expect to come up in a business park.
nextworld3
New member
I wasn't going to get involved but... i care about the ball market and people not getting ripped off, thats basically why i started the "Hunters Guide", So here is the way i see it...
I will say thought that i get most of my animals and supplies shipped to my apt, but i keep most of my snakes elsewhere...
Another thing that has been bothering me is- They always seem to have an endless supply of hets but they never produce any visual simple recessive traits??? Being in the ball market myself (and shipping an endless amount of boxes a week - which i will address later) I have never seen someone not keep any Het females for themselves. In my opinion that would be a very bad business move. I think TSE has been selling hets since at least 2003 (could be wrong) that means that should have a least produced SOME visual Albinos and Piebalds by now... Forget about other people proving out there hets, the question is HAVE THEY EVER PROVED OUT ANY OF THEIR HETS and if not WHY ARE THEY NOT KEEPING ANY OF THEIR OWN HETS??? i mean come on visuals are worth a LOT more than hets...
Also i have never heard of FEDEX or UPS limiting the number of boxes... that is basically a garbage excuse in my book. At the very leastthey could drop them off at a pickup center and ship as many boxes as they want
I will say thought that i get most of my animals and supplies shipped to my apt, but i keep most of my snakes elsewhere...
Another thing that has been bothering me is- They always seem to have an endless supply of hets but they never produce any visual simple recessive traits??? Being in the ball market myself (and shipping an endless amount of boxes a week - which i will address later) I have never seen someone not keep any Het females for themselves. In my opinion that would be a very bad business move. I think TSE has been selling hets since at least 2003 (could be wrong) that means that should have a least produced SOME visual Albinos and Piebalds by now... Forget about other people proving out there hets, the question is HAVE THEY EVER PROVED OUT ANY OF THEIR HETS and if not WHY ARE THEY NOT KEEPING ANY OF THEIR OWN HETS??? i mean come on visuals are worth a LOT more than hets...
Also i have never heard of FEDEX or UPS limiting the number of boxes... that is basically a garbage excuse in my book. At the very leastthey could drop them off at a pickup center and ship as many boxes as they want
nextworld3
New member
though... oops
Casey Hulse
New member
Apt #2
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812 French Road #2
Cheektowaga NY 14227
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812 French Road #2
Cheektowaga NY 14227
tejasranger
New member
I got a PM from someone that said it was #6
tejasranger
New member
It looks like an Apt. complex, see the two sidewalks in the long bldgs.They go to the breezeways and stairs. If it was a office complex it would have more sidewalks and driveways for overhead doors.
I too am wondering about the Good Guy Certification. With upwards of 1,000 people visiting every day, and the prominence of this thread, one would hope that those who come here would respect the very foundation that Fauna was built upon: the BOI that was created to help people get information and not get ripped off.
I do think there is a place for 'wait and see' attitudes but I cast my vote today because I've seen more than I really wanted to about this whole mess, and I hope other people will consider taking a stand also.
I hope people have the courage to step up and vote, and show what Fauna is made of.......
I do think there is a place for 'wait and see' attitudes but I cast my vote today because I've seen more than I really wanted to about this whole mess, and I hope other people will consider taking a stand also.
I hope people have the courage to step up and vote, and show what Fauna is made of.......
Paperkid
New member
You know....
