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You got me on that one, but one things for certain, no matter which bunk he gets.....he's gonna be handling large snakes like he never has before.

I don't mean to make this thread a joke because I know how badly some of you got burned. My apologies if my posts have had that effect on you. I'm really sad that you guys and gals got taken and wish I had the kind of money on hand to cover your losses and dissapointment.
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Understood, Chuck. Sometimes we have to laugh to keep our sanity, you know....and I got a good chuckle from that one. ;)
 
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Cathy,i have emailed the info to detective Brown.I will pm you when he gets back to me.
 
Glad to hear you got the information sent off, Joe.....this could prove to be VERY important. It could also make things a lot tougher on Chris.

Thanks again for your help!!!!!!
 
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Cat_72 said:
Glad to hear you got the information sent off, Joe.....this could prove to be VERY important. It could also make things a lot tougher on Chris.

Thanks again for your help!!!!!!
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No problem Cathy.Even though i have no monetary interest in seeing Chris prosecuted.I do not like him scamming family members of mine.Yes i view everyone on the sites i frequent as reptile family members.I will keep in touch thru pms with info as it comes to me.
 
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I wanted to make a little comment here for everyone to read.I can not release the info i have concerning Chris at this time for obviouse reasons.I am not being rude by no means so i hope everyone understands.I will only pm Derek and Cathy and email detective Brown with info as i get it.If and when my info proves relavent for everyone to know about i will post it then and only then.Thanks
 
Ricky, I don't know if you've seen the previous posts from Zach and Allen, but they have both hatched clutches from TSE hets this season, and have come up with nothing but normals.......

I wish you luck with yours, friend.
 
This is my first time posting my loss on this site. i was taken for $2000 on 12/25/05 i placed an order for 1.1 100% Heterozygous Pieds and 1.1 100% Heterozygous High Contrast Albinos. after i sent the money all communication was was cut to almost nothing from that day forward. i posted a question on another msg board about the communication and i was sent a msg from Chris telling me i was juvenile and that it takes time to get things in order. i have sent the proper papers to Mr.Brown and i hope something comes out of all this. I'm normally a violent person but ill let the guy in prison take care of Chris for me since he lives so far away. I guess Chris and I both learned a good lesson. be careful who you deal with if you have bad intentions.
 
Yet another who has received from TSE...

Hey everyone,
I have received two het. albino female balls from Chris back in April of 2005. They were received in trade for a very nice colored pair of breeder bearded dragons and a full clutch of babies from the pair. I cannot claim to have lost any actual "cash" in my trade but still feel the anger in wondering if I am raising normals with the assumption they are true hets.
The beardies I traded were the "best in color" of all my hatchlings after four years of keeping my best, so there was a definite loss if I was screwed too. For what it's worth, keep in mind guys/gals, what comes around goes around. Sorry for all of you that lost out on dealing with this "great reputation" and I hope that some end up with what they paid/traded for.
P.S. I kept a copy of Chris's ad back in April "04" (with his prices, etc.) for my own records (my standard procedure). Don't know if it is of any use but it's here if needed.
Best wishes to all the good people in the hobby/business!
Glenn
 
Mike and Glenn, thank you for posting here. I'm truly sorry that you both got involved with TSE as well, and I'm sorry you are out the money/animals.

The more people that we have come forward and tell of their losses, the stronger case we all have against him.

Ricky, please keep us posted on the het breedings.......
 
Here are a couple more and I bet we haven't see half of those that Chris Scammed. There are so many in this hobby who don't visit reptile forums that may not know they were taken or who just chalked it up as being just another herper who got ripped off.
Randy
 
If you had a bad deal with TSE, please also use the trader ratings to reflect this. This will help insure that people see accurately what has happened if they simply look at his profile and is much easier then sorting through all the posts.

Right now he is the second highest rated trader on fauna. Only some of the original posters rated him at all for the screwings he received.

If you bought hets and are waiting to proove them out first fine, but for all those that didn't get what they paid for -- fire away by rating him.
 
Um.........can we change PAST trader ratings? I guess I gave him a positive rating on my initial purchase of "hets" from him.....I don't believe those are changeable. I'd gladly change or retract it if I could.
 
Cat, While I do agree that you have given him a Positive rating,as did so many others at the time, But at this point in the venture, some of those that gave Chris the thumbs up, Got out rightly "ROBBED" I have to agree with Alan, Chris's Trader rating should show that.I for one have never done business with Chris,But there are people who have done business with the phantom/ghost TSE that got taken...Let his record reflect that outside this thread.
 
I did go and give him a "negative" for the current transaction (if you can call it that). I thought I had already done so, but I hadn't. D'oh! 7 months have now gone by since I paid and have received nothing but a large headache. Some have been waiting much longer.

Good reminder, Alan.... if all of those who purchased and never received animals give him a negative, that ought to make a dent in that undeserved high rating he currently has.
 
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Good reminder, Alan.... if all of those who purchased and never received animals give him a negative, that ought to make a dent in that undeserved high rating he currently has.
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Excellent you finish what I was going to say before I hit submit. :rofl:
 
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