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NRBreptiles said:
Well I know people who have done alot of business with him perviously before all this happened. So until you prove them out, you cant say that.
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But have any of those people you referring to proven any hets from him? If not we can and will say that they are normals, like someone already stated we have people that have hatched out clutches that DID NOT prove to be hets.
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I was typing my reply when you posted that, can't type a reply and read at the same time.
 
Any new news?

I've kind of lost track of the events of this thread, and am wondering if there are any new developments?

I also noticed that "Jenna" had logged in last month (9/15/06 I think) although "she" hasn't posted since early August. Probably just catching up on her/his reading.... :rolleyes:
 
Well, unfortunately my visual albino boy won't be up to breeding size this season, but I have seen copulation between my "het" albino female from TSE and a KNOWN 100% het male several times over the last few days......any guesses on what kind of clutch she'll produce?
 
Cat_72 said:
Well, unfortunately my visual albino boy won't be up to breeding size this season, but I have seen copulation between my "het" albino female from TSE and a KNOWN 100% het male several times over the last few days......any guesses on what kind of clutch she'll produce?
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I think it's safe to say they will all be visually normal and genetically 50% possible hets. But there's always the chance that one of his crappy imports was incidentally het for albino. The gene does occur in the wild. :rolleyes:
 
Jim O said:
I think it's safe to say they will all be visually normal and genetically 50% possible hets. But there's always the chance that one of his crappy imports was incidentally het for albino. The gene does occur in the wild. :rolleyes:
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Those were my thoughts, 'cept you were sposed to tell me what pretty 50%ers they will be. :p
 
Any proven hets. at all yet???

I read this thread quite extensivly a couple months ago, though I don't recall any reports of proven hets. from Chris. Have there been any?
 
Not to this point, Glenn.

There have been 3 or 4 reported clutches with none of them producing visuals. One of those clutches came from a TSE het Albino bred to a visual Albino. It dont look good for folks who bought from him.
 
I had the same thoughts Glenn...but decided I'd rather give a little more ammo to the fight against Chris. Not that anyone has any real doubts, but it's just that much more physical proof that he's a scammer.
 
I have two "Het Albino" females in my posession now that will be breeding to my Visual male this season. I think we all know how that is going to turn out but I am hopeful.
 
There are three snakes that will never leave my facility. Two of them have been here from quite some time. One of the two I bought from Jerry Tubbs several years ago when he was still in business. Another one I obtained from a very unfavorable trade (for me) from "The Big Squeeze" (now also out of business). The third one is a black Sumatran blood that I bought from TSE (as we know also out of business). All three are here and will continue to be with me. They are a constant reminder of how careful one has to be...
 
Thanks for your replies everyone...

I would still like to prove the supposed het. female out but only have a het. male at this time. If I had a visual albino male to breed with her, I think it would be a little more of a sure thing she is or is not a het. I do plan on aquiring an albino male soon and will hold on to this female with hopes of determining her genetic status next season.
Thanks again!!!
Glenn
 
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