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Info TRUTHS ABOUT THE HIDDEN GENE WOMA THAT ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT OF KEVIN MCCURELY(NERD)

Steve Kind did own this animal and I was told the very same information that Joe was regarding the Woma in question. I was very skeptical that it was a HGW considering my own Woma looks very similar. Back in 2010 I sent the pic of this animal to Matt Lerer and a few others for feedback and I was told it was not a HGW back then and comparing the HGW combos to Woma combos there is no comparison.



This statement settle's this up... Joe got taken for a sucker and now he's trying to take others for a sucker just aint happening.... I am sorry to hear you taken for a sucker though Joe...:rofl::rofl:
 
My oh my, are you kidding me. even more misinformation by you. K. Matthews

Are you serious?

What misinformation

Steve Kind sold Joe his animal, Steve Kind is NOT the founder of HGW's...he did NOT have a HGW...Joe is trying to claim it was a HGW 3 YEARS before Kevin even proved out HIS REAL HGW...this animal DOES NOT make hidden gene woma combos...the animal in question was sold as a NORMAL woma back in 2003, which is exactly what it is....there is NO question in 99% of peoples mind that the animal in question is a NORMAL woma
 
Are you serious?

What misinformation

Steve Kind sold Joe his animal, Steve Kind is NOT the founder of HGW's...he did NOT have a HGW...Joe is trying to claim it was a HGW 3 YEARS before Kevin even proved out HIS REAL HGW...this animal DOES NOT make hidden gene woma combos...the animal in question was sold as a NORMAL woma back in 2003, which is exactly what it is....there is NO question in 99% of peoples mind that the animal in question is a NORMAL woma

:iagree:

This thread is :notallthe
 
IMO this thread should be locked. there is no more to be said and joe has nothing and never will.

Well that brings BRAND NEW LIGHT to this situation....

So Joe...you DID NOT buy that animal from Kevin as a hidden gene woma, you bought it from Steve Kind...at this point...it really doesn't matter if Steve Kind told you it was a HGW, it has been proven by many people that it simply is NOT.

Sounds like you got had = / and your still falling for it


This thread is :notallthe


I don't think this thread is over, it is like one of those old murder mysteries on tv, the background music unexpectedly goes 'dun-dundun-DUNNNNNN' and all of a sudden, you find out the butler did it.
Who knows what else will come of it....
 
Exactly Lucille. :rofl:

Sounds like Joe got taken somewhere down the line. I hate it for him, but there is no need to drag Kevin around because of it.

What a mess.
 
Exactly Lucille. :rofl:

Sounds like Joe got taken somewhere down the line. I hate it for him, but there is no need to drag Kevin around because of it.

What a mess.

I would feel bad for Joe if he actually felt he had gotten taken. Unfortunately...he is going to continue to fight his fight so he can do the same thing to others that happened to him.

He still believes his animal is a HGW, when it is in fact a a normal woma. It was originally sold as a normal woma to Steve Kind, it did not magically change genetics in his possession. I don't care how pretty anyone things its offspring are, they are normal woma crosses.

Joe is going to continue trying to sell his animals misrepresented from what they really are...even tho multiple breeders who work with REAL HGW's have proven otherwise with pics of their crosses, that look nothing like Joe's. Joe's crosses look just like normal woma crosses, and Joe is in denial.

I have no sympathy.
 
Trust me, don't mistake that for sympathy. Sarcasm does not come across well in text.

:rofl: you are correct there.

So yes...this is all a joke....Joe is attacking Kevin, when he didn't even get this animal from Kevin. I'm unaware if he has ever even done business with Kevin AT ALL.

I'm assuming Steve Kind isn't going to chime in? I know he is aware of this thread, I guess he would have said something by now if he cared enough. I'd be interested in know how that animal magically changed genetics in his possession, especially since the crosses look nothing like HGW crosses.
 
Trust me, don't mistake that for sympathy. Sarcasm does not come across well in text.
There is a perfect quote about sympathy in the movie Major Payne which would be perfect here, but I can't write it or I'd be out of the picture for some time....
 
There is a perfect quote about sympathy in the movie Major Payne which would be perfect here, but I can't write it or I'd be out of the picture for some time....

I know exactly the one you speak of. :yesnod:


I agree Willow. Maybe I can find some of that gene changing magic somewhere.:rofl:

Since the animal did not even come from Kevin, I don't get it. Should the rage not be directed at Steve Kind?
 
