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janga2021 said:
wow Chris was right, you guys are paranoid, and vicious. I'm attaching a copy of my w-2. it should be obvious that i had nothing to do with his business. Ive Ben a member since 2003 and never sold, bought an animal nor made a post. Ive never e-mailed anyone in regards to the business. yea i saw his animals down stairs they were cool,i got to see all kinds of exotic animals. my favorite snakes are a spider snake the yellow ones, a green tree python, and an rosy boa as far as snakes go. i liked the fancy cams two. i don't see what it matters if i saw the animals or not. of course i did.
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The reason we asked is because, Chris said he was "breeding" snakes ...
And producing snakes that would produce expensive snakes.
Which wasn't true, the snakes he sold don't produce Albinos "yellow Snakes" ... instead they produce normal snakes.
 
Copenhagen Reptiles said:
Could anyone show me the pic of Chris ? I must have missed it somewhere in this thread.
22 days left of incubating 4 eggs hetpied x hetpied from TSE

38 days left of incubating 4 eggs hetalbino x hetalbino from TSE
Heres the hetalbino female that i purchased from Chris.

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Please keep us updated with the out-come.
 
KNOBTAIL said:
if Jenna is Jenna or Jenna is not Jenna, what does matter is the forward puruit of criminal charges against Chris.

If in fact she is whom she claims she is, their is always the possibility of being an accessory, but this is a bit premature and is the DAs call unless the the investigator has some evidence that we may have no knowledge of.

With that being the case, she is not leaving so quick, and we just have to maintain a level atmosphere here, and lets see what happens.

I guarantee you 100% if their is enough evidence against any co-conspirators, they will be indicted as well. If in fact she may have some culpability, as a single woman with a child, living alone, ...........its not something one would consider an envious situation to be in. But lets not use a "guilt by association" method. Its being handled by the authorities, and if their are any arrests to be made, I am sure if she is involved , she will be included.
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"If she weighs the same as a duck, then she's made of wood; and therefore............"
 
groovygeckos said:
Hi, Jenna :wavey: um...I mean chris...no wait, is it Pat, Steve, or Glenn??

Is this a scammer and a half? Or a multiple personality disorder? :rofl:

Sorry, guys. LOL
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It's "PAT" from SNL...j/k thats not very nice for me to say.I think the people that worked for there hard earned money,and didn't get anything from him would say worse though.And I really hope those Het's Prove out.!How can that Guy sleep at night,I can picture Naughty Nate and him now in the Big House :>poke2<:

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http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

Forever Trust In What You Are and Nothing Else Matters
 
VanZwedenReptiles said:
How can that Guy sleep at night
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If Jenna is really Jenna and if what Jenna states about Chris's medical condition is true....half the dudes life is pretty much already over. If he is already having heart complications that require stints that my grandmother is now receiving at age 90.....well his whole attitude on life might be a big "who cares".

If your not so sure that when you're going to bed that you'll be waking up again why would it really matter if you woke up next to some hard pumping thug smacking his wood off your forehead?

Not that I condone him enjoying a decent life with other peoples money before my pal the grim reaper comes a calling, but this could be exactly the situation he finds himself in.
 
If your not so sure that when you're going to bed that you'll be waking up again why would it really matter if you woke up next to some hard pumping thug smacking his wood off your forehead.
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I guess, but if I only had a few years to live I wouldn't want to spend them with Bubba. You're either honorable in life or you're not. Lack of character begins early if life not just when you find you have nothing to loose.
 
kmurphy said:
I guess, but if I only had a few years to live I wouldn't want to spend them with Bubba. You're either honorable in life or you're not. Lack of character begins early if life not just when you find you have nothing to loose.
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I’m in absolute agreement with what you said. But the problem is that sometimes we rejoice in degrading offenders to the lowest possible level. The thought is that after all they deserve it, and it makes us feel better to do so. What we fail to realize is that by doing so we actually set them free. They have no values or morals to live up to so they don’t care anymore; and there's no hardest contender than the one that has nothing to loose.

Regards
 
The BoidSmith said:
I’m in absolute agreement with what you said. But the problem is that sometimes we rejoice in degrading offenders to the lowest possible level. The thought is that after all they deserve it, and it makes us feel better to do so. What we fail to realize is that by doing so we actually set them free. They have no values or morals to live up to so they don’t care anymore; and there's no hardest contender than the one that has nothing to loose.

