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    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

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    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Topshelf Exotic Forum- New look!

Chris, you've already proven this guy wrong many times now, why don't you be the bigger man and let this thing die. Obviously the more this guy writes the less sense he's making. But the name calling is really uncalled for. We know you're right, and we know he's wrong. This thread shouldn't go any further.
Take care,
 
Um... I appreciate the fact that Chris changed software. I got used to this vbulletin or whatever it is, and having to get used to the one his site USED to have was just too much for me! lol. (I don't do learning :raspberry )

...now, if I could just remember my password for the TSE forums :slamit:
 
lol :)

if you cannot figure it out use the password retrieval option or shoot me an email with a password you would like it changed too temporarily.
 
PaulSage said:
Um... I appreciate the fact that Chris changed software. I got used to this vbulletin or whatever it is, and having to get used to the one his site USED to have was just too much for me! lol. (I don't do learning :raspberry )

...now, if I could just remember my password for the TSE forums :slamit:
He changed it so you couldn't get in.....a wise move. :raspberry :hehe:
 
What is this nut jobs problem?

Spank that ass Chris!!!!
 
HA!
I figured out my password. I coulda swore it was BadBoaRules, but then I remembered that that's what my first tattoo is going to be. ...or was it the new personalized plates...
Crap, I'm lucky I can remember where I live. :rofl:
 
Got a reply to my message to Webslave.

"Re: Thought you should look at this

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Thanks for the concern, but yes, I had already seen that thread when it was started. I just read over the latest postings, and have to agree with Chris that there is no restriction on any other website using the same publicly available modifications for vBulletin that I am. From my own personal perspective, I have always felt that it was inappropriate for me to use "look and feel" mods from sites within the same industry, but that is simply my own choice from my own ethical leanings. I don't try to impose that upon other people, for obvious reasons.

If there is anything that I may disagree about, I guess it would be the actual display of the highest and lowest reputation and feedback used on the forums front page. That, as far as I know, is not a standard publicly available modification, as I had to spec that out specifically for my programmer to code into my own site. I can't say that I have any real legal proprietary right to that particular idea, however, but it WAS an original idea of mine. My programmer is one of the best out there for vBulletin, and he had to code it from scratch since there was no mod available to go from. I think he would have known of a public mod if there was one.

As for legalities, heck, legal issues are expensive to pursue. Even if it applied in a case like this, I guess I would hope people would just use common courtesy instead.

Just my opinions, of course.


Quote:
Originally Posted by badboa
Sorry I'm not very computer savy, but there is a post in the New Websites section pointing to a website at Topshelveexotics that I think you need to look at. It looks like a clone of this site and duplicates some of the looks and functions that this site has. Not sure if it is legal or not, but it sure would piss me off in your shoes. Can people just do something like that? I figure this guy Chris has been around here for a while, and it seems just unfriendly for someone to make a copycat site light that.

Sorry to bother you, but they are ripping me a new one in that thread over this, so maybe I just don't understand how this all works. "
 
Well i hate to diagree there but the listings code that was made from scratch, is actually readily available. in fact its only a few lines of code. it is actually 10 lines to be exact, listing any stats you would like with the correct indicators. posts counts, posts, rep points, anything with a $value. if you would like code to see for youself you may simply go into your style, plug it into your footer or header, and itll come right on up. If you want it drom me a pm Rich, since you believe it is some type of huge "from scratch" modification code. I would not want to infringe upon your feelings on this matter and if you beleive it to be propriatary its best exchanged privately. Your programmer may have looked at pre-packaged type mods, but possibly looked in the wrong place. Some modifications that simply add a few lines of code are listed right in discussion forums and such...... I was surprised how many modifications there really are for vbulletin.

Our programmer is also quite good, he has authored many distributed public mods and has done some really great work on other vbulletin sites. A bit tough to get in touch with at times but all in all we're happy. Next step is the graphic work. Obviously any vbulletin system if extreme "overhauls" are not completed with the genertic images used in vbulletin many of the forums look alike. same structure and feel. I'm hoping to "round or smooth" it up a bit more instead of all the darn boxes and sharp corners. It would be nice to look at a vbulletin system and not realise it is a vbulletin system. They even offer a special license to remove the copyright information so it is bare..... kinda odd but I guess it works for those tpyes of applications.
 
badboa said:
Got a reply to my message to Webslave.

"Re: Thought you should look at this

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for the concern, but yes, I had already seen that thread when it was started. I just read over the latest postings, and have to agree with Chris that there is no restriction on any other website using the same publicly available modifications for vBulletin that I am. From my own personal perspective, I have always felt that it was inappropriate for me to use "look and feel" mods from sites within the same industry, but that is simply my own choice from my own ethical leanings. I don't try to impose that upon other people, for obvious reasons.

If there is anything that I may disagree about, I guess it would be the actual display of the highest and lowest reputation and feedback used on the forums front page. That, as far as I know, is not a standard publicly available modification, as I had to spec that out specifically for my programmer to code into my own site. I can't say that I have any real legal proprietary right to that particular idea, however, but it WAS an original idea of mine. My programmer is one of the best out there for vBulletin, and he had to code it from scratch since there was no mod available to go from. I think he would have known of a public mod if there was one.

As for legalities, heck, legal issues are expensive to pursue. Even if it applied in a case like this, I guess I would hope people would just use common courtesy instead.

Just my opinions, of course.


Quote:
Originally Posted by badboa
Sorry I'm not very computer savy, but there is a post in the New Websites section pointing to a website at Topshelveexotics that I think you need to look at. It looks like a clone of this site and duplicates some of the looks and functions that this site has. Not sure if it is legal or not, but it sure would piss me off in your shoes. Can people just do something like that? I figure this guy Chris has been around here for a while, and it seems just unfriendly for someone to make a copycat site light that.

Sorry to bother you, but they are ripping me a new one in that thread over this, so maybe I just don't understand how this all works. "
Looks like narcing didn't work. I knew Rich had too much love for the herp community to worry about petty stuff like there being another board out there that is reptile based. More places to share knowledge=more knowledge for us all.......
 
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