The animal did originally come from Kevin, as a NORMAL woma to Steve Kind

I'm going to assume for now that Steve Kind will stand behind everything Joe has said, otherwise I'm sure he would have said something by now. People can decide who to be angry with I guess= /
 
The animal did originally come from Kevin, as a NORMAL woma to Steve Kind

I'm going to assume for now that Steve Kind will stand behind everything Joe has said, otherwise I'm sure he would have said something by now. People can decide who to be angry with I guess= /

Sorry, I meant did not come directly from Kevin as a HGW.

I hate there is no editing, my brain goes faster than my fingers.
 
:iagree:

This thread is :notallthe
:iagree:

There is a perfect quote about sympathy in the movie Major Payne which would be perfect here, but I can't write it or I'd be out of the picture for some time....

I know the quote you speak of. :rofl:

This is quite a train wreck of a thread. Magic genetics... delusional posters...
 
Here is an email Kevin sent to us Denying he had lunch with Steve. Give it up everybody. Now Kevin wants to admit it? I tried to do this outside of the BOI. As I said I have nothing to prove to anyone. We aren't asking for anyone's approval including Kevin. LOL This animal is the Original Hidden Gene Woma.

Kevin McCurley
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To Joe Capone
I had lunch with someone?????? about this?


WHAT???????


Yes, twit.


Can you speak english JOE?????
On May 27, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Joe Capone wrote:

You released this animal to scales and tails and it was bought in 09 directly from them. You had lunch with someone regarding this animal already and its offspring. You really must have a poor memory and your calling me a twit?




Everything we sell comes completely guaranteed to be what it is. I disclose everything in writing on the invoice signed by myself of Clark, so the customer is protected and has recourse. Unlike others I have to say on their outrageous claims.

I back everything up and don't leave people hanging period as the consumer always comes 1st with Clark and myself. We give full disclosure on the invoice period.

Joe Capone PHR

Joe. You keep reposting thos pictures. Why?
Is it supposed to convince us that both animals have the same morph genes?
Because the more you post it, the more I see that they are NOT the same.
Joe, do you know the difference between white and yellow?
Kevin's animal has white and your has yellow.

Kevin sold it as a woma. The buyer is the one who added the words "hidden gene". The buyer sold it to you. And now you are convinced it is 'hidden gene"

There are differences in the babies. True it makes some nice babies. But they are totally different from NERD's Hidden gene animals.

You may have convinced yourself it is hidden gene. The guy you bought it from convinced himself it was hidden gene even though he was told it was a normal woma.

Gimeneez. Maybe I should convince myself that the normals I have are really "hidden bananas"
 
My oh my, are you kidding me. even more misinformation by you. K. Matthews



The only people that are "misinforming" people are Joe Capone and anyone and I do mean ANYONE that can't tell the difference inbetween the HGW ( Kevin's ) and the normal WOMA ( Joe's ) the snake in question Joe claims was released to Joe by Kevin... Joe doesn't state he got it third hand until after that light is shown to us... The person who sold/traded it to Joe took Joe for a sucker... and probably for good reason... :rofl: Now Joe who got taken for a sucker clearly admit's that this whole thread is because of a PERSONAL disagreement with KEVIN and in all honesty it really has NOTHING TO WITH KEVIN NOR NERD Joe should have posted a bad guy thread on the guy that took him for a sucker... Sorta like the sucker who paid 17.5k for an animal worth a fraction of that. At the end of the day Joe Capone @ PHR is nothing more than a drama queen who has to be in the spot light... and personal anyone who believes a word that comes out of his or Clark Tuckers mouth need to seek professional mental help, For those of us with any bit of intelligence have seen what this thread is truly about and it has nothing to do with Nerd nor Kevin!!! Joe received an animal by a third party WHO apparently misinformed him on the genetics or completely lied just to make a sale the way Joe Capone does...
 
Joe. You keep reposting thos pictures. Why?
Is it supposed to convince us that both animals have the same morph genes?
Because the more you post it, the more I see that they are NOT the same.
Joe, do you know the difference between white and yellow?
Kevin's animal has white and your has yellow.

Kevin sold it as a woma. The buyer is the one who added the words "hidden gene". The buyer sold it to you. And now you are convinced it is 'hidden gene"

There are differences in the babies. True it makes some nice babies. But they are totally different from NERD's Hidden gene animals.

You may have convinced yourself it is hidden gene. The guy you bought it from convinced himself it was hidden gene even though he was told it was a normal woma.

Gimeneez. Maybe I should convince myself that the normals I have are really "hidden bananas"

People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one and if a lie is repeated enough it is believed by some.
 
I'd be interested in finding out if someone did indeed pay 17.5k for an animal or they are just saying that someone did to try and entice other buyers. I would think by now that whoever bought it would have forward in defense by now with their reasoning? Just a thought. Someone really could have bought it, I just think it strange that they avoided this whole thread?
 
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