To Brian
Quote from Brian:
(If he had posted his pics earlier on, it just would have made Aarons side of the story more believable.)
You are correct. I handled this issue wrong. I have never had to deal with a situation this crazy before. Again I was shocked, and everyone likes to say that they would have done this, and they would have done that cannot really say what they would have done because for they are not me, and they never have been put in this situation. Also you guys were tearing me apart at this point. Everything I tried to say in my defense was shot down. If you also remember I also maintained that I didn't ship him sick animals from the start. You guys would have had a field day with me if I claimed that I thought a switch was going on. I must say that I lack the experience in these kinds of matters, but that doesn't make my story any less true. Maybe some of you have had a lot of experiences like this, but this is my first and hopefully my last. Everything has gone smooth up until this point.
More from Brian
(The biggest problems I have with Aaron’s accusation that David came up with this scheme to rip him off is:
1. He only profited $175 dollars. His wife being a vet tech doesn’t support Aaron’s claim that David didn’t want to have to pay the vet bills to get them healthy. I'm sure David’s wife could do the fecal screen and get the meds to do so. The value of the possible to rehabilitate geckos, David sent back, should have also been subtracted from the $175, so it actually should be even less.)
The first thing I would like to say how do we know his wife is a vet tech again? What kind of vet tech does not know how to check for Coccidia using a direct smear, or a fecal flotation. The Oocysts of Coccicia are hard to see, but to someone who is a Vet Tech should be no problem at x400. Call your local Vet and ask. Again if you have ever smelled the fecal of the sick animal you can get a good idea where to look. The smell is fairly unique. Some one asked the question of how do a Direct Smear, and I will answer that question now. You take some fresh fecal and smear it on a slide. I like to put a few drops of distilled water of saline on the slide before I put the cover slip on. I like the saline better because it seems to make the protozoans move around more. You can also use stains like methylene, or iodine the help to see the parasites better. You then put the slide under the microscope, and take a look. If any of you want to know how to do a fecal floatation I will be more than happy to share that info.
I would be afraid to take an animal to a Vet that cannot find Coccidia with a simple smear, or fecal floatas. This is high school Bio stuff.
Question from Brian
(2.If it was David’s intention to keep his snakes and tort without them actually reaching Aaron, wouldn’t he have just sent his bowling ball for the round trip through shipping? The carrier wouldn’t have known or cared what was actually in the package. Everyone knows that shipping stresses animals. Even master schemers.)
This would be more of a question for David. I went threw hell to track down his box, and ended up going down to the main station in Rocklin to retrieve it. Because he stopped shipment I really thought he didn't want me to see what was in the box. If fact I made the people in the office watch me open it to verify its contents. I was a little blown away that there wasn't books or rocks in the box. I have no clue why he did what he did. Ask yourself this one question, if I was really trying to pull a fast one here, why didn't I claim at this point that the box was full of rocks or something?
Question from Brian:
(3.David had no clue that his pics wouldn’t have been argued by Aaron. David wouldn’t have so many people believing his side if Aaron had contested in the beginning that David’s pics were not the ones he sent. I could tell the difference with no problem. And I never saw any of them in person.)
The only thing I can say on this is that he jumped on the board really quickly. I was never given any chance to sift threw the evidence. In fact he posted here with his case before he mentioned his issues to me. By the time I was aware of what was going there were quite a few posts bashing me on this thread. The whole issue was already way out of control before I knew what hit me. Don't you think that he would have given me a chance to deal with the problem if I really shipped him sick animals? I really do not think 2 hours is enough time to sort threw the evidence. Also you may notice that he posted some emails from me on this thread, and at the end of each one I stated that I was more than willing to address his issues, and if he really wanted to trade back I had no problem with that. Again I also wanted to maintain that from my first post I have always stated that I didn't ship sick animals. Another thing that was in his favor is the fact that with this message board he who posts first usually wins the crowd. I have noticed from past posts that one guy will say something bad about another guy, and a bunch of people will jump on the bandwagon really quickly without any real facts. I have seen this pattern over and over. I just wonder I if I would have posted first where we would be now. I have seen guys with good standing be put threw the works on this site, by guys that nobody has ever heard of. Once the wheels start turning, it can take the guy everyone already knows quite a while to clear his name.
This issue will be over on Tuesday, and hopefully this soap opera. I feel at this point this thing is going on for more the entertainment value than anything. I also feel that people are getting tired of hearing about this. I personally have spent a lot of time on this, and I have done nothing wrong. There are some of you that think that I am full of it, and I really do not think there is much I can say or do to change that. You refuse to check my references to find out what kind of person I am. I don't just make up stories, and I do not ship sick animals. There are also some of you who do not know what to think. I would say to you thanks for remaining objective. I would also say take me up on my offer to provide the names of people who have dealt with me, and they will tell you who I am. These are people you probably already know. Last there are those of you who have followed the evidence I have presented, and think there is some merit to my side of this issue. I would say to you, thanks for not believing the first wave of accusations. I really need to get back to my life, and my herps. This is not because I do not want to answer questions anymore, or because I am guilty of any wrong doing, but because I feel we are beating a dead horse in the ground. Some of you will take this me trying to avoid the issues, and will present it as such. Some of you will be grateful that someone is putting an end to this. Whatever you think or say I am fine with that. The only ones who truly know what really happened are David, and myself. The fact of the matter is we have both presented evidence saying the other is wrong, and you either believe what I am saying or not. I will not be posting until Tuesday because I have a life to get back to. I probably will not even read this thread until Tuesday because it really messes up my day. I have a family, and over 300 lizards to take care of. Let the cards fall, as they will. Again I have no problem with you checking with the people I supply, and the people who I have had business in the past. You can email me for a list @
[email protected] If I were guys I would ask for references of reputable people before doing any kind of business on the net.
To Mr. Radin
Everything is not a plot to overthrow the government, and little green men are not sending you messages threw a microchip they put in your head. You have been on this kick from the start. I have to wonder how many times in the past you have jumped on the bandwagon in the past only to find out that you were way off? I guess there is nothing on T.V. that you like.