Regards
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There is a balance between.

I've posted here and on several other sites about annoying Jehovah's Witness coming to my door early in the morning to save my soul and the nasty battles I've had with them to leave me the hell alone. I don't want anyone at my front door bothering me that early.

Yesterday no less than 5 JW's made for my front door at 11am, leaflets in hand. They were late in the day for Jehovah's. I greeted them at the door with a smile and this time I just accepted the leaflet which turned out to be an invitation to attend a family picnic. They didn't try and talk to me about religion, which does not interest me, and nor did they try to convert me from catholicism, which typically is about their visits. I just thanked them for inviting me to the barbecue and they left. If they come back tomorrow morning and spoil my late sunday sleep-in to invite me again.....I feel so so sorry for them.

Balance.
 
Other side of the coin

OK ladies and gentlemen, I have read and participated in this thread, And we have seen facts and figures, Now what I want to know, is if there are no criminal charges brought against Chris for lack of paper work sent to Det Brown, Then it is my understanding No Criminal Charges = No Civil Charges either right ??? Like Laura had said in a previous post Those of us that contributed to the Legal fund should be up dated. I truly apologise But in my gut, I feel that this whole legal thing is going no where. And Chris is going to walk away from this whole thing, with nothing more then a 2000+ post on him and no legal action taken Criminal or Civil. And this really pisses me off.
 
Bill, I happen to agree with you!

I to have inquired into what has been happening on both fronts. Certainly by now an attorney should have been retained to handle the civil matter. Insofar as the criminal matter is concerned, I dont understand at this point why Chris has not been at least arrested, and charged with something
I know from my own experiences their may be delays in grand jury indictments, and making sure all the evidence if not most of it, is accounted for, but I would like to know if Det Brown is reading this, who is the assistant DA handling this case. Someone is giving the good detective a directive, and maybe some pressure has to be put on a higher level.

These criminal cases are not difficult to prosecute.
 
KNOBTAIL said:
I to have inquired into what has been happening on both fronts. Certainly by now an attorney should have been retained to handle the civil matter. Insofar as the criminal matter is concerned, I dont understand at this point why Chris has not been at least arrested, and charged with something
I know from my own experiences their may be delays in grand jury indictments, and making sure all the evidence if not most of it, is accounted for, but I would like to know if Det Brown is reading this, who is the assistant DA handling this case. Someone is giving the good detective a directive, and maybe some pressure has to be put on a higher level.

These criminal cases are not difficult to prosecute.
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Ive seen shop lifters get a speeder result....
 
Maybe this is just another “barometer” of the attention we get by the non-reptile enthusiast population. In fact (and starting by the legislature) we only make the news when something sensationalist happens. Not everyone seems to care when an individual steals or attempts to scam from reptile-loving citizens. Maybe they think we are all a bunch of weirdos. What kind of person pays in excess of $5,000 for a snake with gas prices at $3 a gallon, and people killing each other daily in the Middle East? But here we are every day (myself included) discussing about how Chris Johnson has shattered “our inner world”. Doesn’t anyone see anything wrong with this picture? Because I do.
 
Ghi Reptiles said:
Ok....so any update on this? Waaaaay too long to read through!
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Well from what i seen these should hatch out in a few more weeks to see if they were indeed hets" Copenhagen Reptiles "back a couple post.
.I really hope he gets some Morphs out of them,as far as criminal charges I'm not sure if the rest of the people totally followed though on this.I allmost bought a 0.2 hets Pieds from him last year,something told me they were to cheap so i didn't .I'm glad or i would be worried sick. :willy_nil

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http://www.vanzwedenreptiles.com/

Forever Trust in What You Are and Nothing Else Matters
 
Isn't it getting a bit late in the season here for babies to hatch? Sombody had to have eggs hatch by now...babies have been hatching for 3 1/2 months.
 
2 clutches have hatched. One was hetXhet, one was hetXvisual. Both resulted in all normal babies. Copenhagen Reptiles is waiting on a clutch to hatch soon. As far as I know, that is all that was big enough to produce this year, or that have posted here that they were expecting.
 
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