in early to mid January when I sent TSE an e-mail asking about my shipment. After I sent off my e-mail I decided to go over to the TSE forum to see if there was any message posted there about the delayed shipments, since I could not find anything on Fauna. I thought that Chris might had gone to do a show somewhere, or was on vacation while the weather cleared, or that maybe I was being centered out for some stupid reason (a completely different story and possibly a new BOI thread but it has nothing to do with Chris). When I did arrive at the TSE forum I did find a guy in Texas that was having the same problems I was having, sad because I was happy that I finally didn't feel so alone. Nicholas was there trying to keep the situation contained so it would not get too blown out of proportion. Nick told the guy that he has alerted Chris and that the guy would receive his shipment if he lives in an area that the weather is expectable to ship to. My impression of Nick at that time was that he was more than a monitor but a close friend of Chris. Chris did find his way to that thread and he did explain that he and his guys had just came back from a show. I thought that I was right all along and so I put aside what I felt were only paranoid thoughts - what a relief! Chris went on to say, what we have already heard and IMO nothing very remarkable either, that the weather where they are and the destination has to be expectable before they will ship out. I also remember another guy who posted on that thread that said he was considering making a purchase of some snakes but if he has to wait several months to get them then it was not worth it. To which Chris replied in a very typical and hostile Chris way.
Interesting to me because from what I gathered from the early part of this thread is that Chris had nothing further to do with TSE starting somewhere in October, and consequently just before all the problems started. Also, Chris had said that he and the guys just came back from a show? I take it he was referring to a December show maybe? This particular thread took place at around January 17th of this year. Maybe it was an early January show?
Of course, the last thing that Chris said on that thread was there would be no more discussion about the matter and any further discussion would be deleted, and that entire thread was in fact deleted. I feel that this was a very stupid move for them to do, as it only directed those searching for answers to the BOI. IF TSE had the sense to keep that thread up they would be able to at least contain the situation more than they could here. After all, that forum is not that popular to begin with, IMO. I wish I copied it all but how what I to know?
in early to mid January when I sent TSE an e-mail asking about my shipment. After I sent off my e-mail I decided to go over to the TSE forum to see if there was any message posted there about the delayed shipments, since I could not find anything on Fauna. I thought that Chris might had gone to do a show somewhere, or was on vacation while the weather cleared, or that maybe I was being centered out for some stupid reason (a completely different story and possibly a new BOI thread but it has nothing to do with Chris). When I did arrive at the TSE forum I did find a guy in Texas that was having the same problems I was having, sad because I was happy that I finally didn't feel so alone. Nicholas was there trying to keep the situation contained so it would not get too blown out of proportion. Nick told the guy that he has alerted Chris and that the guy would receive his shipment if he lives in an area that the weather is expectable to ship to. My impression of Nick at that time was that he was more than a monitor but a close friend of Chris. Chris did find his way to that thread and he did explain that he and his guys had just came back from a show. I thought that I was right all along and so I put aside what I felt were only paranoid thoughts - what a relief! Chris went on to say, what we have already heard and IMO nothing very remarkable either, that the weather where they are and the destination has to be expectable before they will ship out. I also remember another guy who posted on that thread that said he was considering making a purchase of some snakes but if he has to wait several months to get them then it was not worth it. To which Chris replied in a very typical and hostile Chris way.
Interesting to me because from what I gathered from the early part of this thread is that Chris had nothing further to do with TSE starting somewhere in October, and consequently just before all the problems started. Also, Chris had said that he and the guys just came back from a show? I take it he was referring to a December show maybe? This particular thread took place at around January 17th of this year. Maybe it was an early January show?
Of course, the last thing that Chris said on that thread was there would be no more discussion about the matter and any further discussion would be deleted, and that entire thread was in fact deleted. I feel that this was a very stupid move for them to do, as it only directed those searching for answers to the BOI. IF TSE had the sense to keep that thread up they would be able to at least contain the situation more than they could here. After all, that forum is not that popular to begin with, IMO. I wish I copied it all but how what I to know?
lucille said:
I notice there are quite a few suspended/fined folks on the good guy certification positive side. They can't change their vote, right?
