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Info TRUTHS ABOUT THE HIDDEN GENE WOMA THAT ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT OF KEVIN MCCURELY(NERD)

Willow said:
I have no idea whats going on either

but just by the pics....those don't look like hidden gene womas, or hidden gene woma combos to me.

The first time I saw those animals posted in the classifieds I thought that to myself.

Other then that, I'm kinda lost myself.
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As am I they are HG woma's they aren't hidden gene woma's he's lying no he's lying he mixed them up with another morph... after reading a bit on the Op and the company he represents this isn't his first go around with " his whatever morph isn't what he said it is mine are the real deal " in the end IMO anyway and yes I know it isn't worth much this simply seems to be a way to advertise his animals while bashing another breeder at the same time.
I do find it funny that the pic you use is one where the HGW as you put it is in shed... that doesn't make much sense at all...



SPJ said:
I've got to say, I am not a fan of Joe but with all of the lies that are starting to surface (candy, desert females, etc) where large breeders basically screwed over buyers by holding back info, I am going to sit back and watch this play out before I pas judgement on Joe's post.
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I must say that I do agree with this post as well as there has been alot of lie's passed down or rumored with certain gene's and genetics that are in the process of and or have been dis-proven.

LET'S SEE THE EMAILS!!!
 
I could have sworn I saw the ad for these with the title New Line of HGW a day or two ago. If my memory is correct, why was the ad title changed?

Dave
 
Snake-Queen said:
I find it very telling that the OP has been viewing the thread, but choses to ignore the questions posed to him.
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Maybe it's for a good reason... and for the best in his case anyway :shrug01:

I don't want to be :shootfoot but he did state within this thread that he did have the EMAILS from Kevin where Kevin admitted this somewhere IMO for the little that it is worth If I had that kind of proof well posting the EMAILS would have been better than posting a bunch of pics and copying and pasting info from the world of ball pythons morph list and then to dis-credit the information.
Like I said that's just my few cents for what their worth.

Personally If I was Kevin I wouldn't even humor this thread with a response although Fb on the other hand well quite a few find this humorous maybe it's a new sales pitch to get it out there that he has the Hidden gene woma combo's now as well... Being Kevin has a corner on that as of now using Kevin's name was simply the best way to get it out there for him.. :shrug01::shrug01:

First Amir now Kevin... I'm going to act like Goldberg and ask WHO'S NEXT??
 
Hi Steve (AKA SPJ),
I'm still new to the BP industry, so forgive me! But you mentioned the lies about the Candy, Desert females, etc.... can you please inform me about those because I haven't heard? You can email me at: [email protected]
I appreciate your information!
Thank you,
John
 
Have you made Soulsuckers? And if you have did you use "normal" Lesser or Butter or Kevin's Line Lesser?
If the answer is yes to "Normal Lesser or Butter" Do you have pictures for us?
 
Regular Womas all day long. The original looks nothing like a HGW, but looks exactly like a Woma. The combos also look like Woma crosses I've seen and/or expected them to look like. Joe, if you wanted to make more money, you could have just not crashed the market with Morph King and done things right.
 
Yep, it is on Kevin's Reptile group page. I would not hold it against him if he didn't respond here. It seems he is well aware this guy is acting crazy.
 
He should still address the issue that you do not need the NERD line HG woma to make a soulsucker.
 
At best, these guys have no idea what they are talking about.

This animal that Powerhouse posted a picture of is a "regular" woma pastel. It is not a hidden gene woma combo.

Joe at PHR said:
Pastel Hidden Gene Woma
PastelHGW2.jpg


Joe Capone at Power House Reptiles
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Here's a pic of one that I have. This animal is two years old and about to shed but it is clearly the same thing:

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Just to show another example of Powerhouse incorrectly identifying an animal, here are some pics of one of their older ads where they tried to sell a mojave spider as a bumblebee mojave:

mojave_spider-1.jpg

mojave_spider2.jpg


This was discussed elsewhere at the time, but I still had the pics saved online.
 
jluman said:
At best, these guys have no idea what they are talking about.

This animal that Powerhouse posted a picture of is a "regular" woma pastel. It is not a hidden gene woma combo.



Here's a pic of one that I have. This animal is two years old and about to shed but it is clearly the same thing:

DSC_0022.jpg


Just to show another example of Powerhouse incorrectly identifying an animal, here are some pics of one of their older ads where they tried to sell a mojave spider as a bumblebee mojave:

mojave_spider-1.jpg

mojave_spider2.jpg


This was discussed elsewhere at the time, but I still had the pics saved online.
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Thiis is the only post I am making until Kevin comes but he won't because everything is true in y post as Kevin Knows this. Here is his hidden Gene Woma Enchi. He has the Hidden Gene Woma right from his original but isn't an Enchi. It's a Lemon Pastel cross to an Original Hidden Gene Woma as you all can see.
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i think the fact that this post came from joe capone gives it obviously not the best start, but id still like to hear a bit about this.

not long ago kevin posted the video about soulsuckers saying that u need his hg lessers to make soulsuckers. in that video everybody with a little grisp on genetics knew that he had no clue what he was talkin about. sounds harsh but lets face it- that video was full of genetical inaccuracies and it appered as kevin didnt even understood that basics (for example that u only can have 2 same allels on one lucus).


if i read this long wided post correct, joe is saying that the infernos and all other combos listed as hg woma granite bla bla bla actually are just hg woma crosses- without the granite.


i certainly remember to have read something or seen something directly from kevin where he says when hg woma and granite mix, they become unseperatable- that they basically become a new gene.


as far as i understood joes breeding results prove exactly that- that u cant get granites from granite hg woma combos.


whether or not this is true (i honestly havent ever seen 2 different genes become a new one), i still think we shouldnt bash him, but rather get down to the truth.


after the lesser hg thing, the banana thing, the toffee thing, the desert thing etc etc i think we can only profit from discussing it.


if its true that infernos etc carry the granite gene it should be easy for kevin to come by and post some pics after hunderts of clutches containing hg woma granite combos- wouldnt it?
 
How do you know it's not an Enchi? It's got green eyes which Enchi's have, it's got enough banding, it's got the head fading, the color, etc. They did use to call Enchi's "Enchi Pastels", because Enchi's are a color enhancer. You say "oh it's not an Enchi, it's a Lemon Pastel!", without any evidence of such. You don't tell us why, you just expect us to take your word for it.

What evidence do you
 
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