Oh by the way, I think I'll end all my posts with the same question (maybe it should go in my sig line):
Chris, does TSE produce all BP morphs and hets in your facility as Glenn has told me?
dmasio
Member
Jon and I talked about this exact thread today. Jon those were some sweet pics brother and I can wait to get my female pastel from you that I had to wait an entire 3 days for LOL!!! Bob also dont let Mike brow beat you about the way you feel about Chris basically robbing you, I mean you dont know either of them from Joe Schmoe. Really look at it this way Mike if someone robbed you on the street and they were caught taken to trial and pleaded they were sick that they should get off you would be a little more than irate. Another thing Chris has had this excuse as I said in my post in the first few pages of this thread for over a year now, and BTW I did leave TSE a good feedback on here after recieving 2 healthy female albino "hets".
Damian Macioce
Damian Macioce
Paperkid
New member
I am interested in knowing if any of the shipments that are supposedly going out, 20 of them everyday 3 times a week at least - right?, are they snake shipments? I wonder who might be receiving their snakes and if they are reading this thread right now. I wish that at least a couple of them would speak up if they are reading this thread. Of course, more than fear of Chris retaliating on them, but feeling very proud to be placed at top of the list could keep them quite too.
The odd thing is that I have noticed at least two readers of this thread that have had close dealings with Chris and yet they have not come forward with any requested info on TSE or Chris. I also know of one guy in the business that might know exactly what is going on but I'm not contacting him. He sent me an e-mail last year saying that he was going to blackball me where no one would do any business with me. I wish I could post it here but it is unrelated. Not only that, if he is very close with Chris, which I very much suspect, he would be on the side of TSE. Also, he too has that very high "Good Guy" power and an attitude that is close to that of Chris, IMO.
In fact, other than to post show-off pictures of his gecko creations from the "he who must not be named" guy and Chris, I have not seen hardly anything posted by either one of them. Odd especially when considering that Chris use to be on here a bunch right up until last year, right about the time he started the forum on his website.
The odd thing is that I have noticed at least two readers of this thread that have had close dealings with Chris and yet they have not come forward with any requested info on TSE or Chris. I also know of one guy in the business that might know exactly what is going on but I'm not contacting him. He sent me an e-mail last year saying that he was going to blackball me where no one would do any business with me. I wish I could post it here but it is unrelated. Not only that, if he is very close with Chris, which I very much suspect, he would be on the side of TSE. Also, he too has that very high "Good Guy" power and an attitude that is close to that of Chris, IMO.
In fact, other than to post show-off pictures of his gecko creations from the "he who must not be named" guy and Chris, I have not seen hardly anything posted by either one of them. Odd especially when considering that Chris use to be on here a bunch right up until last year, right about the time he started the forum on his website.
Lets see...20 shipments a day (which I don't buy) and this thread has gone on for how long? Shouldn't they be caught up by now? Lets hear from Pat or Glenn here. Time to step up guys. Help save the business that you draw a paycheck from.
tejasranger
New member
jglass38 said:
Of course they do, I have it here in writing on my worthless TSE gaurantee
On another subject I just registered a complaint with NY State Consumer Protection Board from the link someone posted earlier. It was a piece of cake. Everyone that has a problem with TSE should take advantage of this website. Took me about 10 minutes including faxing the supporting documentation.
WOW, 613 posts and 33,909 views. Chris, you trying to set a record? Looks like this one is going to go down in history on Fauna's BOI.
Chris, you can make this all go away. Do the right thing. All it would take is for you to do the right thing. However, keep in mind. Shipping them sick snakes won't get it done.
Have you started with the refunds yet?
Chris, you can make this all go away. Do the right thing. All it would take is for you to do the right thing. However, keep in mind. Shipping them sick snakes won't get it done.
Have you started with the refunds yet?
tejasranger said:Of course they do, I have it here in writing on my worthless TSE gaurantee
On another subject I just registered a complaint with NY State Consumer Protection Board from the link someone posted earlier. It was a piece of cake. Everyone that has a problem with TSE should take advantage of this website. Took me about 10 minutes including faxing the supporting documentation.
That is outstanding!!
May I make a suggestion? Post the link again, and maybe with copy and pasting sort of walk everyone through the process. I really think if people see it, they will use it. What do you think?